Last message on previous page: For a 'higher' overclock, take the PCIE frequency in BIOS from 100 to 110. See if you can get to 3.5 GHz. with that adjustment. If the 110 setting is 'stable' with a higher system BUS, try 115. I'm assumimg you have it locked down a 100. Be careful, your RAM is going to go kaput at 2.4v.
You can try moving the PCIE frequency in BIOS from 100 to 110-115. It may make no difference at all, but then again depends on the chipset and how it reacts. Maybe it'll make your 512 run better! 8) So if you loosen the timings the RAM you have should go close to 1066Mhz. or so. I thnk your 750i chipset is a little out of sink with all this adjustment, LOL.
So with the adjustment to 110 can you raise the FSB higher and with any better stability? At some point, you will crash while raising it to a higher value. My guess would be 118-119. Raising it off 100 may allow a higher FSB with stability hopefully.
Message edited by badge on 07-25-2008 at 10:15:52 AM
Tonight I am swapping out an office computer. The girls in the office use it a lot to schedule appointments, create new and use current office forms, Print out, just general office stuff like surf the web all day and do no work. A little Spider solitaire. Check their Hotmail. That sort of stuff. You know really important work stuff.
I haven't messed with it in a while, but the computer is a Pentium 4 2.53 GHz., 533 MHz FSB CPU on an ECS MB, don't know the chipset right off hand and I just unplugged it. A gig of Kingston Value PC2100 to hold it up. The files have been accumilating since '02 I believe, 6 years worth. It's never crashed and I have not reloaded in 6 years. I installed a second 120MB WD IDE drive as a slave and between the master and slave the office is a 'hive' of twisted documents and information. Each document more important than the other. I have backed up both systems. The old Pentium 4 2.53 and also the 'new' AMD 64 socket 754 3700+ with Acronis True Image plus DVD copies of like 10 million very unarchived no less 'hived' important files. I have ran across the room several dozen times remembering stuff like, 'I thought I already copied and installed that file? Won't hurt to install it again."
Anyway, I may take the 'new' AMD 64 3700+ and swap it to an Antec 300 case. My wife wants to see if the case it is in now matches the new HP MFC I am going to hook to it. Matching components. Like I haven't washed my car in three years, who cares! Wish me luck. There will be questions when I fire this thing up at the front desk. Like where is the 'start' button.
Message edited by badge on 07-25-2008 at 07:32:28 PM
So you are using 2 x 2GB Corsair PC26400 4 CAS and not the ADATA listed in your config? Well, like you mentioned, when your are ramping up your system BUS and hit a wall you suspect your RAM. PC26400 top speed capable varys pretty widely. The best out there reach near PC28500, 1066 MHz. More likely your gonna get 900MHz or slightly better out of PC26400 stable. Anyway, I was just thinking some other RAM with a better rated top end speedwise might allow your FSB to be set higher without crashing (less stress). Like get the RAM data transfer speed (the inner working if the RAM) cranked up to 1066MHz. Forget downclocking the RAM's data transfer rate and having a matching ratio with the overclocked FSB. I think it just depends on your chipset which method would produce the higher, more stable OC. Anyway, I use 8 gigs of these Japanese 'Powerchip' DIMMS. 8 gigs work great on an x38 set at 1066MHz. with a 333MHz. FSB. Great temps, totally stable and a fast Quad 2.6GHz. Fast and stable with a high enough top end to make a difference as you clock your BUS beyond the processors default of 233MHz. Anyway...these 'Powerchip PC28000 DIMMs clock higher than PC26400 and are stable in doing so.
I need to make this list anyway, so here is a list of all my systems. We'll get back to your experiment in a minute .
Pentium 1 133 Mhz. Bad azz 1/10 GHz. machine in it's day.
64 MB of RAM
1 GB HD Matrox 16MB video card
Upgraded from Windows 95 to Windows 98.
(I have a jumper problem right now, and can't seem to solve it to get it running. Probably better that way as it would take several hours to reach desktop )
Pentium III 450MHz.
128 x 3 PC100MHz. RAM (is that 384MB total? Monster! )
Riva TNT 32MB I think (I have two of these babies)
Maxtor Fireball 12GB hard driver
DVD player like 2 x that hardly skips at all. Especially if you never use it. Windows 98 upgrade to Windows XP.
Stable as a rock.
AMD Athlon 3200 2.2GHz.
ASUS Deluxe Socket A MB
2 x 512 Corsair XMS PC3200 400MHz. in dual channel currently.
ASUS 5950 Ultra 256 bit/256 MB. Sometimes I use this to heat the back room (40 x 30') or as a doorstop when I'm woking in the garage. 250GB Maxtor SATA HD (Getting a SATA boot drive on here is a story in itself )
Alien full tower case comes with Sigorney Weaver wearin' only her underwear. Said so on the box. 500w blue led PSU to provide light to see SW. Green LEDs that resemble an Alien in it's underwear .
Windows XP
This rig flies with the dual channel PC3200. Well kind of.
Pentium 4 2.53GHz.
ECS socket 486 MB, forgot chipset, so did ECS )
2 x 512 Kingston Value RAM PC2100 266MHz.
Nvidia MX400
2 x 120MB Western Digital IDE 5400rpm HDs
Windows XP
(used this machine at a the front desk for 6 years. Never reloaded it once. The office files looked like the rings around Saturn when I decided to swap it out the other day. )
HP Pavillion ZS4100 Notebook
1.7 GHz. Pentium 4
Upgraded 128MB RAM to 640MB. Sometimes all the RAM shows up and the monitor stops blinking on and off. Wife still uses it on occasion. Installed Acronis true image the other day and did a complete DVD system backup. Swore I would never reload this thing again. I won't live as long as it takes.
Notebook
eMachines AMD 64 3200 2.0 GHz.
ATI 9600 64MB graphics unit
60GB HD
Daughter uses it at Cal State Long Beach. She will lilely be in graduate studies at Pepperdine next year. No luck getting her a new notebook. Car.
Pentium D 805 2.66GHz.
ASUS 945G
Radeon 1550 512MB currently
4 x 512 OCZ Gold PC25400 667Mhz.
250GB Seagate SATA
Microfly case at the front desk
Windows XP
This is the processor I have probably overclocked the most. This is my 'international rig'. I had this bad boy clocking at the speed of sound one night. The next day an unidentifeid flying object was seen over Japan. Yep.
Pentirm D 925 3.0 GHz. *actually I switch the 805 D and this 925 around all the time*. I say I'm busy and don't have to do any real work that way. Intel micro 775 MB
2 x 1Gb Kingston HyperX PC3200 in single channel (I was fined once for being less wasteful )
PNY 6600GT PCIE (Free for working on a computer)
Maxtor 250 GB SATA
XQpack at a back desk
Windows XP
AMD 64 3400 2.2
EPOX socket 754 NF4 SLI
x800GTO
2 x 512MB Corsair PC3200 2-3-3-6
300GB Maxtor SATA
Antec 550w PSU
Zalman 9500
We use this in our X-ray/Clinical Photography Lab to quickly browse digital photographs we take of patients. Works well for that purpose.
AMD 64 3400 2.2GHz Clawhammer
ASUS Deluxe socket 754 MB
XFX 6600GT APG (Paid $249 at Newegg. The GTX280 was out wasn't out. :cry:
3 x 512 Corsair XMS PC3200 LL LED 2-3-2-5 @ 400Mhz. I've never got it to run there, but it's good to know I have a chance. :sol:
WD 250GB SATA
Windows XP
(No dual channel memory. 3 slots help, but single channel blows. Actually this system blows. I let the wife use it in a 'contract room' when she's talking business. The LEDs are nice. Looks like something you would see at a casino in Vegas. Brings out the big spenders.
AMD 64 3700 2.4 socket 754
ABIT NF3 MB
2 x 1GB Corsair XMS PC3200 LED 2.5-3-3-6 single channel
Radeon x800 GTO 256 bit/256 MB AGP
2 x 120MB IDE WD HD
Windows XP
Currently at one of the front offices. The girls like it for checking their hotmail and Spider solitaire. When they are not working which is constantly the case.
AMD FX55 (The Red Wonder)
ASUS A8N-SLI Socket 939
4 x 512 Crucial Ballistic PC4000 2.5-4-4-12
EVGA 7600GT x 2 SLI
74 GB SATA Raptor
160 GB Maxtor SATA storage
Zalman Fatality Red LED HSF
Red Logitech 510
Red LED fans
Why all the 'red' you ask? Sammy Hagar freak? Yep. Here is the case the FX55 is housed in. Be sure to play the Youtube link halfway down. :lol:
AMD 64 4800 DC Socket 939
ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe (The hottest running MB this side of the sun.)
2 x 1 GB OCZ Platinum PC3200 2-3-2-5 (Bad azz DDR. I have tatoos to prove it. :lol: )
EVGA 2 x 7800GT SLI (sometimes my solder job gives out and t's non SLI till I get around to it. )
2 x 250 GB SATA WD HD
Zalman 9500
fans include: roof, basement, side, front, back, ram, exhaust blower. Heat is a reality with this MB. I'm thinking of building it on the desk. No, ON the desk. No case, just drill out holes ON the desk and mount it there with all my papers and stuff. Really, some days when I use this machine I just pull the side cover off and forget about the heat. :sarcastic:
E6600 2.4GHz C2D
ASUS Micro P5B-VM DO 775
3 GB Adata PC6400 5-5-5-15
Nvidia 9600GT 512
250 GB WD SATA
160GB Maxtor SATA
80GB WD SATA
Dual Boot Vista 32/XP Pro
600w single 12v rail PSU
Zalman 9500
Zakman HD-160 HTPC case
http://www.anandtech.com/casecooli [...] i=2731&p=2
*Currently hooked to our Samsung 40" 1080p HD. My wife thinks I'm kidding sitting in bed with my wireless keyboard and mouse checking my email *
Q6600
P5B-deluxe
8800GTS 640
3GB G. Skill PC6400 4-4-4-12
74 GB Raptor
250Gb WD SATA
Zalman 9500 HSF
OCZ 600w Stealthstream PSU
Logitech 518
Logitech G15
Viewsonic 20" LED widescreen
Antec 900
(My son's computer. His friends all want one. And I've built a few over the years for them.)
I love my current machine. This machine is fun. I could sit here all day. Wait, I am sitting here all day!
Q9450
ASUS Maximus Formula SE X38
G. Skill PC28000 8GBs (4 x 2GB) F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ
OCZ 4GB Vboost Flash Drive Readyboost Enabled
Radeon 3870 x 2 CrossfireX
WD 150 SATA RAPTOR w/Vista Ultimate 64
WD 250 SATA storage
ASUS DVD-ROM
ASUS DVD-RW Lightscribe
Thermaltake TP 700 watt PSU
Thermaltake Mozart tower
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/prod [...] zartTX.htm Thermaltake Media Lab LED Remote control
Zalman 9500 LED HSF
Bose Companion 3 Series II
Slingbox Pro Digital Satellite
BenQ 22” LCD
I have all these machine running except the first one. Have you seen my overclock anywhere over Asia?! uch:
Message edited by badge on 07-28-2008 at 03:48:52 PM
That's the MB they used. I looked it up thinking it was going to be under a hundred bucks. Nope. Would make your Q6600 spin to new highs. P35 has 1 16x PCIE slot. P45 has a 2.0 16x PCIE slot. Of course X38/48 have two 2.0 16x PCIE slots. I have a G35. My X38 is a better Oc'er.
Maybe your MB has poor voltage regulators, that's why it acts bad like it's not getting enough power. I know ASUS offers enhanced VR's on their ROG (Republic of gamers) series boards. The best OCing RAM I have run across is OCZ Platinum and some of the G. Skill. I have five gigs of this. It runs over 1000Mhz. easily.
I've had generally good experience with Crucial Ballistic. I just bought 2 x 1GB PC6400 and have it stored away. Trying to add a 2 x 2GB set to it for later (when price comes down). I think I paid $19 with rebate for the 2 x 1 Gb kit.
I did have a problem with Crucial Ballistic PC4000 500MHz DIMMs I have owned for a long time. On my FX55, I ran the voltage up and left it ther (2.85-2.9v) to get it to 500Mhz. I left it there for a long while, like months. One DIMM burned up and I had to RMA. That's the FX 55 with unlocked multiplier. I blew a 7800GT out too. Ran the multiplier up and the video card failed. RAM was still there, but the video card headed south. LOL.
Message edited by badge on 07-28-2008 at 05:14:37 PM
If you dropped in an e8400 you would have your bus at 333MHz., CPU at 3.0GHz. and no heat issues you are experiencing with the Q6600. It's a thought. And the e8400 will OC to 3.6 on the stock fan. You could do some scaling then.
Message edited by badge on 07-30-2008 at 06:44:35 AM
I thought P6N was your board. First time I've ever been wrong that I can recall . Yeah, it's troubling having a machine run hot all the time. Instability is even worse. Wish I had some better ideas for you to manage a better OC and a 15K 3D Mark. I get 15.7 completely stock on my main system. I probably wouldn't get far trying to OC 8 gigs of RAM anyway. I'm happy. Of course I have never played a game in my life , but happiness does matter. How about the FX55 I'm using today. It's flexible. And it's the second fastest single core ever released. I keep killing my video cards and RAM everytime I 'experiment' with it. At least you haven't killed your stuff. + for you. - for me.
Nice work Grimmy. Enjoy your system. You are very good at what you do. I'm screwin' around with the idea of buying a cheap air brush and some stencils and 'touching up' some of my cases. Always something...
Note..hmmm, the MB supplies the voltage to the RAM. Maybe there is some built in resistors MSI put there to cause the voltage to require you to set it so high manually. I hope 2.6v don't cause the DIMMs to fail out. My Crucial Ballistic PC4000 brunt out when I set it to 2.85-2.9v. It took a while, months, but it gave out. I had to RMA to Crucial. Now I set the 4 x 512 at 2.75v and clock it at 430Mhz. or so. Anyway...
Message edited by badge on 08-01-2008 at 10:14:56 AM
Good job Grimmy.
That was a hell of a lot of work to get it stable but it looks like it payed off in the end!
That is odd as hell that it has to warm up for 5min before booting
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