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FYI ur built is horrible, here is the only good gaming rig u should build

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Well the OCZ is a solid PSU, but if you feel more comfortable with the 600watt, then by all means get it. Should you plan to overclock, it might be a little more taxing on the PSU than one would like, the 600watt gives you a good amount of freedom with upgrade options.

The 8200 is a good CPU, its part of the newer generation of 775 chips, and is a popular choice, its got a nice balance between speed and price, and is a good competitor to the Phenom II x3.

Reply to Transmaniacon

I watched the whole ad. I smell a troll, complete with bold assertion and unsubstantiated drivel.
Overclocking was not discussed, which is just as well, since I don't think these essentially commercial systems should be (or only slightly). At stock, the X2 250 beats the e5200 in most things, particularly gaming: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/def [...] p=96&p2=66

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Furthermore, the bundle is no longer available, not that you'd want it; the RAM is 4x1GB, rather than the less-troublesome 2x2GB, and I did not find a competent technical review of the PSU, but it is not 80+ certified.

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rescawen wrote :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aKx0Mhdrys

FYI ur built is horrible, here is the only good gaming rig u should build

Did you read ONE sentence in this thread?

Message edited by godbrother on 08-31-2009 at 10:34:31 PM

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I know this isn't really what you are asking the board but,
How much are you going to need to charge each customer per hour.
If it is more than other cafes cost, will people pay for it?
are you certain they want the higher end computers, or will they just want to play cs?

I agree with the person before, who said to start with 10-12 high end, and then see how it goes from there.

Reply to Ilyafordictator

Well you could assign say 4-5 PCs for those really demanding games like Crysis and the rest for garden variety games hehe

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rescawen wrote :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aKx0Mhdrys

FYI ur built is horrible, here is the only good gaming rig u should build

It's not even that great. They use playing Crysis as a marketing tool, but if you end up cutting corners on unknown cheaper parts, your computer is in risk of being unstable or unreliable in the future. The point of buying reliable parts is that you have less risk with higher benefits.

It looks like the OP already knows the demographics of his/her customers and like he/she said, many people in Turkey go to cafes for hours on end. If having 20+ high-end computers brings in more profit, why settle for less when you know you will have customers?

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Message edited by kokin on 09-01-2009 at 06:08:20 AM

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kokin wrote :

It's not even that great. They use playing Crysis as a marketing tool, but if you end up cutting corners on unknown cheaper parts, your computer is in risk of being unstable or unreliable in the future. The point of buying reliable parts is that you have less risk with higher benefits.

It looks like the OP already knows the demographics of his/her customers and like he/she said, many people in Turkey go to cafes for hours on end. If having 20+ high-end computers brings in more profit, why settle for less when you know you will have customers?

Well said Kokin, two thumbs up!

Message edited by godbrother on 09-01-2009 at 02:47:57 PM

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So OK, my mind has been made up, it will be the Quad system offered to me. Now down to the more inportant part, which OS should I go with? I really would like to use Windows XP, as for one, I personally hate Vista, along with everyone in Turkey... And two, I would like to have XP becuase it uses half the resources if any then Vista.

The only problem with XP is it only recognizes 3.5GB's of RAM. Then comes XP 64-Bit that supports 4GB+ ram, but I heard bad things about the 64-Bit XP OS, is it really incompatibile with most games or applications?...

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O, and for the people that mentioned it a few times, the cafe set-up is as follows:

10 x Low end PC's:

CPU: Pentium 4 3.0Ghz 800Mhz FSB Hyper Threading (1MB Cache)
RAM: 2GB DDR2 800Mhz Generic Ram
GPU: 9500GT 512MB DDR2
HDD: 80GB IDE 7,2000RPM
LCD: 22" LG TFT Black/Silver Monitor

20 x High End PC's:

CPU: Quad-Core Q8200 - 2.33Ghz 4MB Cache 1333FSB
RAM: 4GB DDR2 800Mhz Team Elite Ram /w heat sinks!
GPU: GTS 250 - 512MB DDR3 256bit
PSU: Cooler Master 600W PSU
MoB: Gigabyte GA G31M Motherboard
HDD: Maxtor 250GB Sata II Hard drive
PCC: Random Mid PC Case
LCD: 22" LG TFT Black/Silver Monitor

Consoles:

- 5 Xbox 360's
- 5 PS3's

Other Extras:

- 4 Full Size Professional Pool Tables

Message edited by godbrother on 09-01-2009 at 03:03:43 PM

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Vista Home Premium 64-bit is fine on a system with decent specs, your quad core, and 4 gigs of RAM will run Vista fine, and if you are only gaming on them, the there really won't be any differences in OS performance. Plus you get the free upgrade to Windows 7, which I would upgrade to (per game compatibility).

For the older machines, I would say stick with XP Professional 32-bit.

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Transmaniacon wrote :

Vista Home Premium 64-bit is fine on a system with decent specs, your quad core, and 4 gigs of RAM will run Vista fine, and if you are only gaming on them, the there really won't be any differences in OS performance. Plus you get the free upgrade to Windows 7, which I would upgrade to (per game compatibility).

For the older machines, I would say stick with XP Professional 32-bit.

Yeah, I was thinking the same, but people REALLY dis-like Vista here, its like a virus, people tend to want to dodge it. And the old machines, I was going to use a basic edition of XP Home for them.

Anyone have a good insight on XP64?

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The driver support is pretty poor for XP64, your almost better off just sticking with XP for everything, and then making the jump to windows 7 when you feel the need. Since you are just gaming on the computers, and not on huge resolutions, the ~3.2GB of RAM that XP will recognize will be fine.

If Vista will shy away customers then dont use it hehe

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Transmaniacon wrote :

The driver support is pretty poor for XP64, your almost better off just sticking with XP for everything, and then making the jump to windows 7 when you feel the need. Since you are just gaming on the computers, and not on huge resolutions, the ~3.2GB of RAM that XP will recognize will be fine.

If Vista will shy away customers then dont use it hehe

It's not just customers, its everyone... For example, when OEM laptops (like Dell/Asus etc) ships to Turkey, they get wiped from Vista and downgraded to XP Home/Pro by the manufacturers.

I heard very good things about Windows 7 Havn't had a chance to try out the beta though. Just one last thing regarding XP64... Seen as I'm not going to use the builds for home/office, and will only serve one purpose and that being gaming, why would I have problems with drivers?... I mean, they will be on standerd USB Keyboards and Mouses along with well known graphics cards.

Reply to godbrother

I wouldn't risk it with 64-bit XP. Both driver and software support is sketchy at best with it. You're better off going with 32-bit XP and upgrading to 64-bit Windows 7 later IMO.

Reply to shortstuff_mt

I love Windows 7, and am very happy with it, not sure if you can get a hold of the RC/keys still though. I have not heard good things about XP64, not to mention its expensive, and will lose support soon (not good for future proofing the computers). I would say stick with XP32 bit now, and maybe try Windows 7 on a couple computers and get some user feedback, if the customers like it, then maybe consider upgrading everything to Windows 7, you can get a year off of the RC until you can afford to purchase liscenses.

Furthermore, companies are not going to be releasing many drivers for XP64 for their new products and updates, and will be gearing towards Vista/7.

Reply to Transmaniacon

Hmm, I guess your right, XP32 allows 3.5GB of RAM, and for "todays" games thats by far more then enough. Alrighty then, I'll be going with XP Home SP3.

Reply to godbrother

^ this, less than 500$ and can play crysis =]

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stevensl2 wrote :

^ this, less than 500$ and can play crysis =]

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I think you need to post pics of your establishment when you get it up and running. Some of my fondest gaming memories were playing Delta Force (the original) on a 8 station LAN after hours at a business. People were drunk, stoned and just generally having a blast.

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rodney_ws wrote :

I think you need to post pics of your establishment when you get it up and running. Some of my fondest gaming memories were playing Delta Force (the original) on a 8 station LAN after hours at a business. People were drunk, stoned and just generally having a blast.

Aww yes, will do without a doubt. But we're having troubles getting the pool tables in. They want to tax us for it, and its a very high price so I'm a bit pissy at this point.

------------------------------ CPU: Pentium 4 641 - 3.2Ghz - Hyper Threading - 2MB Cache - 800Mhz FSB - 65nm
RAM: 2GB DDR2 Dell 800Mhz
GPU: 8600GTS 256MB GDDR3
HDD: 160GB Maxtor Sata II 7,200RPM
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A tax to have pool tables? o.O

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Kithzaru wrote :

A tax to have pool tables? o.O

Making money from pool/snooker is considered a business, and for that you will be taxed the normal rate every pool/snooker house is taxed at which is 40%. + A yearly tax of $500 per table. Meh.

You can't just open up a store and pay a one off on pool tables, charge a very high price and only expect to pay the rent for the store at the end of the month. Pool is very popular in Turkey, its priced at around $15-$20 an hour in most places, and for this, the tax is also very high.

I'm trying to find a replacment to pool... no luck so far.

------------------------------ CPU: Pentium 4 641 - 3.2Ghz - Hyper Threading - 2MB Cache - 800Mhz FSB - 65nm
RAM: 2GB DDR2 Dell 800Mhz
GPU: 8600GTS 256MB GDDR3
HDD: 160GB Maxtor Sata II 7,200RPM
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