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dold@XReXXDirec.usenet.us.com wrote:
> DanR <dhr22@sorrynospm.com> wrote:
>
>
>>But wait... My buffer is NOT being destroyed. Say I watch channel 2 for a
>>while and build up a buffer. Then I switch tuners using the "live TV"
>>button. Now I'm on some other channel with some leftover buffer. Then
>>without switching tuners I manually (or channel up/down) select channel 2
>>and happily my buffer is still there.
>
>
> You're watching channel 2, and it goes to commercial. You switch to the
> other tuner and start surfing, and stumble onto channel 2 which causes a
> tuner swap. Channel 2 is on commercial, so you continue surfing. You lost
> the buffer on channel 2. The other tuner has the buffer for the last
> channel you were on before 2.

You know, I can see why they designed it like that (figuring that nobody
would want to buffer the same station twice), but I think they should
change it, it's just not as intuitive in actual practice. Better to let
a non-optimal situation occur once in a while (i.e. buffering the same
station twice) rather than risk the user blowing away a buffer they
might have wanted.

Randy S.

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True. Buffer gone.

dold@XReXXDirec.usenet.us.com wrote:
> DanR <dhr22@sorrynospm.com> wrote:
>
>> But wait... My buffer is NOT being destroyed. Say I watch channel 2 for a
>> while and build up a buffer. Then I switch tuners using the "live TV"
>> button. Now I'm on some other channel with some leftover buffer. Then
>> without switching tuners I manually (or channel up/down) select channel 2
>> and happily my buffer is still there.
>
> You're watching channel 2, and it goes to commercial. You switch to the
> other tuner and start surfing, and stumble onto channel 2 which causes a
> tuner swap. Channel 2 is on commercial, so you continue surfing. You lost
> the buffer on channel 2. The other tuner has the buffer for the last
> channel you were on before 2.
>
> ---
> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5

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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:46:23 GMT, SINNER
<arcade.master@googlemail.net> wrote:

>* Sean Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
>
>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:15:39 -0400, "Randy S."
>> <rswittNO@SPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I don't have a Directivo w/ dual tuners, but
>>
>> But Randy is going to spew some gibberrish anyway.
>>
>> Thanks a lot Randy, you're a big help.
>>
>> Sean
>
>Yet he was on the money, unlike you who has never owned a Tivo and yet
>you seem to be intimately knowledgeable of the whole product line. Yeah
>you're right, oust Ramsey and get shawnie boi in ther right quick now
>ya hear?

Just another ignorant post of many.

Sean

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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:46:52 GMT, SINNER
<arcade.master@googlemail.net> wrote:

>* Sean Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
>
>> READ: Upgraded for FREE.
>
>Read: Not necessary for Tivo because I own the box and can repair it
>without their help or thier restrictions.

You own it all right.

I get free service/repair/upgrades on mine.

Which is the better deal?

Sean

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* Sean Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:

> On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:46:52 GMT, SINNER
> <arcade.master@googlemail.net> wrote:
>
>>* Sean Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
>>
>>> READ: Upgraded for FREE.
>>
>>Read: Not necessary for Tivo because I own the box and can repair
>>it without their help or thier restrictions.
>
> You own it all right.
>
> I get free service/repair/upgrades on mine.
>
> Which is the better deal?
>

Mine, as I control what upgrades I get and when I want them. Its
worth a buck or 2 to be in control but then, a shill like you would
not understand the concept.

I have had both mine for over 2 years, never a problem. While you may
have gotten free repair/upgrades, the simple fact is, you NEEDED
them. Anything I have done to my machines is because I WANTED to,
they worked GREAT out of the box.

--
David

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* Sean Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:

> Just another ignorant post of many.

Point out the problem or STFU.

--
David

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In article <Xns963F71F39119ALouiscypherhellorg@140.99.99.130>,
SINNER <arcade.master@googlemail.net> wrote:

> * Sean Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
>
> > On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:46:52 GMT, SINNER
> > <arcade.master@googlemail.net> wrote:
> >
> >>* Sean Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> >>
> >>> READ: Upgraded for FREE.
> >>
> >>Read: Not necessary for Tivo because I own the box and can repair
> >>it without their help or thier restrictions.
> >
> > You own it all right.
> >
> > I get free service/repair/upgrades on mine.
> >
> > Which is the better deal?
> >
>
> Mine, as I control what upgrades I get and when I want them. Its
> worth a buck or 2 to be in control but then, a shill like you would
> not understand the concept.
>
> I have had both mine for over 2 years, never a problem. While you may
> have gotten free repair/upgrades, the simple fact is, you NEEDED
> them. Anything I have done to my machines is because I WANTED to,
> they worked GREAT out of the box.

And the SA8000 works so poorly STILL, that Comcast is paying good money
to TiVo to switch over the software.

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Sean wrote:
> On 19 Apr 2005 15:46:15 -0700, relaxification@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>
> >> My, my. It's "Mr. I'm not going to post anymore because I'm tired
of
> >> getting bitch slapped."
> >>
> >> Welcome back, dillweed.
> >>
> >> Sean
> >
> >You just keep telling yourself that, Sean. Everybody loves you.
>
>
> Are you sure you're not an abused wife?
>
> I keep slapping you and you promise to be better and not cause any
> more problems but yet you still come back for more abuse.
>
> I think you need to find yourself a shelter to take you in.
>
> So sad.
>
> Sean


I find it odd you berate me for my ass-cancer comments re: Comcast
(which I stand by), but then choose to make fun of abused wives.

Also, dillweed isn't really a very good insult.

Feel free to believe you're somehow winning this silly flame war. The
fact that you continue to post inanities despite many other people
calling you far worse than dillweed indicates clearly that you do not
understand when you're losing.

What kind of education do you have, Sean?

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"Randy S." <rswittNO@SPAMgmail.com> wrote in message news:d4719u$18du$1@spnode25.nerdc.ufl.edu...
> dold@XReXXDirec.usenet.us.com wrote:
> > DanR <dhr22@sorrynospm.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>But wait... My buffer is NOT being destroyed. Say I watch channel 2 for a
> >>while and build up a buffer. Then I switch tuners using the "live TV"
> >>button. Now I'm on some other channel with some leftover buffer. Then
> >>without switching tuners I manually (or channel up/down) select channel 2
> >>and happily my buffer is still there.
> >
> >
> > You're watching channel 2, and it goes to commercial. You switch to the
> > other tuner and start surfing, and stumble onto channel 2 which causes a
> > tuner swap. Channel 2 is on commercial, so you continue surfing. You lost
> > the buffer on channel 2. The other tuner has the buffer for the last
> > channel you were on before 2.
>
> You know, I can see why they designed it like that (figuring that nobody
> would want to buffer the same station twice), but I think they should
> change it, it's just not as intuitive in actual practice. Better to let
> a non-optimal situation occur once in a while (i.e. buffering the same
> station twice) rather than risk the user blowing away a buffer they
> might have wanted.
>

Many TiVo users watch programs from Now Playing and rarely use LiveTV.

Logical consistency and intuitiveness are not necessarily congruent.

The same channel does occasionally get buffered on both tuners.
You are left to figure out how this can happen without a power reset,
a menu item restart, or the satellite signal test.

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> Many TiVo users watch programs from Now Playing and rarely use LiveTV.

Absolutely true. I rarely watch anything Live anymore myself.

>
> Logical consistency and intuitiveness are not necessarily congruent.

No argument there.

> The same channel does occasionally get buffered on both tuners.
> You are left to figure out how this can happen without a power reset,
> a menu item restart, or the satellite signal test.

Sure, I'm just saying that I see why they designed the behavior the way
they did, but it's probably marginally better the other way.

Randy S.

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"Sean" <none> wrote in message
news:0bef61pj1kdbr31n129d4vchg960aqaq01@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:46:52 GMT, SINNER
> <arcade.master@googlemail.net> wrote:
>
> >* Sean Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> >
> >> READ: Upgraded for FREE.
> >
> >Read: Not necessary for Tivo because I own the box and can repair it
> >without their help or thier restrictions.
>
> You own it all right.
>
> I get free service/repair/upgrades on mine.
>
> Which is the better deal?

Ownership, clearly. I'm not a "hacker" kind of guy, but I networked my
Series 1 DirecTivo and put in a bigger hard drive with no problems. I can
pull programming off of my DirecTivo and burn DVDs or, as I did when I was
in China last month, transfer them over the internet to my laptop so I could
keep up with a couple of shows that I like (Lost and Amazing Race -- I
didn't want to wait to see what happened). I can set my DirecTivo to record
shows via a direct connection over the internet.

Even if DirecTV offered a rental Tivo box, I wouldn't have it -- no benefit
whatsoever.

>
> Sean

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Jack Ak (akjack@excite.com) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> The same channel does occasionally get buffered on both tuners.
> You are left to figure out how this can happen without a power reset,
> a menu item restart, or the satellite signal test.

Pad the end of "The West Wing" by 1 minute and record "Law & Order" as well.

Any back-to-back programs on the same channel with any overlap will result
in both tuners on the same channel for at least a while.

--
Jeff Rife |
| http://www.nabs.net/Cartoons/Goals.gif

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"DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospm.com> wrote in message
news:Fkj9e.507$%L1.81@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
>
> Yea, that makes sense but sounds like poor engineering in that I have no
> control
> over which channels will be buffered. I know of no way to choose which
> tuner to
> use.

It's not poor engineering, it's by design.

Down arrow to swap tuners. Set each tuner to the channel you want buffered
and change tuners to move back and forth. Now you have the control you
seek.

But you may find that, like many of us, that buffering becomes an almost
non-issue as you may start to watch all shows from recordings and LiveTV may
become a thing of the past.

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"Sean" <none> wrote in message
news:54rc61peje6ffsg33d6mbm7ehh67095u94@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:15:39 -0400, "Randy S."
> <rswittNO@SPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I don't have a Directivo w/ dual tuners, but
>
> But Randy is going to spew some gibberrish anyway.
>
> Thanks a lot Randy, you're a big help.

Actually he was a help. The info he gave was correct.

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"DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospm.com> wrote in message
news:Fkj9e.507$%L1.81@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
>
> Yea, that makes sense but sounds like poor engineering in that I have no
> control
> over which channels will be buffered. I know of no way to choose which
> tuner to
> use.

It's not poor engineering, it's by design.

Down arrow to swap tuners. Set each tuner to the channel you want buffered
and change tuners to move back and forth. Now you have the control you
seek.

But you may find that, like many of us, that buffering becomes an almost
non-issue as you may start to watch all shows from recordings and LiveTV may
become a thing of the past.

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