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Flame baiting, at least as I understand it is posting intentionally inflamatory comments with the intent of starting an argument.

ahhh gotcha. thanks.

How does AMD disappoint you? The Phenom is native quad core. The Q6600 is a Multi Chip Module.
Native quad core has TREMENDOUS advantages over a Multi-Chip Module.

You're not being honest.

This is true. Most of the time the companies release the uber extreme mobos so I would expect one thats just out of this world in features witht the X58 chipset to be first and then a few more mild solutions.

I was just woundering but wont there be a P55 chipset as well for the enthusiast class people? And since Nehalem will no longer be dependant on the Northbridge for memory I would expect it to be on either the 1366 or other socket sine its the CPU that determines how many DDR3 channels i.e. Bloomfield will have 3 and Lynnfield will have 2.

Well either way good luck with your build. Just make sure you are happy with what you buy cuz thats what matters most.

Truth be told those advantages are only seen in the server market due the the naitive quad cores ability to communicate with eachother without having to go trough the FSB and instead have the HTT links to use. Other than that in the desktop market the MCM has been able to outpace the naitive quad without any problems in most normal apps and games.

As for him I would only guess he was pulled into the Phenom hype of it being much better than Core 2 or maybe something else.

Thanks Jimmy
Im already feeling pretty smug right now. My sis decided she neeeeeeeeeded a 500 dollar smartphone. I said its not worth it, she won't use half the features and the touch screen will break. Guess who's phone needs a new screen?
from batman "i bloody did tell you"!

And i wasn't pulled into the hype by anything. I am just bored of everyone using intel. I kind of want to give AMD a chance. Thats all.

^LMAO

Yea they are not that great unless you can use the features.

I read that the touch technology Apple bought for the iPhone wears out after a while.

And $500 bucks on a phone? Mand thats near 2 HD4870s for CF that will rip most games up.....

yeah, apperently ATT is giving her another 600 dollar phone for 130 plus two months of insurance free. I guess they only hate iphone users. BTW they gave me my phone free as well. Dads got an iphone but the service is decent.


uh... amd FTW? there, no spam.

^I will agree that AMDs ATI divison is doing quite good and makes me happy they are as I have always been able to trust ATI cards. Whenever I used nVidia it always bit me in the ass. Either the driver caused BSoD (in 2K and XP) or it just didn't perform like it should have.

I found this at
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9814 [...] index.html

It is not hurting my decision.

Unfortunately my e4400 at 2.66 does it in 22 seconds. not much of a boost there, maybe not multi-threaded?

Ok ive edited this about ten times, the picture worked the first time but now won't.

i prefer 9950

SuperPi is single threaded and highly intel optimized, well, depends a lot on the integer performance of the processor. Which Intel does better at. Granted I can show you benchmarks in Everest where the phenom completely wipes the floor with Intel without breaking a sweat. My system for example scores 50092 on the PhotoWorxx bench, compared to the 28809 that the QX9650 gets.

If you're doing compression of a lot of large files, Phenom will have the advantage there, especially if you OC the IMC/L3. WinRar bench can show that easily. 1,928KB/s on my old 9600be at 2.6core, 2.4 IMC/L3, and that was on my k9a2 plat with an early beta bios, only running DDR2 800 memory. If you can, go with 1066 DDR2, it's worth it. Ram speed does effect system performance on the k10, more so than the q6600.
This is what my current build does in WinRAR with no OCing, Main difference being 1066 memory. Come to think of it, think the 9600be was getting over 2000 at the stated settings.

And that wasn't even hitting 100% cpu usage.
Music is more of a mixed bag, depends on what you're doing or whether it's multi threaded.

hmmm think I might use this idea for choosing my next major system build. There are a few neighbors cars I wouldn't mind doing that test on .

for only 35 bucks more, i might get the 9950 instead. iv read that it clocks to 3.3 with the sb600.

Right now I have a 9850 BE system.It runs great (especially very smooth with the IMC).I would go with the 9950 BE CPU right now if you get a good motherboard that supports it.I use the
ASUS M3A32-MVP Deluxe AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard for my system which uses the SB600.This motherboard works with the 9950 with a simple BIOS update.However you might want to wait for the 790FX,750 SB motherboards to come out.
I've ducted my Window air conditioning system so that it supercools the components in my PC.

^Be careful with the 9950. It has a 140w TDP and if you OC you will want to get a good HSF.

Get... BOTH!! put em together, run em... and... send back the one you don't like?

^Always the easy way out huh Girmmy? lol

You can get $15 off the Phenom 9950BE at The Egg with promo code EMCAHCCBJ.

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