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wow...i would never guess an e6300 would bottleneck a 4870...I was gonna ask if you have enough juice powering your 4870...what psu are you running?

just fyi...I recently installed AOC on my comp just to check it out with my friend's account and I'm getting around 30 fps on high settings at 1920x1200...so you should be blowing me out of the water with your 4870...


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Ahslan wrote :

wow...i would never guess an e6300 would bottleneck a 4870...I was gonna ask if you have enough juice powering your 4870...what psu are you running?

just fyi...I recently installed AOC on my comp just to check it out with my friend's account and I'm getting around 30 fps on high settings at 1920x1200...so you should be blowing me out of the water with your 4870...




yea even my bro's 8800gt doin better with his e6750 ddr2 2G... I bought 600 or 610w ACbel (not much choice on PSU brands here). and i know my 4870 should be doing a lot better...I'm really thinking its the CPU..might just save up for q6600 since e8400 is out of the question.

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Dude, just spend the $84 on the DS3L mobo I linked on the last page, and use it to overclock your processor. You can match the clockrate of the q6600 easily. You spend less, and get the same result.

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"wow...i would never guess an e6300http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2 would bottleneck a 4870...I was gonna ask if you have enough juice powering your 4870...what psu are you running?"

You can't tell some people. He isn't utilising his cpu or gpu to 100% and is now looking at new parts.

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carlosmunoz08 wrote :

Sarwar,

You are right my mobo does not support e8400 damn so the choices left are e7200 or Q6600. I'm getting depressed... QQ



sorry mate but i don think quad is supported by ur chipset. u hav a 2yr old chipset....we din have quad at that time......and e7200 is still 45nm

ur best option is to get a new OC frendly MB....
but b4 doing so i recommend u try and play some of these games and post use the CPU & GPU load.
-HL2(should get 100% gpu+ close to 100% CPU)
-Grid (should get 100% CPU + underutilized GPU)
-Assasin's Creed (should get 100% CPU + underutilized GPU)
-Vegas 2 (should get close 100% gpu+ 100% CPU)

NOTE:the expected results i posted are base on the assumption that ur CPU is bottleneck.......

but trust me dude, ma x2 at 2.8Ghz + 9600GT gets bottlenecked by grid & assasin's creed at 1400x900 with ALL details maxed out and x16AA. and ur 1.83GHz c2d is the same as 2.3Ghz X2 when 3d game performance is considered.

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oc ur cpu 2.6+ u should be fine. if u cant pick my a new cheap mobo. seems like a cpu bottleneck ur other parts seem fine.
update: btw this happened to me before when i bought a 9800gx2 i got bad fps so i returned the card and bought a new replacement card and my fps jumped to where it should be. possible a bad card?

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invisik wrote :

oc ur cpu 2.6+ u should be fine. if u cant pick my a new cheap mobo. seems like a cpu bottleneck ur other parts seem fine.
update: btw this happened to me before when i bought a 9800gx2 i got bad fps so i returned the card and bought a new replacement card and my fps jumped to where it should be. possible a bad card?




But I still have to make sure first that the card is indeed bad. I dont want to go return something that is working fine. I just need to isolate the problem.

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sarwar_r87 wrote :

sorry mate but i don think quad is supported by ur chipset. u hav a 2yr old chipset....we din have quad at that time......and e7200 is still 45nm

ur best option is to get a new OC frendly MB....
but b4 doing so i recommend u try and play some of these games and post use the CPU & GPU load.
-HL2(should get 100% gpu+ close to 100% CPU)
-Grid (should get 100% CPU + underutilized GPU)
-Assasin's Creed (should get 100% CPU + underutilized GPU)
-Vegas 2 (should get close 100% gpu+ 100% CPU)

NOTE:the expected results i posted are base on the assumption that ur CPU is bottleneck.......

but trust me dude, ma x2 at 2.8Ghz + 9600GT gets bottlenecked by grid & assasin's creed at 1400x900 with ALL details maxed out and x16AA. and ur 1.83GHz c2d is the same as 2.3Ghz X2 when 3d game performance is considered.





dude sorry but vegas 2 is all i have.

anyway here are the results.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/tmunoz4/Forum%20Pics/vegas2.jpg this is right after i alt-tabbed from vegas2
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/tmunoz4/Forum%20Pics/vegas2c.jpg

This is how it looks when i keep it running on background.

BTW sar how come this llink tells me i can have q6600...http://processormatch.intel.com/COMPDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=dq965gf

i dont understand how the compatibility with my mobo and a new proc works, hmmm dunno that "45nm" stuff..newbie here

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jkflipflop98 wrote :

Dude, just spend the $84 on the DS3L mobo I linked on the last page, and use it to overclock your processor. You can match the clockrate of the q6600 easily. You spend less, and get the same result.



Flip,

My prob is that i really have no idea how to overclock, and i dont want to spend money on something I am not sure I will be able to do. So i think a good mobo that is OC friendly is at around 5000php here and a new proc would be at 9000-10000php. So spending half of the processor price on something unsure for my case is kinda off for me.


Thanks for the suggetion though.

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Guys,


Ok. I still cant decide if it would really be worth it to buy a new CPU, but if I were to do so given my specs and all what would you suggest?

Here is a pic of the pricelist of where I usually get my stuff.

Thanks!
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/tmunoz4/Forum%20Pics/pricelist.jpg






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does your brother have a motherboard you could try overclocking on?

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Ok, I've been checking out the Intel site and it looks like you can run the Quad 65 nm chips on that board meaning the Q6600/Q6700. The Q6600 will bump you up to 2.4 Ghz and the Q6700 2.66 Ghz. What you have to consider is: are the games you play Quad core optimized? I have no experience with Quads but from what I've read, they perform very well for games that are not optimized ONLY with a moderate or more overclock of the chip. So that leaves you in a similar situation albeit you'll still be at 2.4 ghz which is better than what you've got now.

I'd really suggest you take the time to learn overclocking. It takes some restraint, a delicate touch but can pay off big time. Some boards are easier than others, hell some almost do it for you ie. Asus Republic of Gamer boards, but they usually cost more. So get a moderate board such as the one suggested earlier, dig up so info on the many OC forums, and learn on that e6300. Then if you decide to upgrade to a better class CPU, be it Dual or Quad, you'll have the motherboard and know-how to really bump things up :)

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blessthefall wrote :

does your brother have a motherboard you could try overclocking on?




LOL like he'd let me experiment on his board LOL :D

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froggyluv wrote :

Ok, I've been checking out the Intel site and it looks like you can run the Quad 65 nm chips on that board meaning the Q6600/Q6700. The Q6600 will bump you up to 2.4 Ghz and the Q6700 2.66 Ghz. What you have to consider is: are the games you play Quad core optimized? I have no experience with Quads but from what I've read, they perform very well for games that are not optimized ONLY with a moderate or more overclock of the chip. So that leaves