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That big list of utilities is a great idea !!!

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^I agree. It would be nice if we could keep it up to date with the newest versions of each software, along with a link to download them.

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As a reminder, we're keeping the number of stickies in each subforum to a maximum of 3. That is why the Overclocking root forum is no longer a mess of stickies (in fact it's got half as many as 2 weeks ago). Stickies are good but only the most important information need be a sticky. You can always consolidate related information into a single sticky as well to keep the number of them down. Just note that extremely long posts or edits will be truncated.

Reply to randomizer

Yep, I figured. I have some major changes planned for my guide also.

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Reply to Proximon

evongugg wrote :

11. If the stock cooler has push-pins, did you ensure that all four pins snapped securely into place? (The easiest way to install the push-pins is outside the case sitting on a non-conductive surface like the motherboard box. Read the instructions! The push-pins should be turned the OPPOSITE direction as the arrows.)

I use a roll of packing tape or duct tape to support the motherboard while I am pushing on the pushpins.



I had a lot of trouble trying to get the push-pins to actually come through 1 corner wouldn't so I assumed it wouldn't make a difference.

How will this prevent my computer from turning on?

Reply to Tolga_Han

While this is not the place to ask for help, I'll answer that. Uneven pressure and contact between the heatsink and PSU could result in rapid overheating of a modern processor. It would overheat during the POST, possibly. More likely after the OS loaded, but still a possibility.

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Reply to Proximon

It turns on but I don't hear a beeping noise...which means I'm stuffed right?
Does the beeping come from the mobo or my case? My case doesn't have in-built sound.

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Tolga_Han wrote :

It turns on but I don't hear a beeping noise...which means I'm stuffed right?
Does the beeping come from the mobo or my case? My case doesn't have in-built sound.


Start a new thread and we will help you out.

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Just ran across another issue that could potentially be added to this list, although it isn't very common so perhaps it shouldn't be. Anyways, at work today and a computer crapped out and wouldn't turn on. Turns out the problem was the actually power switch, and bridging the power pins on the mobo fired it right up.

I thought it was at least worth mentioning.

Reply to kyeana

I think it's pretty well covered by breadboarding, but I've seen it myself. Not that rare.

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Reply to Proximon
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lol good point, i neglected to read through the breadboarding section before posting.

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Proximon wrote :

We should include that breadboarding link for sure. I don't completely understand the case switch thing jsc, are you saying to try to boot the build using the reset switch in case the power switch is bad?


Yes.

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I really thought the two switches were different, that the power switch itself was more complicated than it is... I got straightened out by someone else last week :)

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Nope. Both are just simple push button switches designed for momentary contact. If you look at my little Dysan box, you see the red and black push button switches. I tried twice to superglue the switches into the holes, but I kept getting glue into the switches. :( Finally, I just went into my "junkbox" and got the two switches.

Hey. I'm a packrat, and that's what packrats do. They save stuff. You never know when you might need something. OTOH, it makes moving Hell.

Reply to jsc

:lol:

I know the feeling, but it's more books with me :p

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Oh, yes. I have a hard time getting rid of books. I have, numerous times, tried the "you cannot buy one until you get rid of one", but I wimp out after about a month.


Message edited by jsc on 05-15-2009 at 03:38:56 PM
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I lost this link for a bit, but here it is... this can come in handy:

http://www.cwc-group.com/casp.html

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Reply to Proximon

Thanks, I added that to the original checklist.

Reply to shortstuff_mt
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Anyone else notice that since this has been stickied we have been getting a significant lower amount of "my build won't post" threads? And the few we do are much more difficult to trouble shoot it seems. I'm really glad this finally got the attention it deserved.

Reply to kubes

Ya, we noticed :)

Oh well, we can't do everything through a forum. At some point you kind of have to surrender on a few of these threads.

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Reply to Proximon

The build:
i7 920
asus p6t deluxe v2
902 antec case
OCZ 6GB ram
4870 vapor x 1gb
prolimatech megahelems
corsair 850HX psu
WD 1TB black

My computer was working great, had to install backplate for new CPU cooler. Plugged everything in correctly, now it won't start up...

The problem:

all the LED lights and all the fans turn on. But my computer fails to boot: the monitor doesn't turn on, nor does my mouse's red lazer light turn on.

I can use both the power button on the case and on the mobo "on" button to turn on the computer.

I haven't had a chance to play with the BIOS or overclock, so the computer is running on stock settings.

There is no beeping coming from the system.

I believe that its not a matter of the power, but since none of the output device's work... I think its the mobo. Why? i'm not sure but I would like to fix it regardless...

I'm afraid of the worst... any feedback would be really appreciated!!!




EDIT:
Please refer to this page:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/31-1600-pictures
And mobo has been RMA'd as of earlier this week


Message edited by itsgrandpa on 07-10-2009 at 04:44:33 AM
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You probally would get a lot more help with your problem is you started your own thread. That or actually read the first post in this thread. I'm guessing you forgot to plug in ur 4/8 pin power connector (an example would be in the above picture from your post)

So please start your own thread if you still need help.

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Message edited by shortstuff_mt on 07-10-2009 at 07:58:15 AM
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If you know how to fix computers, you can probably get a bunch of them for free if you do like Evil Staples and just tell people "it would be cheaper to buy a new computer, and you can recycle your old dead computer here for FREE! "

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I know you are past the video card/onboard video thing but I had an ASROCK which is a company started by ASUS in 2002, or so I was told, where you had to first boot with the onboard video, then load the driver for the video card. You were then to shut the computer off and install the video card, change the bios to that video card and then plug the monitor into it. What a pain. Haven't noticed that in the last 30 or so computers I've built.

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Hello guys, i have a question - What does it mean, when internal speaker doesnt beep at all, when i remove all RAM sticks. Only other components are CPU, heatsink GPU and PSU. Tried with all RAMs - no boot. Tried to remove RAMs - still nothing, not even a beep :(

Reply to sheira

Start a new thread, do not post in this thread.

Reply to randomizer

hi everyone, new here, I love the tips that shortstuff_mt started and others as well!



100+ great job

Mighty Mouse


Message edited by Mighty Mouse on 07-27-2009 at 11:39:26 PM
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I think this is great help for people that are new to assembling their own computers. I would add to #16 to be sure if its a switchable power supply that its set to 115v some power supplies come set to 230v.

Reply to littleleo

littleleo wrote :

I think this is great help for people that are new to assembling their own computers. I would add to #16 to be sure if its a switchable power supply that its set to 115v some power supplies come set to 230v.


You can't assume everyone is from the US. I'd blow my power supply and everything connected if I set it for 115V! It should say something along the lines of "make sure the input voltage switch is in the correct position." It's probably too late if you already tried running the PC with it set wrong though.

Reply to randomizer

I really like this write-up on power outlet grounding:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] d#t1960163
It's long but I got smarter reading it ;)

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Reply to Proximon
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You might want to add one more thing to check for: cables running under your mobo that have been "pierced."

I wanted clean cable routing for my recent build, and I've seen people run cables under the motherboard. I'm not sure if they're running them beneath the motherboard or beneath the motherboard tray, but my Antec P180 allowed for very little to run under the tray. As such, I ran a few cables directly under the motherboard, in the area allowed by the standoffs. Bad move! The sharp solder managed to pierce one of the cables, and apparently the bare wire was enough to short the sucker. Rerouted and everything is fine - fortunately I didn't damage anything.

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@ Drokkon,

You shouldn't be running cables dirrectly underneath your motherboard, they should be under the motherboard tray. The small gap between the board and the tray helps the motherboard breathe some.

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Message edited by kubes on 08-13-2009 at 01:57:43 PM
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Under the tray is fine. Under the MB is not :p

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Reply to Proximon

Made a few minor changes to the original checklist.

Reply to shortstuff_mt
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kubes wrote :

@ Drokkon,

You shouldn't be running cables dirrectly underneath your motherboard, they should be under the motherboard tray. The small gap between the board and the tray helps the motherboard breathe some.



Yeah. As I said, learned that in the school of hard knocks.

Just thought it should be added to the checklist, as it lists other "noobish" things like use standoffs in the first place. :D

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Message edited by drokkon on 08-18-2009 at 12:33:18 AM
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drokkon wrote :

Yeah. As I said, learned that in the school of hard knocks.

Just thought it should be added to the checklist, as it lists other "noobish" things like use standoffs in the first place. :D



Ya I agree. It might not be a bad thing to have in a post, but not sure if it follows the theme for this thread. This is more related to my computer won't boot vs here's a bunch of common mistakes. I guess though if it was added it wouldn't be a bad idea.

Reply to kubes

It was added last week to #13 along with a few other minor changes/additions.

Reply to shortstuff_mt

Its very nice check list and this information is need when any booting porcess is going on.

Thanks,

Reply to bobdavid00
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Nice! This should help a lot of people with boot problems...
A thumbs up! :) :p
Kinda reminds me of the troubleshooting we were taught in a computer tech class I took...ah those good old times...

Reply to videl

I think I have a new one...

Try waiting a few minutes between startups while bread boarding.

I had a HEC compucase with a nonstandard USB connector which when attached the obvious way would cause the computer not to boot. If it was removed, it would take a couple minutes until the system could fire up again, making tracking this down difficult. Turned out the color coding was not standard and they did not provide a manual. After I figured out the correct way to attach them, it was smooth sailing.

Reply to stardude82

This post is a sticky and not your troubleshooting thread, Meef. Please copy that text to your own thread, then edit this post to delete the misplaced text.

If you would like someone specific to help on your post, send them a PM with the link.

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Reply to Proximon

I just sat down and really looked closely at this checklist for the first time in a while. It's really come a long ways and is an impressive tool now. I think it's better than I would have made it, and it really has proven invaluable for keeping our tempers under control. People are handled with patience because this checklist filters out the repetitive errors.

The TH forums are a happier place because of this checklist. Thanks again Shortstuff and everyone else.

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Reply to Proximon

Thanks Proximon! I don't deserve much of the credit for the checklist, but I have tried to update it occasionally with new troubleshooting ideas I see suggested in various threads. I recently updated #15 since I noticed a lot of people seemed to think plugging their normal computer speakers into the back of the motherboard would allow them to hear their system beeps.

Anyone who has troubleshooting ideas not included in the checklist can send me a PM. I'll check it out and add it to the checklist if it's worthy of it. :)

Reply to shortstuff_mt

You should give credits.

 

Also, check your spelling in your "guide".


Message edited by overshocks on 10-26-2009 at 11:17:35 PM
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Reply to overshocks

For #16, one additional thing to check carefully. It is simple and it would have saved me a lot of troubleshooting steps: For endless reboot--check to be sure that your reset button is not physically sticking. It happened to me on an Antec 900. It was actually one of the first thing I checked, but a couple of taps, apparently, wasn't enough. It wasn't until I bench tested my mother board that I realized that there was a problem with the button after all.


Message edited by korkiley on 11-09-2009 at 06:19:21 PM
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