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> And it would be immediately obvious to anyone using the debug
> screen on a CDMA phone

Well...that rules out 99.999999% of handset users.

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FCC posting:

http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Public_Notices/DA-05-1776A1.html

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Kathleen Carmody <councilmembercarmody@ci.brooklyn-center.mn.us> wrote in
news:Ma2dnax9_uCdOyDfRVnyjw@skypoint.com:

>
> (-PLEASE- No lectures or legal suppositions needed or desired)
>
> Anyone know where to purchase a cellular phone jammer, preferably
> stateside. There are vendors off shore, but none here in CONUS
> that I know of. Please post here any US vendors that sell cellular
> jammers. (Extra points for relating your experience with using one.)
>

What kind of thrill do you get from asking stupid questions ?
You asked the same thing in rec.radio.scanners and got flamed.
Think it would be any different here moron ?

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In message <4HMwe.1249$aY6.307@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>
DecTxCowboy <dtc_nada_spamo_ramp@swbell.net> wrote:

>> And it would be immediately obvious to anyone using the debug
>> screen on a CDMA phone
>
>Well...that rules out 99.999999% of handset users.

True, but well within the capabilities of most of the professionally
employed cell signal monitoring monkeys.

They might not catch you if you're walking around, but a stationary
jammer will get noticed, will get complaints, and will eventually get
found.

--
Just sit through this NRA meeting Marge, and if you still
don't think guns are great then we'll argue some more.
-- Homer Simpson

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In article <dm4we.1609$GH6.1357@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>,
jr70@blackhole.invalid says...
> I was speaking primarily about email messages.
> You are not using your ISP's NNTP server. Your NNTP service:
> UseNetServer.com, is one of the independents who does not record
> the originating IP address. Although this practice is quite common for
> third party NNTP service, email messages always contain the
> originating IP.
>
I used them about 6 months ago and they were recording the IP
but the trace was hashed to mask the IP in the message. point
being that someone reading the headers could not determine the
IP but if required by law enforcement or the inhouse abuse dept.
to produce the IP they could. Maybe they have changed, but I
thought law required the service to be able to provide law
enforcement with the IP.

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In article <MPG.1d2fa21c9721b07f9896b9@news-server.cfl.rr.com>,
djk <djk@spam.operamail.com> wrote:

(regarding UsenetServer.com)

> I used them about 6 months ago and they were recording the IP
> but the trace was hashed to mask the IP in the message. point
> being that someone reading the headers could not determine the
> IP but if required by law enforcement or the inhouse abuse dept.
> to produce the IP they could. Maybe they have changed, but I
> thought law required the service to be able to provide law
> enforcement with the IP.

Have you actually LOOKED at the headers?

There's no NNTP-Posting-Host line at all, hashed or not.

Have you actually LOOKED at their FAQ list?

Here's what they say:

> At Usenetserver.com, it is our goal to keep your personal information as
> private as possible. Our news servers remove the X-TRACE header and
> NNTP-posting-host header, thereby removing where you posted from. Other users
> only see from which UNS server you posted. To track spammers, we keep a log
> of up-loaders for a period of 48 hours. We also do not monitor what you
> download. We only monitor how much you download in accordance to your chosen
> account. Please understand that we only see byte data and nothing else.

Referenced from:

http://www.usenetserver.com/faq.html


no, there's no such law that the service be able to provide law
enforcement with the IP for Usenet news postings. You may be thinking
about email.

If we as a country get to the point where the feds want to track Usenet
postings, I'm getting a gun and moving to a remote cabin in Canada.

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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <MPG.1d2fa21c9721b07f9896b9@news-server.cfl.rr.com>,
> djk <djk@spam.operamail.com> wrote:
>
> (regarding UsenetServer.com)
>
>
>>I used them about 6 months ago and they were recording the IP
>>but the trace was hashed to mask the IP in the message. point
>>being that someone reading the headers could not determine the
>>IP but if required by law enforcement or the inhouse abuse dept.
>>to produce the IP they could. Maybe they have changed, but I
>>thought law required the service to be able to provide law
>>enforcement with the IP.
>
>
> Have you actually LOOKED at the headers?
>
> There's no NNTP-Posting-Host line at all, hashed or not.
>
> Have you actually LOOKED at their FAQ list?
>
> Here's what they say:
>
>
>>At Usenetserver.com, it is our goal to keep your personal information as
>>private as possible. Our news servers remove the X-TRACE header and
>>NNTP-posting-host header, thereby removing where you posted from. Other users
>>only see from which UNS server you posted. To track spammers, we keep a log
>>of up-loaders for a period of 48 hours. We also do not monitor what you
>>download. We only monitor how much you download in accordance to your chosen
>>account. Please understand that we only see byte data and nothing else.
>
>
> Referenced from:
>
> http://www.usenetserver.com/faq.html
>
>
> no, there's no such law that the service be able to provide law
> enforcement with the IP for Usenet news postings. You may be thinking
> about email.
>
> If we as a country get to the point where the feds want to track Usenet
> postings, I'm getting a gun and moving to a remote cabin in Canada.
>


If I help build the cabin, can we make it big enough for two?

--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'

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"Jer" <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote in message
news:11c497qcrhhq648@corp.supernews.com...
> O/Siris wrote:
>> In article <VNZve.1101$zp6.723@trnddc08>, rutherford@hotmail.com says...
>>
>>>its not against the law. whether or not it should be or not is a
>>>different subject, but as it stands, there are no laws saying you cant
>>>call yourself whatever you want on the internet
>>>
>>>john travolta
>>
>>
>> Really? Call yourself a police officer.
>>
>> I think that, if anyone were to bother to investigate (and that's a
>> significant if unless you actually use the claim to some end), you'd find
>> there *are* limits.
>>
>
>
> Of course there are limits, but you may use any alias name you want to
> identify yourself in any venue, including in person, so long as there's no
> intent to defraud.

The internet is global so I assume these limits apply to every country in
the world? Or are you using the approach that everyone here must be in the
U.S.?

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Build your own, it's actually quite simple provided you don't need
long range. Schematics and other info at:

www.gbppr.org

I think it can even be simpler than that, but I'm not stupid enough to
try it myself.

Enjoy.

M


On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:44:16 -0500, Kathleen Carmody
<councilmembercarmody@ci.brooklyn-center.mn.us> wrote:

>
>(-PLEASE- No lectures or legal suppositions needed or desired)
>
>Anyone know where to purchase a cellular phone jammer, preferably
>stateside. There are vendors off shore, but none here in CONUS
>that I know of. Please post here any US vendors that sell cellular
>jammers. (Extra points for relating your experience with using one.)

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In article <-uKdnTJGKNMXUFHfRVn-gQ@comcast.com>, demenas@comcast.net
says...
> The internet is global so I assume these limits apply to every country in
> the world? Or are you using the approach that everyone here must be in the
> U.S.?
>

The Internet might be global, but Sprint PCS is U.S. only, so it's
natural to assume that readers here are in the USA.

--
RØß
O/Siris
-+-
A thing moderately good
is not so good as it ought to be.
Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
but moderation in principle is always a vice.
+Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+

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In article <Xns9685974EA56D1ewrfdgrstnet@140.99.99.130>,
Jesse <org@org.orgy> writes:
> Kathleen Carmody <councilmembercarmody@ci.brooklyn-center.mn.us> wrote in
> news:Ma2dnax9_uCdOyDfRVnyjw@skypoint.com:
>
>>
>> (-PLEASE- No lectures or legal suppositions needed or desired)
>>
>> Anyone know where to purchase a cellular phone jammer, preferably
>> stateside. There are vendors off shore, but none here in CONUS
>> that I know of. Please post here any US vendors that sell cellular
>> jammers. (Extra points for relating your experience with using one.)
>>
>
> What kind of thrill do you get from asking stupid questions ?
> You asked the same thing in rec.radio.scanners and got flamed.
> Think it would be any different here moron ?

Must be a glutton for punishment. She also posted the question to
comp.dcom.telecom, sci.electronics.misc, and sci.electronics.design.

--
Jim Seymour | "There is no expedient to which a man will not
jseymour@LinxNet.com | go to avoid the labor of thinking."
http://jimsun.LinxNet.com | - Thomas A. Edison

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Jim Seymour wrote:
>
> In article <Xns9685974EA56D1ewrfdgrstnet@140.99.99.130>,
> Jesse <org@org.orgy> writes:
> > Kathleen Carmody <councilmembercarmody@ci.brooklyn-center.mn.us> wrote in
> > news:Ma2dnax9_uCdOyDfRVnyjw@skypoint.com:
> >
> >>
> >> (-PLEASE- No lectures or legal suppositions needed or desired)
> >>
> >> Anyone know where to purchase a cellular phone jammer, preferably
> >> stateside. There are vendors off shore, but none here in CONUS
> >> that I know of. Please post here any US vendors that sell cellular
> >> jammers. (Extra points for relating your experience with using one.)
> >>
> >
> > What kind of thrill do you get from asking stupid questions ?
> > You asked the same thing in rec.radio.scanners and got flamed.
> > Think it would be any different here moron ?
>
> Must be a glutton for punishment. She also posted the question to
> comp.dcom.telecom, sci.electronics.misc, and sci.electronics.design.

Hmmm... A politician *and* a troll. Who'da thunk it!

Notan