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need4speeds   08-14-2009 at 04:31:39 PM
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is the board's clear cmos or clear bios jumper on "clear cmos or bios spot" its a small jumper to clear the bios mem, make sure the power is unplugged first.

some boards actually are shipped with the jumper in the clear cmos position, they wont post untill you move the jumper.

look in the book and make sure the jumpers are all in the right spots,
i have not seen any boards not post at all, this is actually not that common, usually when a board dies it has things stop working like the hdd controller or sound card, it is possible for the pcie controller to die but i havent seen that yet.

if you have onboard try the onboard maybe the pcie slot is not enabled in the bios.

run it for a while and see if your cpu feels warm or stays cold, if its cold it could be the cpu, if you think its the cpu find a friend with a socket 775 system, its easy to change cpus and try it.

- take the board out and try it with just the card and p/s on the cardboard motherboard box, maybe a screw is shorting it out on the bottom or something in the case.

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nosnitrousx   08-27-2009 at 06:39:31 PM
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spencerfine wrote :

im not exactly sure that it is the MB but all indicators point its way. ive swapped psu, monitor, dvi cables, vcards (gtx 260 that im returning and this 4670 i just picked up all will not load.) system seems to boot, with no post just the sounds and the signal is never picked up. with the gtx 260 i was able to boot into safe mode but not regularly and yes i have the newest bios, ive tried just one stick of ram and pulling everything else out, reseting cmos, and pulling the battery about 100x. my buddy thinks it is a pci-e slot error but when i put it in the other slot it does the same thing---nothing just a blinking monitor light. this is the MB right? its not the psu, hd, vcard, ram, monitor, cable -so i cant fix it and am stuck with this ---ur right i can just replace it somewhere that still sells these but what if its the chip? i dont know. its been a month waiting for new parts and trying dif things with no luck



It happened something like that to me, believe it or not, was the thermal paste (Arctic Silver 5), maybe it was making some kind of short between my heatsink (hyper 212) and the heatspreader of the cpu (phenom II 940), just removed it and applied the one included with the cooler.

Hope it helps.
Regards.

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GlassDeviant   09-05-2009 at 06:30:42 AM
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Right now unless you are an extreme gamer, the D0-stepping i7-920 is the way to go, with 3GB of DDR3 (tri-channel, you use 3 sticks at a time). Grab a board that gives you 6 RAM slots so you won't be throwing any away.

This gives you the cheapest possible buy-in to the LGA1366 socket platform, decent performance (it's a 4-core CPU and the D0 stepping 920 is the most overclockable i7 in the stable).

If you need the extra RAM and you are going 64-bit (because any more than 3-4GB is pointless with a 32-bit OS), it is even more important to get a board with 6 memory slots, because you can make the choice of either getting 6x1GB and only having to throw away half of them when you upgrade, or grabbing yourself 3x2GB and having those other 3 slots available for when the 4GB sticks come out. The latter solution will yield 18GB compared to 15GB if you go the 6x1GB route.

razzb3d> On a single-GPU system the Core 2 duo and quad beat the i7, but with two or more graphics cards the older architecture is left sitting in the dust on anything smaller than a 28" ultrahigh res monitor (2560x1600 or more, large 1080p "monitors" are actually much lower res) where the video cards, rather than the CPU, become the bottleneck. (there is an article right here on toms that proves this point)

Or you could just figure out what the problem is with your existing computer, because there's not much you are apparently doing that requires more than what you are using now.

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jlear3   09-05-2009 at 06:34:44 AM
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im lazy and didnt read any of the posts, but regarding the post's title, when you feel your computer is dragging you down then you need to upgrade, if you're happy with your current speed, stick with it and save some $$$$$$

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aleccj1   10-08-2009 at 01:07:18 AM
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If I were in your situation, I would go the route of an AMD board. Here's a good one, it has a pretty good price, and includes somewhat reasonable integrated graphics (for your needs, should be fine, but you could always upgrade to dedicated graphics), along with the newer AM3 support:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128395

As for the processor, I would say either an AMD Phenom II X3 or an AMD Phenom II X4. I'm pretty sure both are at least under $200, but both of them may even be less than $150. In my opinion, these CPU's offer the best price-to-performance ratio.

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B-Unit   10-08-2009 at 01:14:16 AM
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/facepalm

This thread is 6 months old.

Death to the necro!!

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Yamahauler   10-21-2009 at 12:25:11 AM
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spencerfine wrote :

cool thanks. ive been reading a lot and it seems that this mobo is crap despite what maxpc says. half the people are complaining about something or other. its a little better with the EVGA and evga is a great company but their boards are RMAing all over. The best solution atm looks like the asus p6t deluxe v2. any thoughts?



If you're getting a new MOBO, go for the rampage extreme. 24 gig max, x-fi sound on the board, designed to overclock to record speeds.http://img.tomshardware.com/forum/uk/icones/biggrin.gif

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Cryslayer80   10-21-2009 at 12:42:32 AM
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yomamafor1 wrote :

The price difference between an comfortably priced Core i7 and Phenom II 940 is only 70 bucks top.

I would say go for the Core i7. For a little over 50 bucks more, you get almost twice the performance in CPU-intensive applications.


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Cryslayer80   10-21-2009 at 12:43:18 AM
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PsychoSaysDie wrote :

The 920 gives up 600mhz compared to the 955 and STILL kicks its ass


Let's get retarded! :pt1cable:

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Cryslayer80   10-21-2009 at 12:49:13 AM
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I have to post my opinion even if it's three years old. :D


Message edited by Cryslayer80 on 10-21-2009 at 12:49:46 AM
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mousemonkey   10-21-2009 at 12:59:47 AM
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When people are recommending parts five months after the OP it's time to call it a day I reckon.

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