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it's up to u..believe it or not..

but don't think korean is lier..

in this post we didn't do the any cheat and lie..

that's the point..

Reply to chy18

im not saying 'korean' is lieing - im simply saying posting some stupid pictures of CPU-Z and prime95 does not mean anything.

and im also saying that thumbing down my posts because im skeptical of your claims is very dumb on your part. i also have a feeling you are the same person manifesting yourself many times seeing as how NONE of the members here joined at the same time - only roughly 10 minutes apart from each other. no gaps, no nothing. as far as im concerned you are the biggest internet troll i have seen in years - and i have seen them all.

Message edited by werxen on 02-23-2009 at 07:46:53 AM

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Message edited by sadest76 on 02-23-2009 at 07:59:09 AM

Reply to sadest76

I am trying to gather all available reports about such ridiculous and unbelievable phenomena from websites written in Korean. What I need more is confirmation from other guys, especially from toms, and I believe the following summarized report may help you.

CPU: 0904CPMW
MoBo: Asrock AOD790GX/128MB
--> Success

CPU: 0904EPMW
MoBo: Biostar 790GX XE
--> Success

CPU: 0904BPMW
MoBo: Biostar TA790GX 128M
--> Success

CPU: 0904CPMW
MoBo: Gigabyte MA790GP-DS4H
--> Success

CPU: 0904CPCW
MoBo: Biostar TA790A GX2
--> Success

CPU: 0904EPMW
MoBo: Asus M3A78-T
--> Failure

CPU: 0904CPMW
MoBo: Asus M3A78-T
--> Failure

CPU: 0904CPCW
MoBo: Jetway HA07
--> Failure

Reply to psyubl

jetway&asus = failed

Reply to sadest76

dudu i know u didn't say that korean is lier

but i feel like that..

anyway in korea..it's gonna big happening

some of computer dealer buy the heca cpu which can change to quadcore..

and resell it add $35~40 from original price..

I mean it's expensive than the other heca cpu..about $35~40..

i'm in coma.... just imagine..

the price is same heca720be and deneb810.. lol

i'm just interest in this situation..

actually i don't have enough money to buy that cpu..

I'm just looking that inf..

lol

Message edited by chy18 on 02-23-2009 at 09:40:26 AM

Reply to chy18

but dudu u'll be know we r completly different person

by check the ip&mac address..

Reply to chy18

if this is true you can bet AMD would postpone the sale of these X3's CPU's till you can't change that Core count. Or maybe AMD wanted to do this so you can take a risk on the disabled CPU core.

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Reply to blackpanther26

we r not sure..i think it should be possible for selling

790gx chipset motherboard and heca cpu..

some of cpu don't do the disabled 1 core..

if that core over(?) is managed by amd..

they r pretty good at marketting i reckon

after that happen..

lots's of people know what is heca cpu..

even thought who didn't know what is heca..

what is triple core.. they know what is heca.. cpu

it's pretty interesting i think

Reply to chy18

some people who wanna buy heca cpu

they asked to computer dealer

they said

'amd said "we'll recall heca which can change quadcore to us'

but some of korean guys ask to the Amd korea about heca

which can change quadcore..

they didn't say anything..

it means dealer said lie.. 4 get some of benefit from that cpu

in korea we just have 1 of big computer shoppig market

they were combined for get some benefit..

it's pretty funny

but they were lier..

Reply to chy18

actually i just use Brisbane4800 (2.5@3.0)

i just wanna try to use triple core.. lol

blackpanther26 dudu..u got a good system..

i envy u

when'll be possible to upgrade my system..

i need money lol

'shoe me the money'

that's cheat code for get mineral and gas in starcraft single mode..

show me the money!!!!

Reply to chy18

http://dory.mncast.com/mncastPlaye [...] &skinNum=1

Check it. MOV file.

Message edited by NewManComing on 02-23-2009 at 11:44:17 AM

Reply to NewManComing

http://dory.mncast.com/mncastPlaye [...] &skinNum=1

that's motion image captured by korean overclocker..

just c it..and feel it..

it's completly true!!

after c that..u'll be trust what we told u guys..

Reply to chy18

Reply to genaii

http://www.parkoz.com/zboard/view. [...] ge=endpage

that's original posted link about motion image..

unfountenely it's written in korean..

coz that community was made in korea..

also almost of users are korean..

Reply to chy18

Yeah... I'm with werxen we need someone who knows sentence structure to confirm this one...

...Oh and remember, there are some who believe the world is flat, hell some believe the world was created in 7 days! Yeah this guy might believe this too and just not know any better.

Message edited by The_Blood_Raven on 02-23-2009 at 12:46:07 PM

Reply to The_Blood_Raven

cpu 0904xxxx random

maybe 60% possible

Message edited by genaii on 02-23-2009 at 12:56:44 PM

Reply to genaii

actaully i don't know exactly..why it was working..

but we just wanted to share information..

don't look this post just in negative way..

think positive.. if some people who r user in this community

which has heca was produced in 4th weeks in this year..

and plus has 790gx (has 750s.b,can control acc)

u'll be test it's possible or not..

i told u ..we don't need to do the argue with u guys..

if u guys has same item..just check it..

and if it works property..

that's all..

Reply to chy18

we have same personality in computer things i think..

u guys like do the test of hardware..

also like do the o.c

we r same..

just different thing is born in other country..

don't be upset dudu..

Reply to chy18

http://www.vimeo.com/3333450

Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition with Biostar 790GX

720BE prod/date code is 0904EPMW

all of this information from

Korea Top Hardware Mania forum 'Parkoz'

http://www.parkoz.com

Parkozen no.023203 'mevil'

Message edited by NewManComing on 02-23-2009 at 01:20:19 PM

Reply to NewManComing

Nice video genaii. Seems to just be some kind of freak accident , that...works.

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Reply to spathotan

someone who want any informations, this site:http://www.playwares.com/xe/?document_srl=2246121#54
for this transformation, you need a 790gx-sb750 motherboard(asus, jetway is not?), and 0904's heka 3cores processor(720 & 710).
however, some heka were able to transform into deneb(4cores), others werent.

Message edited by nalgae on 02-23-2009 at 03:21:20 PM

Reply to nalgae

Anyone have 710 or 720BE & the mobo??

Please test like that. I think it works...

Reply to theboar

needs Phenom II X3 (0904)

If it is not 0904, you would fail.

Reply to emesis166

not 0904...we don't have any definite information about it, because 0904 is almost in korea. 0849 is just only one(that failed).

Reply to nalgae

cpu = x3 710 or 720be (0904CPMW,0904BPMW, 0904CPCW etc 0904xxxxx)

Reply to genaii

http://my.ocworkbench.com/2009/amd [...] X3-720.htm

Wow
Who the bastard hell are you?

Sweep away all doubts.

Message edited by lovekukuri on 02-23-2009 at 02:45:49 PM

Reply to lovekukuri

Im not saying the OP is right or wrong on what he says happen, but iv read on a UK forum that a user has done this BUT even running all four cores at 1ghz with prime the system WAS NOT stable.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/s [...] hlight=720

So even if you can activate the extra core it may not run ok

Reply to mrfun1981

kukuri wow..that's cool..

coz of ur inf..more people should

trust it

good job~~!!

Reply to chy18

yep..u r right.. 1981..

we didn't say it works 100%

we just wanna share information

it has possibility..also some korean o.c

was success to do the transfrom to quadcore from heca..

some people can do use it quadcore with stability..

some people has problem of stability like can't log-on o/s

fail of the posting..

it depands on luck

depands on cpu..

Reply to chy18

just imagine if u r lucky..

u can get deneb940..

it's magically changed..

if it doesn't work well..

just use it..

i think it's pretty good cpu..

if u just use triple core..

in my case..

i'm pretty interested in it..

even though i don't have enough money to buy it

Reply to chy18

We are trying to share interesting information with u guys.
Don't need to be negative or aggressive.
All we need is little support from Toms hardware to find out whether this phenomena is worthless.
There are many available datas supporting this actually can work out well. Unfortunatelly, most of them are Korean. Anyone willing to examine this further?????

I really appreciate psyubl's effort.

Here is my result//
CPU: 0904BPMW
Mobo: Asrock AOD790GX/128MB
>>Success
was able to enable fourth core

Reply to Kormax

I have a 710 on the way, as well as a Gigabyte MA-790X-UD4. I see the 790GX from Gigabyte is having some luck, so hopefully I do also.

No need to bash these guys. Lets see you try to go speak Korean on a Korean message board. Not easy eh?

And to those of you guys from Korea with these unlocked cores ->

Overclock.net will receive you with open arms.

Reply to iShift

we need a professional assessment of the situation pronto. too many conflicting reports for me to make up my mind. if you have a 3 core phenom and you are NOT a brand new member like iShift please post your reports. all i have heard so far is new members saying that it works. i need an old schooler here to confirm this, otherwise its just as bad as saying corei7 can produce 16 threads with a simple bios tweak.

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Reply to werxen

werxen wrote :

I totally understand.

Also keep in mind, I'm neither approving or disproving this claim. I'm just saying I have ordered a 710 and an SB750 motherboard. That's all.

And I was referred to this discussion by a very similar post on Overclock.net (.Shift on there).

I also didn't think it was right for these guys to get bashed as they have. For whatever reason it may be. That's another reason I joined up.

I know I'm brand new here, but please - lets keep this discussion on topic. If you can't disprove them factually, please don't contribute with useless spam.

Thank you.

Reply to iShift

Why would you buy the new stuff without confirmation?

i think the skepticism is welcome and healthy. this is a very ambitious claim from these guy(s). to claim you can simply make a quad core processor from a 3 core processor that is stable and can run prime95 is... well... you know what i mean. all im saying is pictures are nothing and a group of friends can cause a lot of ruckus.

iShift do you have any new evidence to bring to the table? im curious because you speak very fluent English and maybe you could shed some more light in this sea of darkness.

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Reply to werxen

I know where you're coming from.

And I didn't get the 710 because of this. In fact, I'm not really concerned by the fact that it may not work. It's still a very good budget processor, and it was really interesting to read about it being unlocked into a Quad. Piqued my curiosity so to speak.

Like I was saying, I'm simply waiting for my hardware so I can provide some feedback regarding these claims. I'm sure many of you are quite intrigued, as am I.

And I'm from the States. Newegg is my friend. Thank you for complementing my English.

Message edited by iShift on 02-23-2009 at 10:54:27 PM

Reply to iShift

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/a [...] ,7080.html

Not sure if that has been posted yet or not (didn't care to read the flame war) but here is a article about it from toms...

Reply to kyeana

nice. Yeah if any one that has this CPU and a board can you see if it is stable?

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Reply to blackpanther26

LOL i can see this now many people coming back here stating there computers are crashing hard ever second because they tried to enable a failed core.

its still hard to believe one simple setting in the BIOS can enable a disabled core inside a CPU. they might as well just phtoshopped the BIOS screen making the sub menu have a choice of how many cores you wanted

Reply to captaincharisma

I'm not suprise one bit, if this fluke is real.

I was ONE of those skeptics, back in mid '08 when AMD released an announcement that ACC on SB750 would increase overclocks. Yep, one of those "WTF does the SB have to do with OC?". I have 5 Intel system and only 1 AMD System, so be skeptical, but keep an open mind, just because something works differently than what you are used to.

Message edited by flyin15sec on 02-24-2009 at 02:55:16 AM

Reply to flyin15sec

^ pretty much the consensus around here.

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Reply to werxen

Since the news broke people have been talking about this all over the internet. From the few that have actually tried it, it appears to work. But the results are varied some seem to be fully functional others not. Go to OC workbench they have done it themselves.

Its very interesting but because there are so few P2 X3's about at the moment its a bit hard to get an idea of whether the majority are working or not.

Reply to gpippas

Quote :

From the few that have actually tried it, it appears to work. But the results are varied some seem to be fully functional others not

that proves my point. the results will vary depending on how bad the 4th core was that they disabled

Reply to captaincharisma

Frankly though - whether this is real or not (I don't care either way, so don't get your flamethrowers ready :pfff: ) is immaterial. The fact is that AMD locks (insufficiently it would seem) the fourth core of a triple core processor for a reason, and at the manufacturering process these CPUs are at (or indeed any CPU with processor cores disabled) any seemingly small defect would result in a possible quad core being downgraded into a tri-core. Any defects a 700 series chip may have on its fourth processor would vary between CPU to CPU, which explain why this (if real) would work with some and not with other 700 series CPUs.

I personally though, would rather not try it with a tri-core, even if I had the chance. Having an extra core for free does seem testing - but if its not deemed fit for purpose in first place by the manufacterer then I'd rather leave it that way.

At least, those are my thoughts on the matter.

Reply to Roffey123

You know, this isn't entirely impossible to do. Remember the mods on the 6800 GS that unlocked shader pipelines and transformed it to a 6800 GT? Or BIOS flash to make the card think its a higher performing variant? I think this actually may hold some water.

Now, whether if it actaully is possible is still up for debate. I think it's up to Tom's to do a hardware analysis with their X3 720. If I remember correctly they had one for a test a few weeks back.

By the way, I am from Canada. So don't accuse me of being another spawn of the Korean board-goers.

Reply to eddieroolz

jimbo75 wrote :

You know similar stuff has been getting done with graphics cards for years...you could bios flash an x1800pro to open up more pipelines and turn it into an x1800xt for example.

I'm not saying I believe this...but if it's true then jesus AMD have been very, very smart because this is the sort of 'news' that will sell millions more 720 BE's

I think same as u.. I think it happen was purposed by Amd..

compare amd and intel.. it's like david and goliath..

as u know intel spend lots of money for marketting like cf,cm,ad on newspaper and so on..

but in amd case.. they couldn't..

so I think amd use heneb(heca -> deneb..korean call it heneb) for advertising their brand name..

and cpu.. I'm not to sure about it .. coz i'm not work in amd..

just i think it has possibility

Message edited by chy18 on 02-24-2009 at 03:05:09 AM

Reply to chy18

and after that happen lots of korean people know the brand "AMD"

and heca,deneb.. if they purpose to do that 4 ad..

i reckon amd's marketting is..very very very smart..

even though heneb will do the team kill deneb.. lol

Reply to chy18

lol i love English
I think u mean DAVID and GOLIATH**

Also, to all u guys (or one guy)....we're not saying (or at least from what i can tell its "we" ) that its not true. We're just skeptical of 1) if its true and 2) if its truly stable

Chy, theres an edit button for a reason and no reason to spam and troll

Message edited by Silverion77 on 02-24-2009 at 02:01:35 AM

I know u guys must be skeptical of it..

Some korean o.c is also worry about it

some people order to the heca which can transform quadcore and mobo

unfountenely i wasn't able to test it.. coz i don't have enough money to buy it

It's posted in korean community site like this site..

Some cpu is unlockable of the died core..

maybe in that case..core was no problem..but amd just do the laser cut

for sell it to heca..i think it's no problem of the other core..

actually deneb is more expensive than heca..so amd was

change deneb to heca for sell it..

some people wasn't able to unlock the other core..

they tried to control acc..but it doesn't have any respect..

i think in that case..the core was died..

i like talk with other guys about computer things..

that's why i love community..

even though my english is not good enough talk with others..

lol

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