Last message on previous page: His numbers may be off, but I think it is a small percentage that doesn't really affect their bottom line. I could be wrong though. They do really benefit form the free advertising. It would be a mistake for them to stop OCing.
On the other hand, if AMD doesn't come up with something soon, Intel may not need the free advertising.
Message edited by Zorg on 05-29-2008 at 06:48:47 PM
From what I understand, the Nehelam that ocs will have a seperate NB, and all the things that make it more expensive to make, whereas the cheaper non oc version will have the NB on chip, less power hungry and easier/cheaper to make, tho leaving ocing unavailable. This is right , right?
I heard that somewhere, but who knows. I haven't really dug very much to try and find out. FUD is talking about the Lynnfield and Havendale which have IMCs. Apparently, to pull this off they would need the IMC. I guess we will find out soon enough.
Message edited by Zorg on 05-29-2008 at 06:54:08 PM
I'd say your error in estimate is about 20 fold. I'd say at least 50% of enthusiasts overclock their home machines. And I'd say at least 0.5% of other home users do it too.
That would be about 0.5% or one in every 200 Intel computer users (rough estimate).
I would seriously, seriously, seriously doubt that.
There was a poll done about it here (which is an enthusiast site) and the numbers were very low. If anyone can find it, please link it.
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I'm an enthusiast and I've overclocked just about every Intel home build(9of11) for my friends in the last 2 years and none of them are enthusiasts. One was a typewriter/web browser mATX build (so no point) and the other one's owner still thinks overclocking is done by moving jumpers and that AMD processors overheat.
I've 3 brothers that work in the computer industry, one, I would safely call an enthusiast. Never had to overclock a computer in his life. I frequent this website, and would think I'm pretty up to date on future hardware directions - does that make me an enthusiast? If I'm not, that figure of 1% for enthusiasts will be dropping alot further.
Between me and my brothers, we've 11 PCs/laptops that are used for various things at the moment (there are more than a few dead ones kicking about as well), not one overclocked. They've no need to, and stability is far more important for me.
Message edited by Amiga500 on 05-29-2008 at 09:36:45 PM
Overclock doesn't necessarily mean balls to the wall you know. I have a Q6600 OCed to 3G, with no voltage increase. That's a 25% OC and it is stable stable stable. I also built two others one OCed to 3G totally stable and one left at 2.4G that had BIOS related problems. So you know not of what you speak. You don't have to OC to be an enthusiast, but how enthusiastic are you if you won't dabble?
@Amiga500
Forum polls don't matter, I know I couldn't be bothered to vote in it. I've overclocked every machine I had since my 100MHz 486DX4 in highschool.
I have my Q6600 OCed to 3.0GHz as well. It's even under volted. It's rock solid. In fact I don't think it ever crashed on me once it was stable. It's a workhorse (extra contracts/programmer & logic designer) build and I haven't played a game on it in a month at least. VHDL compiling times are greatly reduced. It runs under 40°C idle and 55°C load.
Like I said. 9 out of 11 Intel builds I did for my friends over the last two years (since Core 2) are overclocked. None of them failed yet.
There were some 50%+ overclocks(E6300 @ 3.1GHz) I did as well but I never went out of spec on any of the builds.
I have a friend at work who overclocked his network router ... and added some active cooling. He's handy with a soldering iron...
There's nothing extreme about overclocking now. It's just flipping a value in BIOS. That said ... jumpers were more fun.
Pentium 225MHz MMX !!! FTW 10 years old, 3 of those overclocked and still working.
The two OCed systems are under volted as well. Oddly enough, I wasn't able to get much of an under volt on the 2.4G system, go figure, it did have the highest VID though.
Message edited by Zorg on 05-30-2008 at 02:06:38 AM
She got banned for comments on the "other"? That simply isn't possible. Has anyone read the WingDing's Mrs Phillips Chronicles Sticky? The omitted link is not an accident, find it for yourself. A good read I might add, if you have the stomach for it. I've got to be honest, it's pretty sick.
Is this really a back door attempt to censor the other? Do we have a conspiracy on our hands?
That said, I have seen her posts for long enough to know that the poster was not her. She has always posted clean posts. I guess she learned not to save her login.
It's clearly her brother, stop the insanity. Make sure she has a new password and doesn't save it.
They've failed anyway. They rushed into action on an "other" section thread, but they let anyone post "junk" in the hardware section. There's a fitting "razor" quote in this somewhere but I couldn't be bothered to look it up.
Anyone can get hacked. So if someone hacks THG and posts "The Simpsons movie in 2D" bunny getting mashed up buy ThongZillaTM we'll just have to take the MODS word it's was a hack. Would you give them a second chance?
Message edited by Andrius on 06-01-2008 at 01:00:57 AM
