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In other words the power test is worthless as the 9800GTX was underused and got the lower power numbers.

Suggesting a 350watt PSU for the 9800GTX is border line liable.

Newegg has the EVGA 9800GTX requirements as 450watts.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 9&ref=lmcd

"The end result is that Nvidia has taken care of business with this GeForce 9800 GTX. It delivers very good performance, better than the 8800 GTX' (by an average of 7%) and close to the 8800 Ultra (especially without antialiasing). The performance is also good enough to put the 8800 GTS 512 MB out of the running, with a little surprise:"

SAY WHAT??? Puts 8800GTS out of the running?? Its like 3-5 FPS FASTER!?!?!?!?!?!?!? What are you STUPID? Man I hope this guy doesnt actually believe this. Shoot the 8800GT/GTS looks to be the card(s) to get the other higher models look PATHETIC. NO WAY WOULD I PAY TOP Dollar for 4 BIG FPS no, it should be like 30-40 FPS+....

Because it sucks? Its way to pricey for what you get?

A better one will come out for the same or less money???

hmmm... still not impressive enough to replace my 7900 GT. Just checked the dell website, but didn't see an option for the 9800gtx. it was just the 8800 ultras for + $1300

its not nvidia's fault people started all the hype. they expected it to blow everything out of the water.

its not the best card, but its cheaper than the old cards, and supports tri-sli

I really don't understand why they put only 512mb on the last 2 generations anyway. For all those Nvidia fanboys let this be a lesson, if you keep wishing for ATI to get dominated expect more of this crap. This is what happens when there is no real competition. All that being said, it's a decent card especially since the 8800 Ultra is no where to be found and about twice the price. It might not be bad to wait and pick up the G92 8800GTS at a discount.

THIS IS WHY I KNOW THIS REVIEW IS CRAP

in the gx2 review the 3870 x2 got a 27 at 1920x1200
but in the gtx review the 3870 x2 got a 23.1 at 1680x1050

how does that make any sense
IT DOESNT
unless the pc they were using had a bottleneck somewhere other than the graphics

I was hoping to upgrade from my 7800GTX to the next dimension but I am not really beng motivated by this review.

I am so happy I picked up an 8800 GTS (G92) with a free game and a low price recently. The high 9's are obviously placeholders.

I held on to my magnificent 7950GT for as long as I could, but games with steep shader requirements demand an 8-series.

I game at 1600x1200, and only now with the 8800 GTS do all my games run as I expect them: high FPS and high IQ (image quality)...to me this is the golden age of PC gaming...all of my titles run as fast as I need them to run.

As most of you have alreay said, this card appears to be little more than a rip off. Yes, it is faster than the 8800GT and GTS, but not by much. Definitely not enough of a boost in performance to call it the next generation.

Unless you absolutely have to have the top of the line, I see no reason for spending the extra cash on this card. A pair of 8800Gt's or GTS' in SLI will do a great job on most games, even at high resolutions.

If you really want the top of the line, it seems to me that the 8800GTX would be a much better choice. The performance is there as well as the extra memory that is needed when playing games at ultra-high resolutions.

To boot, the 8800GTX can now be had for $300 or so.

So shame on Nvidia for trying to dupe its customers. You would think that they had heard of Tom's websites and would know their new products would be shown for what they really are. Expensive hype.

Ah man, that is hilarious.

What better new cards will be out in a couple of months?

I've got nothing in my NDA pike for a release in 2 months -- can you provide more details?

The entire 9800 series (GX2 and GTX) does indeed seem to be more of an April fools joke considering how bad it's AA/AF performance is. I'm honestly baffled at why nVidia are doing this? Who's gonna buy these cards? Do people really run at lower resolutions with no AA?? And what happened to DX10.1 certification?

Just more evidence of the prison nVidia live in.

I'll just take a magic marker and cross out 8800GTS and write 9800GTX on my GTS 512!!

No, the 9800GTS is already coming out aswell. God only knows how that'll perform.

Awww...dammit. I've been waiting for this card for my new pc and now I have no idea what to get so I can game at 1900*1200.
Meh....8800GTS SLI here I come.

Look on the good side - at least there's little real incentive to spend huge sums of cash on a gfx card - just get a 8800GT and enjoy a similar experience to the top end cards.

I want One!!!!!!!!

OK, and what's that? That it makes more sense to sell a more expensive die for the same amount of money than a cheaper die for the same amount/more money? Yeah brilliant, no point in a process shrink to save production cost, and why bother moving people from their GF8800Ultras when they can keep those like 'Classic CARdS'. Sure no reason to make a compeling (not ho-hum) refresh there.

Not releasing a card makes more sense than releasing the GF9800GTX, especially as a GF9800GTX.

Yeah who needs to increase profits prior to a recession, brilliant strategy, bring out the new $600 refresh just in time for unemployment later next half instead of while people still have a job, dispossable income and can justify fun purchases. Perfect market strategy.

Or suck like their refresh after the GF4 did, which was also a slight refresh of the GF3.
Really, less than a year and a half in the driver seat and people seem to forget the ebb and flow of this market.

Which still doesn't explain the GF9800GTX other than from a marketing point of view which still makes no sense for what you said, but all the sense in the world for the reasons that a GF8600GT would outsell a GF7900GTX for the same price which have nothing to do with your stated arguments. If nVidia were thinking the way you were they wouldn't have released anything, not released the G92GTX.

Yeah, blame AMD for nVidia putting a big whale tail spoiler on the back of their GF8800GTS and calling it the GF9800GTX, it's all AMD's fault.
Yeah, and S3 made them tweak the paintjob too, cause racing stripes make it go faster.

There you go;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] rchInDesc=

Ready and waiting for you.

For new builds it's a good card that'll give you time to up later this year with hopefully better performing cards.

But what disappoinment. Price point is a little high and with more ram it could have been a contender!