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aoster87 wrote :

So I didn't buy the Z-2300 yet. I was going to order them on Newegg, but I decided I wanted to go buy them from Best Buy. I liked the idea of having them the same day and not paying for shipping. So I got to Best Buy and saw that not only did they not have the display of the Z-2300 anymore, they didn't have any of them at all in the store. I talked to an employee about it and he said they stopped selling the Z-2300 and put a set of Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 in its place.

Now I have a new issue.

The BB employee told me that the Klipsch blew the Z-2300 out of the water. I listened a little bit, and I couldn't really tell a difference (probably because I didn't have a side-by-side listening comparison). Klipsch (still feel stupid pronouncing that) seems to have a better reputation as a higher-end company, and I would like to have your opinions on those, if you have any.

Thanks again!





lol, didnt you see my massive klipsch speakers above? i used to own a klipsch 2.1 system before getting the z-5500. They are nice speakers but they have 1 major flaw (klipsch 2.1), the fuse in those speakers blows up real fast. also they overheeat a lot and burn up their amps. Also i personally think the z-2300 = klipsch promedia 2.1 in sound quality, they are not better not worse. But to be honest you cant go wrong with any of them. These are the speaker sets i have used in the past and they all sound very good for playing games, and music; they will give you loudness but not much defination

z-560 thx, klipsch promedia 2.1, klipsch promedia 4.1, klipsch ultra 5.1, z-5500....This is now i would rate them but they are all very very very very similar in sound and quality

Klipsch promedia 2.1 will have brighter sound, which is real nice. i dont remember if they use a horn tweeter in the promedia series, i had em 4 yrs ago.

z-5500 > klipsch ultra 5.1 > z-560 > klipsch promedia 4.1 > klipsch 2.1. :pt1cable:

i am a big klipsch fan lol

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Hey thanks a lot, I think I will order the Z-2300 via newegg.

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yeah go ahead, but remember i have seen those z-2300 go on ebay for 80.00 with shipping, so look around before you order. Gl

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Will do man, thanks for all the help!

By the way, what sound card do you suggest? I have just a plain Sounblaster Audigy SE.

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lol sorry man i cant help you there, i have a 6+ yr old sound card lol, its a creative audigy 2 zs platinum. :) but it works perfect so i didn't upgrade.

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tech9_79 wrote :

You build your own computer? build your own speakers.

http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=28655




haha, true that :)

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freezed1 wrote :

yes exactly. Bass or low frequencies are less directional (ideally you should not know where the bass is coming from, it should feel like the bass is equal everywhere you go in the room. but this doesn't happen)compared to high pitched source, maybe that's why you thought it was the satellites.



It wasn't the sub woofer either. It all happened when I upped the mid range frequencies using an equalizer preset on my sound card.

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Dude your an idiot, for sound card I suggest you start with an X-fi Xtreme Gamer. It's a nice entry level card if you like what you see maybe you'll upgrade to an X-Fi model with more X-Ram or decide you don't like Creative Labs and go down other avenues. I even have a PCI-E X-Fi Xtreme Audio card that came with my X58 motherboard I'm trying to get rid of it costs around $30-50 if you want me to sell it. It's functional and I've only used it to see what the driver control panel looked like in comparison to my previous X-fi models.

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bpogdowz wrote :

Dude your an idiot, for sound card I suggest you start with an X-fi Xtreme Gamer. It's a nice entry level card if you like what you see maybe you'll upgrade to an X-Fi model with more X-Ram or decide you don't like Creative Labs and go down other avenues. I even have a PCI-E X-Fi Xtreme Audio card that came with my X58 motherboard I'm trying to get rid of it costs around $30-50 if you want me to sell it. It's functional and I've only used it to see what the driver control panel looked like in comparison to my previous X-fi models.





hehe, he's straight up :)

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I think the G51 is a nice kid's model so go with your crappy 2.1 muddy bass with no sattelite support bs.

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freezed1 wrote :

lol, didnt you see my massive klipsch speakers above? i used to own a klipsch 2.1 system before getting the z-5500. They are nice speakers but they have 1 major flaw (klipsch 2.1), the fuse in those speakers blows up real fast. also they overheeat a lot and burn up their amps. Also i personally think the z-2300 = klipsch promedia 2.1 in sound quality, they are not better not worse. But to be honest you cant go wrong with any of them. These are the speaker sets i have used in the past and they all sound very good for playing games, and music; they will give you loudness but not much defination

z-560 thx, klipsch promedia 2.1, klipsch promedia 4.1, klipsch ultra 5.1, z-5500....This is now i would rate them but they are all very very very very similar in sound and quality

Klipsch promedia 2.1 will have brighter sound, which is real nice. i dont remember if they use a horn tweeter in the promedia series, i had em 4 yrs ago.

z-5500 > klipsch ultra 5.1 > z-560 > klipsch promedia 4.1 > klipsch 2.1. :pt1cable:

i am a big klipsch fan lol


The Promedias have a little tiny horn tweeter - it works quite well actually. It's among the clearer high ends of any computer speakers that I've heard (though the M-audio Studiophile BX8a beats it by quite a bit). I prefer their sound over the Z-2300, personally.

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Guess what, another monkey wrench in things here. I found a set of Z-5500 for 220 altogether on ebay, brand new. 80 bucks cheaper than Newegg. If I got that I wouldn't give a *** about sound cards because my mobo has an optical out and the Z-5500 can use that.

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@ bpogdowz

Man you don't need to be calling people idiots and insulting me for a product I want to buy. I don't have $1,299 to drop on some very high end speakers.

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Yeah I guess being the boss really does wear off on others. Lose the attitude. You will give a **** when your gay audigy is putting out at 44Khz you can't even really hear the Z-5500 unless you have 192Khz. I wouldn't be bragging you found them on eBay for the price they were at when I bought mine. FYI they went up in price.

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What is your deal?

 

EDIT: By the way, my Audigy is putting out 96Khz.


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bpogdowz wrote :

Yeah I guess being the boss really does wear off on others. Lose the attitude. You will give a **** when your gay audigy is putting out at 44Khz you can't even really hear the Z-5500 unless you have 192Khz. I wouldn't be bragging you found them on eBay for the price they were at when I bought mine. FYI they went up in price.


Just so you know, a 44.1 kHz sample rate is enough to perfectly reproduce any signal with content up to 22.05kHz. Since even people with good hearing can't hear past 20kHz or so, 44.1 is perfectly adequate for any audio purpose short of testing the hearing of bats. 96kHz has some benefits, but in most cases, they are purely theoretical benefits, and are completely inaudible. 192kHz is pointless in every possible way (especially since no audio system on the market can reproduce up to 96kHz, the maximum frequency for an audio clip sampled at 192kHz). The Z-5500 certainly isn't a high end speaker setup (though it is nice for computer speakers), and it will make no difference whatsoever whether you send it 44.1kHz (CD quality), 48kHz (DVD quality), or 96/192kHz (pointless quality) as far as the sound coming out.

 

Actually, there's a good case to be made that the best choice is to send it the same sample frequency as the original recording, to avoid any resampling. For example, you just pass through 44.1 kHz when playing a CD, 48kHz when playing a DVD, etc.

 

Oh, and for you to be telling others to lose the attitude is rather priceless. Maybe you should take a bit of your own advice...

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Meh I am still gonna go with the Z-2300 I think. The price I find on ebay for a new set is remarkably lower than any retail store or newegg.

@ cjl

Thanks for saying that. I had never thought about that and you make some very valid points. I was pretty sure I wasn't going to need to upgrade sound cards in order to have better audio quality.

@ bpogdowz

What does it matter what price your Z-5500 were? You just want to stroke your ego and put down other people. I didn't have anything against what you said until you started putting myself and other people down because of their opinions. Forums are a place of opinion, and if you can't stand to listen to differing opinions I suggest you keep your elitist self off of them.

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bpogdowz wrote :

Yeah I guess being the boss really does wear off on others. Lose the attitude. You will give a **** when your gay audigy is putting out at 44Khz you can't even really hear the Z-5500 unless you have 192Khz. I wouldn't be bragging you found them on eBay for the price they were at when I bought mine. FYI they went up in price.






hahaa....i am pretty sure you have some uber sensitive ears. 44khz is ample enough. btw according to lab tests there is minimal difference that is heard between 48/192. Also 192 cannot be heard from all sources, 192 is mostly PCM, do homework. Hey btw i got my z-5500 for 100$$$$$, smart shopping. :wahoo:


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cjl wrote :

Just so you know, a 44.1 kHz sample rate is enough to perfectly reproduce any signal with content up to 22.05kHz. Since even people with good hearing can't hear past 20kHz or so, 44.1 is perfectly adequate for any audio purpose short of testing the hearing of bats. 96kHz has some benefits, but in most cases, they are purely theoretical benefits, and are completely inaudible. 192kHz is pointless in every possible way (especially since no audio system on the market can reproduce up to 96kHz, the maximum frequency for an audio clip sampled at 192kHz). The Z-5500 certainly isn't a high end speaker setup (though it is nice for computer speakers), and it will make no difference whatsoever whether you send it 44.1kHz (CD quality), 48kHz (DVD quality), or 96/192kHz (pointless quality) as far as the sound coming out.

Actually, there's a good case to be made that the best choice is to send it the same sample frequency as the original recording, to avoid any resampling. For example, you just pass through 44.1 kHz when playing a CD, 48kHz when playing a DVD, etc.

Oh, and for you to be telling others to lose the attitude is rather priceless. Maybe you should take a bit of your own advice...



I like your attitude.

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aoster87 wrote :

Meh I am still gonna go with the Z-2300 I think. The price I find on ebay for a new set is remarkably lower than any retail store or newegg.

@ cjl

Thanks for saying that. I had never thought about that and you make some very valid points. I was pretty sure I wasn't going to need to upgrade sound cards in order to have better audio quality.

@ bpogdowz

What does it matter what price your Z-5500 were? You just want to stroke your ego and put down other people. I didn't have anything against what you said until you started putting myself and other people down because of their opinions. Forums are a place of opinion, and if you can't stand to listen to differing opinions I suggest you keep your elitist self off of them.



Maybe you should call the better business bureau.

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