How Will AMD stay alive? - Page 6

if it wernt for the i5 750, id say amd has a chance, but from the looks of it, amd needs to find that rabbit, the hat is getting boring

Most current game benchmarks are limited by the GPU at that level of CPU performance. If you look at benchmarks that are largely CPU-limited, the i5 is often well ahead of the Core-2 Quads.

Most of these tests, for example, should be limited by the CPU more than disk or GPU, and they show i5-750 regularly beating a 3.2GHz Core 2 Quad:

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 10-11.html

I always thought that monkey song was "Oh we owe..." - the Wicked Witch of the West being the IRS or some such .

Nope.

Stays within designed thermal and power limits. It's not overclocking. The two are different.

Hey dude

What I was trying to figure out looking at the benchmarks is that for the i5 750 they have listed at 2.6 Ghz when it is really running more like 3.0Ghz when being benched with the over drive? Is that correct? But it is not overclocking but it kinda gives it more power when needed. Which I think is a great idea. Kudos to Intell.

I just want to make sure I understand the i5 overdrive thingy. I would love to pick up an i5 but then I would need to get DDR3. I was looking at a deal at Microcenter. They have a Q9550 for $169.99 which is a great deal then I would only need to replace the mb and use all my old stuff which is still good stuff I could also do the same with an AMD system. (Of course I am an AMD fanboy ) If I get an i5 750 which is $179.99 there a dang good deal I would need to get the mb and memory.

I was just thinking.....maybe an upgrade at Xmas......hmmm......or just keep my AM2 6000+ Windsor and get a new video card and upgrade to windows 7. That would be the real cheap thing to do.

Good to see some familiar faces....errr.....avatars....... I still read TH but do get on the forums much anymore.......take care.

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Nope.

Stays within designed thermal and power limits. It's not overclocking.

The two are different.


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Well I have news for you ... plenty of CPU's can be overclocked by shifting the FSB or multiplier up a few notches without raising the core voltage ... and I call that overclocking.

I think your definition is suspect at best ...

However, while turbo mode is Intel's on the fly overclocking I don't have a problem with it ... actually I think it is very clever. Technically it is not overclocking as the CPU was designed to do it, and does it well. Its the opposite of speedstep.


Does make it hard to benchmark I guess ... but I don't really care.

So technically TC your wrong.

LOL, I think we kind of agreed, to some extent... I especially agree with the quoted statements above.

I don't see why it would be difficult to benchmark. You can use the same tests that are already out there. For some reason people want to call it cheating, or don't want to say that Turbo results are valid, but they are. They most certainly translate into the real world and real usage. To turn turbo off for benchmarking would misrepresent the product, as virtually all people who buy it are going to have turbo on and reap the benefits.

LOL, you speak fluent Aussie.

I like pie.

Whoops, I accidently typed "overclock" where I meant to type "benchmark".

As for OCing results, they are interesting to me, but I don't ever dwell on them to much as I generally don't overclock, but I would probably OC more if I could get my hands on an unlocked multiplier.

Sure.

Apple just announced a 2GHZ iPhone based on an underclocked E6300 and a 3" screen for $1,099.99. They also unveiled the prototype for a screen extension, a series of 3" modules that can be placed together end-and-bottom-to-end-and-top to form a 24" gaming monitor supported by a revolutionary ear and shoulder mounting system. Pricing was not disclosed.

The iPhone Xtreme will run at 10 FPS which Steve Jobs feels gives the user 20 to 50 FPS to watch the road ahead, depending on his or her age.

It will have a snazzy white case, so Apple will sell millions. Good for AMD.

AMD on new high share price 5.68

ps Upendra09 dont worry about amd they will do ok
they are like the pepsi to intels coke
they may not have the best cpu or cards but they have a good price which caters to the masses

pps they may how have the best graphic cards ...we will see

thanks ...
well i hope they do sometime soon, they may even win there court case against intel one day that will help them out a bit. hopefully there 5xxx cards will sell well.

need some ice with that burn?

any way y doesn't AMD have a few people that invest in Intel's stocks, and as they get higher, sell them and use that money to help R&D and marketing?

Intel stocks are bluechips. They stay pretty stable.

Use Google Finance and weight them against DOW or NASDAQ. Intel seems pretty stable as other have said. It is AMD that's making the move.
Anyway, avoid stock market at all cost unless you're in for the long-term (>1yr). You DO NOT want to play against those HFT supercomputers...

@sirkiilalot, glad too see old faces again.

Oh that, the 'one cat to rule them all' avatar that we decided to use from randomizer, lol! (Click the banner to join the fun...)
Here's my old avatar if you still remember.

Just make sure you have Adblock turned on and this new site runs relatively smooth. Still nothing compared to vBulletin or phpBB of course, but it's constantly improving.

In answer to the name of this thread:
I really don't know. AMD may still have something up their sleeve. I personally prefer Intel to AMD, but wouldn't want AMD to go under and Intel to have a complete monopoly on processors.

Nah, discrete GFX market is too small.

AMD's (financial) hope lies in nVidia's GTX 300 series being crap.
Yet as amdfangirl said, the GPU market is dominated by IGPs (evidence of this is Intel having the largest GPU market share).
Best possible case scenario for AMD would be:
1)Phenom II X6 clocked at 3.2 GHz with a 140w TDP launched by March 2010;
2)Then shrink the Phenom II line to 32nm by June 2010 and release 4.0GHz 12MB cache 125w TDP Phenom II X4 995 processor.
3)Have Bulldozer ready for a November/December launch, performing as good as Core i9 and Sandy Bridge mArch.

Globalfoundries *should* be able to begin 32nm production by mid 2010 (best possible case); but the word is AMD hasn't got the designs ready foption 2) to become true.
Then the rumoured PII stepping 3 might get thuban (X6) CPUs up to 3.0 GHz with 140w TDP, but option 1) seems unrealistic, both for the GHz and the release date.
Finally, they've clearly stated Bulldozer will be ready only by 2011, though an ahead-of-schedule lanuch (bug-free, of course) is plausible, and an utter need for AMD. Yet the question is whether it'll compete well against Sandy Bridge or not. Option 3) can come true with some luck.

What is left for AMD till 2011 then?
Offer really cheap solutions with awesome performance, (probably lower PII pricing a bit), bring down TDPs (PII 965 125w is announced; 955 95w TPD too), and SIGN SOME CONTRACTS WITH OEMS!!!! Dell and HP offer nowhere the same AMD PCs than Intel's. Also, "Evergreen" should and must allow them to turn a profit by Q1 2010.

Lol 'some pundits'. You don't really count fazers, really.

AMD break-even Q4 2009. *Gauranteed*

ok

Jennyh please do not start with AMDzone and fazer, i just want to know more about intel and AMD, i am not a fanboy, except for which ever one helps me save money, currently AMD.

and don't criticize others, just correct them, my thread isn't for trolling and personal blows

back on topic
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how can u say AMD will break even? the DX11 cards? i heard they won't help alot

Welll..... AMD has re;eased a 100 dollar quad core... and the core i5's are still around 200 bucks.

AMD will do fine , they have always been good at being frugal.

calm down tiger

Another grant from Uncle Rudd?