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virtual-slay3r wrote :



I started to mess with the front panel power wires and it was booting up fine, it beeped once and I was all excited when all of a sudden it shuts down again. BOO!!! I am guessing it could be the power button... I will have to send it in to a repair shop and see if they can have a look at it.... I might as well... ibuypower is going to charge me anyways.



Uhmm I doubt it is a problem with powersupply button but all they are is a "push-to-make" switch (i.e. makes contact only while it is pushed in). The motherboard handles debouncing, etc. You can rip a replacement out of any other PC you find lying around or get a replacement in any electronics hardware type place. They don't usually go wrong however...

Heres a link for BIOS beep codes:
http://bioscentral.com/
I think one beep is a normal boot - right (original IBM beep code)?

Have you tried clearing the BIOS yet?

  • Unplug the PSU from the mains.
  • Remove BIOS watch style lithium battery from MB.
  • Wait 30 seconds.
  • Replace BIOS watch style lithium battery back into holder on MB.
  • Plug in PSU again and boot...


Its getting to the stage where someone who knows what they are doing needs to look at the system... me thinks!! :sol:

Bob

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bobwya wrote :

Its getting to the stage where someone who knows what they are doing needs to look at the system... me thinks!! :sol:

Bob



Precisely. I'm going to call geeksquad as soon as I get my check.


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virtual-slay3r wrote :

Precisely. I'm going to call geeksquad as soon as I get my check.



Ouch. If you are calling geeksquad, then things really do look bleak. o_O

I'm not super informed like many of the people on these forums are, but I would suggest virtually any alternative to using geeksquad as a fix ...

Like I said, I'm not a computer powerhouse of knowledge by any means, however I have yet to meet a geeksquad employee that knew more about hardware than me. Those kids have virtually no real knowledge (at least from my home area). I'd tell you a horror story about the local bestbuy geeksquad telling me how my friend's bios was not compatible with xp pro (when he purchased it with xp home), but I think that would be massive overkill at this point.

Unless your local geeksquad is made of better, more tech-savvy employees ... I would suggest looking for virtually any other option. You know: a local computer repair shop, a hardware shop, a kid down the street with far too many pimples and a strange gleam in his eye.

Seriously, just look for a local computer repair shop instead. Unless, of course, you can trust your local geeksquad's technical aptitude (My hometown WAS in Arkansas - admitted).

Good luck!

Narcissus

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geeksquad are the absolute worst, not to mention extremely overpriced

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"Copper water blocks and aluminum radiators will cause corrosion."

distilled water will not allow mineral build up in a system and the "Blockage" you speak of would be irradiated as far a s minerals go. with a 50/50 mix coolant to distilled water mix, if corrosion is your worry, modern coolant has inhibitors to keep corrosion from occurring from the electrolysis which is very minimal on a system as small as a PC system anyway. i don't know if your aware of this, but copper/aluminum hybrid radiators have been around since water cooling engines came out. water cooling a computer is no different from water cooling a car. are you aware that most pumps (even the good ones) utilize steel shaft? they guy above has the right idea. instead of a radiator, he is looking for a transmission/oil/power steering cooler (all the same, different size options). I actually built a water cooling system for a friend 4 or 5 years ago and the coolant in it is still yellow as it came new (used universal coolant). coolant has a 5 year life if mixed properly with distilled water ONLY. no build up, no cooling problems. oh, and it also cools better than any aftermarket kit for a pc he has bought. lol, he keeps wanting to buy a more compact version but they don't cool as well. and i made it universal, this is the 5th or 6th computer he has put this system on. he has never had cooling issues, even when overclocking (conservatively, not overkill overclocking)

Materials used - mind you when i built this, water cooling had barely come out, if not, it was close to being released on the market. a can't really remember the specifics, but anyway, there weren't any aftermarket pieces that you could buy separately bcck then, so i made them.

brass 90 degree gas fitting ( they have a big square side that you must finish out smooth and perfectly flat. this is the heat sink), it was like a 1.5ish inch square. being a gas fitting, you can adapt hose connectors to it

submergeable pump for an aquarium (its been a long time, i forgot the gpm, but its very little. high gpm is not a good idea if the rest of the system is not suitable for it. the coolant won't stay in the "radiator long enough and it will cause overheating" )

3/8 clear line

pvc reservoir with clear top and filler cap

automatic transmission cooler from a ford explorer (go to the junk yard 5 bucks) it has a different design than a normal tube and fin cooler and cools much more efficiently. look up B&M SuperCooler Oil Coolers, its just like those.

3 speed house fan (the small ones, like 8 or 9 inches. i can't really remember the size i used) i used a three speed as a quiet function for low performance instances like homework on microsoft word. the two higher speeds were for increased cpu output (like with gaming)

Red RTV Silicone (high temp silicone for coolant seal assistance on cars) use this on every connection (conservatively, it doesn't take much)

50/50 universal to distilled water coolant (never EVER use tap water. it is what causes blockage, as there is an organic additive that basically dies, if you will, and builds up when tap water is added. this is due to chlorine in water. only a thimble size of tap water is enough to destroy a cars organic additive. universal can accept tap water due to chlorine suppressants, but it hinders its life big time because it can't attach to 100% of chlorine before the chlorine gets to the organic additive. you are better off using distilled water. green coolant has a chemical additive in it, but it clogs stuff up when tap water is added too, so i wouldn't use that either. these additives are around to attach to small amounts of contaminant not controllable unless you are in a clean room. but they are not meant to take care of the huge amount of contaminants in tap water. if they are, they don't last very long at all.

im just trying to educate people on stuff like this so they can go and build stuff like this and build it right. since most people don't know some of the intricate stuff, they blame it on something other than the real problem. and i know this is an old post, but maybe someone will read this and get a better glimpse on how this stuff works.

"were all noobs at one point or another" <- that was really conceited and uncalled for mr. five years

don't bother replying i'm about to go to work and ill forget where the hell this site is anyway.

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Here you go bud,

referring to the other dudes inaccurate statement/s below

"Copper water blocks and aluminum radiators will cause corrosion."

distilled water will not allow mineral build up in a system and the "Blockage" you speak of would be irradiated as far a s minerals go. with a 50/50 mix coolant to distilled water mix, if corrosion is your worry, modern coolant has inhibitors to keep corrosion from occurring from the electrolysis which is very minimal on a system as small as a PC system anyway. i don't know if your aware of this, but copper/aluminum hybrid radiators have been around since water cooling engines came out. water cooling a computer is no different from water cooling a car. are you aware that most pumps (even the good ones) utilize steel shaft? they guy above has the right idea. instead of a radiator, he is looking for a transmission/oil/power steering cooler (all the same, different size options). I actually built a water cooling system for a friend 4 or 5 years ago and the coolant in it is still yellow as it came new (used universal coolant). coolant has a 5 year life if mixed properly with distilled water ONLY. no build up, no cooling problems. oh, and it also cools better than any aftermarket kit for a pc he has bought. lol, he keeps wanting to buy a more compact version but they don't cool as well. and i made it universal, this is the 5th or 6th computer he has put this system on. he has never had cooling issues, even when overclocking (conservatively, not overkill overclocking)

Materials used - mind you when i built this, water cooling had barely come out, if not, it was close to being released on the market. a can't really remember the specifics, but anyway, there weren't any aftermarket pieces that you could buy separately bcck then, so i made them.

brass 90 degree gas fitting ( they have a big square side that you must finish out smooth and perfectly flat. this is the heat sink), it was like a 1.5ish inch square. being a gas fitting, you can adapt hose connectors to it

submergeable pump for an aquarium (its been a long time, i forgot the gpm, but its very little. high gpm is not a good idea if the rest of the system is not suitable for it. the coolant won't stay in the "radiator long enough and it will cause overheating" )

3/8 clear line

pvc reservoir with clear top and filler cap

automatic transmission cooler from a ford explorer (go to the junk yard 5 bucks) it has a different design than a normal tube and fin cooler and cools much more efficiently. look up B&M SuperCooler Oil Coolers, its just like those.

3 speed house fan (the small ones, like 8 or 9 inches. i can't really remember the size i used) i used a three speed as a quiet function for low performance instances like homework on microsoft word. the two higher speeds were for increased cpu output (like with gaming)

Red RTV Silicone (high temp silicone for coolant seal assistance on cars) use this on every connection (conservatively, it doesn't take much)

50/50 universal to distilled water coolant (never EVER use tap water. it is what causes blockage, as there is an organic additive that basically dies, if you will, and builds up when tap water is added. this is due to chlorine in water. only a thimble size of tap water is enough to destroy a cars organic additive. universal can accept tap water due to chlorine suppressants, but it hinders its life big time because it can't attach to 100% of chlorine before the chlorine gets to the organic additive. you are better off using distilled water. green coolant has a chemical additive in it, but it clogs stuff up when tap water is added too, so i wouldn't use that either. these additives are around to attach to small amounts of contaminant not controllable unless you are in a clean room. but they are not meant to take care of the huge amount of contaminants in tap water. if they are, they don't last very long at all.

build one! hope this helps.

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.... ibuypower sucks. they screwed me over with my build.Actually......they benefitted me, making me learn how to build my own PC +1 to them!.... :whistle: So thanks to them i learned something!!! 1.Its cheaper to build your own PC , 2. Lol at the "burn in process" they told me it still had to go through before sending me my computer. 3.Ibuypower is TEH SUCK! :D :na: :pt1cable:

*edit HAh! geek squad!? Dont call them! You are better off finding a small computer shop and asking them! Even if you dont have one of those go to a LAN center and ask the owner! They prolly know more than anyone at Best Buy!! HAH! Retreads!


Message edited by BroHamBone on 07-29-2009 at 05:24:53 PM
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I would also suggest not ever going to Geek Squad as they will basically hire anyone.

You would honestly be better off finding an independent computer store and asking them. If you have any friends who are tech savvy this would be a good time to ask them as well.

My suggestion would also take this as an opportunity to lean more about your computer and its inner workings, like many of the other repliers have suggested. I built my first computer with my dad when i was about 10 years old and have never gone back to pre assembled ones.

Happy hunting!

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This thread is dead - look at original posting dates - please guys!

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grave digger lol, and this new system awards points to him!


Message edited by theholylancer on 07-29-2009 at 09:48:24 PM
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