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Thank you! I order some paste. I am printing out the instructions for on how to apply the paste. LOL...I knew I would do something wrong. I will keep you posted. Right now I am to scared to use the comnputer.
Okay, an update....
I applied the thermal paste and tried running disk clean up and same problem. The fans click on loudly and after a few seconds it shuts the computer down. But when I try the internet and the game spider now issues. I worte down the following when playing spider:
CPU Core Temp: 42.0 to 41.8 cel.
CPU Freq and Voltage ID: 4.0 and 1.1000
CPU Load and OS Load: 4% to 27% and 2% to 20%
Core Clock and Throttle: 798 and 798
I have no idea what I have done wrong.
Tinamarie
The solution in this thread worked for me. I offer my thanks to the contributors.
| tinamarie2401 wrote : Okay, an update.... I applied the thermal paste and tried running disk clean up and same problem. The fans click on loudly and after a few seconds it shuts the computer down. But when I try the internet and the game spider now issues. I worte down the following when playing spider: CPU Core Temp: 42.0 to 41.8 cel. I have no idea what I have done wrong. Tinamarie |
CPU Core Temp: 42.0 to 41.8 cel. -----------that's okay, lower than my amd3000
CPU Freq and Voltage ID: 4.0 and 1.1000---------multiplier and frequency throttled down, that's where the low temp comes from
CPU Load and OS Load: 4% to 27% and 2% to 20% -----ok
Core Clock and Throttle: 798 and 798----------at full speed (when opening an application) this should become 1800
Your cpu temperature is okay, no worries there.
Rightclick "my computer" -- properties--advanced--startup and recovery- and uncheck the box "automatically reboot".
You might suffer from memory errors, download and run memtest86+ to check that.
Try running the disk cleaner in windows' safe mode, might make a difference.
I bought the Media Cable and my computer is now working like new. I highly recommend the cable if you can find it.
Hello Que.
Well, first let me say congratulations on all these good deads. You are really helping us big time.
Second, my problem...I also have a R3000 and also have a power issue. But I'm not sure if it's like everyone's else, so there it goes...
R3000 with new power adapter and drained battery. Everything plugged, the lightingbolt light goes on for few seconds and then off making a little "tic" sound by where the cord is plugged, however, i'm not sure if it is right at the plug. Then, it goes back on for another few seconds and off just flashing like that forever. If I use my other 4600 battery fully charged from my other HP laptop, it works fine for a couple hours on battery power without AC. And if I plug the AC without battery, nothing flashes (cuz there's no battery) but it turns on for about 2 secs and off just like when its drained battery is in there. Now, I don't know if it is something I can change or if it is something a tech has to do. There is a place at ebay that offers fixing it for $150.00 but I don't know if I need to spend that much. Plz help.
BTW. I meant to say deeds not deads lol, that sounded creepy.
Oi, I thought you discovered the skeleton.
So it is working with the new battery, but is it also working with the new battery in and on AC, and charging the new battery?
Not working from the AC only, is weird, probably some capacitors going bad.
I bought a secondhand board off ebay for $160 shipped, because I did not wanted to take the risk of having a badly repaired board, that would soon get other problems, or spend a small fortune shipping it, to hear it can not be fixed.
hi again Que. No skeletons around here so far lol. (besides the laptop)
Well, I tried the AC on with the new battery on and basically The short on the ac forces the laptop to shut down 2 to 3 secs after I press power. Just like always when it's plugged to AC. So a new board it is... jezz... Thanks for that info m8. Great chatting with you!
Well, if you want the laptop to work, board replacement or repair, you will have to take it apart anyhow, why not do so and see if you can fix it yourself? If it is the power-in jack's central pin only, it can be soldered back to the board. You can check the most left and right contacts (copper ones) of the docking port, and see if you can get the power adapter's voltage on those contacts. Wiggle the dc-in jack to see if it fluctuates indicating a bad contact. If it is a real short, like the layers of the board touching at the center pin connection, then there's little hope, besides using an XC1000 all-in-one media cable, that connects the powerbrick to the laptop through the docking port.
You could simulate one (the $100+ cable) by routing the power from the adapter through these contacts, to see if it would work for you. (if not, internal parts are failing, like capacitors, shottkey voltage barriers. brrrrr!)
PS, when your good battery is drained, it will not charge in the laptop, even when the laptop is off?
Check out this site about a class action suit covering the power connection problem being discussed.
http://www.hpnotebooksettlement.com/
I found this the day after I experienced the dreaded power connection failure. I was successful in taking mine apart and soldering it. But I did have 5 screws left over after I got it back together.
I've decided to get a new laptop and then send my R3000 in for repair.
Hi Que and others,
Can you please clarify for me - if I but hpxc1000 power cord, do I also have to buy a powerblock? Rather my question is will I be able to connect this power cord from the outlet to the docking port on my darn laptop. Thanks so much.
No need for a new power adapter, the old one fits right into the xc1000 cable.
Before
After
I own a laptop repair business in Tucson. This may be of interest to show what actually happens to the solder connections. We recently had a Compaq Presario R3000 in for a power jack repair. We took some before and after photos of the solder connections for the power jack. In the “before” photo, the black lines ringing the solder connections is where the solder joint cracked and broke the electrical connection. No rings are evident after a new power jack was soldered on.
Thanks to this forum and others, I have successfully restored power with voltage at the jack pins, and the docking port. I was so happy when it was back together, lightning bolt came on, then *bam*, it went back out. I have power when connected to AC, but not when running battery only. I am assuming it is a battery issue, but I haven't tested the pins in the battery compartment for voltage. Will do that tonight.
Ok, so one problem may be solved, but now, I get the following message:
"Disk read error Press control+alt+delete to restart"
I did, and nothing changes, same message. I am hoping this is a simple fix and that my HD isn't blown, perhaps a cable connection or something simple? Any input from this group would be greatly appreciated!
If you took the thing apart, maybe the harddisk isn't back in it's place right, or the little strip that is on the harddisk's ide pins is missing? No cd still in the cd drive? You might have killed the disk, or damaged the software table on it. Boot from a bootdisk, or better some dos disk, and see if fdisk sees it. If so exit fdisk back to the dos prompt, and type fdisk/mbr , then push enter. Reboot and see if it helped.
I have an Compaq R3000 with similar power issues.
The fun is not spinning out of control, the CPU doesn't seem to be overheating but it shuts off when running on both battery and charger or battery alone. It works fine when using battery charger alone but the minute I plug in the battery it shuts off.
When I plug in the charger with the battery installed, the power light comes on and stays on for 5 seconds, then goes off. So, for what ever reason the battery cannot be charged by the power supply and the computer cannot run on battery (it shuts off).
What could be the problem? I have purchased a new power cord and that's exhibiting the same problem so I've ruled that out. I don't want to spend a fortune on battery if that will also not fix the problem.
Any Ideas?
Can be a bad battery, bad loading circuitry of the mainboard, failing power supply.
Do you have a 120 or a 135 watts power brick? Going from 120 to 135 made the difference for some, though I would look around for another battery first, or a way of testing the one that's in.
I think it's the battery but I'm not sure and I have no way of testing the battery to make sure it works.
How old is that battery, what was battery life before it refused to work?
Cheap, on ebay, from china/hongkong. And easily resold there if it ain't the fix?
hi all , newbie member with similar power cord problems, tried replacing the ac adaptor with a new one , it worked for a couple of days then stopped , have taken the laptop apart and resoldered as per instructions given on previous messages , still no joy , however here is where my problem is slightly different
i can use my dads ac adaptor for a compaq 2500 to run on ac power , i have to take the battery out for it to work and if i want to charge the battery i have to close the machine down , the specs ac adaptor on my dads is 18.5 volts ,current 4.9 amps power 90 watts, the specs on ac adaptor for my compaq r3000 18.5volts,current 6.9 amps power 120 watts, i have brought my adaptor to a pc shop and had it tested and have been told that it is working , so that it leads me to believe that it is the jack on the adaptor that goes into the back of the laptop that is faulty???any thoughts or suggestions ???the machine is 4 years old works fine with my dads adaptor and have never had any other poblems with , at this stage it is getting a little frustrating to say the least
anyone out there who could offer possible solutions apart form smacking the thing with a hammer !!
thanks in advance
I've had the same problems.
I will be taking my laptop apart tonight. I've never done anything like this before. Hope it all goes well.
Read through this entire forum and thoroughly enjoyed myself.
Que is the man.
| logman wrote : I've had the same problems.
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So I took it apart. Had a few troubles with some screws being stuck. And the videos really helped (http://h20181.www2.hp.com/plmcontent/NACSC/SML/results.htm?SID=384511&MEID=F2DAF231-84E4-4AE7-BE71-BB1CA8A20D6A)
I absolutely sucked at the soldering process and was scared that I had ruined things.
I couldn't get a good shiny solder, and kept retrying. The circuit board was becoming a darker green where I was applying the heat and I think it melted a bit maybe. I really should have taken a before and after picture.
But it back together again. Half broke off the LED cable from the circuit board when putting it back together.
(See the system board video, at 2:50 to see which part I mean)
At the time I wasn't sure what it was I had broken. And was really worried. Thought it was for my touchpad, but that was the ZIF cable next to it.
Put it back together, 2 extra small screws, and a few I mixed around.
Started it up off battery just to see if it was broken. It booted up, touchpad worked, noticed the LED lights weren't on. Put two and two together.
Breaking that LED receptor for the cable isn't a big deal right? I taped it, guess that didnt work.
So then plugged in the power source, booted it up, was running off battery.
Frustrated, and at midnight, I went to bed.
Up at 5:30 for work, turned it on to get a better idea. It does the flicker from power source to battery as before.
And putting pressure on the cord does keep the laptop connected to power source. Same problem as before.
Am going to order a power jack online. Take it apart again when I get the new power jack. And this time take my motherboard and the power jack to a shop where they know how to use a soldering iron hahaha.
Down but not out,
Geoff
This was posted to another person who was having power problems. I thought it might help here.
There's a simple and cheap solution you might try before spending a lot of money. And that solution is...
1) Unplug the power supply from the wall and let it power down.
2) Unplug it from the laptop.
3) Remove the battery from the laptop.
4) Holding the power supply cord(the end that plugs into the laptop) look inside the plug and you should see 2 small metal strips. Take a small screw driver and "Gently" pry them up, take care not to over do it as they have to go back over the pin inside the power port.
5) Take the laptop and look down inside the power port and you should see more small metal strips. Using the same screw driver "Gently" pry these metal strips up just enough to raise them just a hair.
6) If possible purchase a can of "CRC" QD Electronic Cleaner.
7) Spray the Power Plug the port and the connections on the battery and the laptop with the cleaner. Note: The cleaner has a very high evaportation rate and leaves no residue, so there's no waiting for it to dry. Well maybe for 20 or 30 seconds.
I was having the same problem. I to thought it was the joint. After talking to a few people that do these kind of repairs and hearing their prices I decided to try an alternate route before dropping that kind of cash. At the time of this post, mine has not given me any more problems. Most people don't realize that over time residue builds up on these contacts and restricts or stops the power flow.
Airbus, check with your original power supply attached if you get any voltage on the most left and most left copper contacts of the docking port. If so, the jack is ok.
It won't run with your higher rated power supply, but will with the lower rated one, even without battery in?
Logman, if you have a pentium, it seems the pin needs to be soldered on both sides of the board.
First up, thanks to all that helped make this thread the colossal thread it is.
Now, I've got the same problem. I managed to hack my way through the top and re-solder the ground pins. The positive one I cant quite reach, but the joint looks great anyway.
After doing this my R3000 runs fine off mains power, it even says the battery is charging, but it stays at a constant 12%. I can't seem to even start the lappy from the battery. I plugged the AC adapter in, and can measure 3.5-4V inside the battery compartment. Is that enough, or should it be higher?
Now, is the motherboard fried? I'm hoping that the positive pin on the other side of the motherboard (intel based), which I can't get access to, will fix the charging problem.
NanoDuke, if the computer runs ok off the adapter, the joints are good, no need to re-solder. One contact of the battery bay should read more, about 15 volts if I remember right. The other ones give a lower read, that's normal.
If another set of contacts gives the 15 volts, your battery might be at the end of it's life. Could also be something crapping out in the power circuitry regulating the charging of the battery.
If you have a 120watts adapter, you might get better results using a 135 watt one, but no guarantee that you will. First check if you can see a higher voltage on the other contacts.
Crap. I'll have to check tomorrow. This system was sold to me as having a new battery, and I believe them, cause the battery is in immaculate condition.
Or could I have fried the battery in the process. Just before soldering I was having a lot of trouble getting the system to boot.
Well I have a 120W adapter, but do I need to get a HP specific brick, or do generic ones exist?
Thanks again for your help.
Generic ones, not to fond of those myself. Often specs are overrated, and for the price, you can get a HP one off ebay.
Before you get another one, check for those voltages @ the battery bay contacts. If you can't get 15V there, another adapter won't help I'm afraid.
Hmmm... well I still could only manage a couple of volts in the compartment.
But then I tried jiggling the cable, and when I pulled it almost out (so that only about 1-2mm of the plug was in the socket) I suddenly got 14V.
But it's too unstable to run off AC that way, so my laptop is off now, charging while halfway out. I'll wait a few hours and see if the battery charges anymore. If so, then I need to pay more attention to the socket.
Hello,
I'm new here and I'm dutch; so excuse is my english is not correct.
I am very happy with this forum, because my Compaq R3039EA had the same powerconection problems.
It costs me about 3 hours to do the repair (resoldering); so in this way I don't have to spend money for a new mobo.
Thanks a lot to everybody.
Han
help ,,,,,,is there another cable that will work on the r3000 other than the xc1000 cable that is hard to find. the xc2000 they say will not work in the r3000 laptop. thanks
| silentfaith wrote : help ,,,,,,is there another cable that will work on the r3000 other than the xc1000 cable that is hard to find. the xc2000 they say will not work in the r3000 laptop. thanks |
No, only that xc1000 or a docking station.
| NanoDuke wrote : Hmmm... well I still could only manage a couple of volts in the compartment.
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I can't get any further with this problem.
Could I have fried my battery?
Is there a way of trying to fix the battery?
It's wierd that the charging light comes on, Windows says it's charging but nothing else happens. It just stays dead.
And all that I did was resolder the jack into place.
Hey,,,i fixed it myself,,,only took off the bottom corner panel where the power jack is ,,taped off a small square in the silver area above the jack and cut it out with a dremel,,this allowed me to put a drop of solder on the worn pin,,,easy and quick
| NanoDuke wrote :
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Windows will say it charges, forever, even if it doesn't charge at all. Did you get the other jack yet, or still the old one? If you have a pentium, check the other side of the board too for a good fix. And yes, that battery may be dead or damaged.
I tried repairing one by putting in new cells, but if 2 cells out of 8 in this case, differ 0,2 volts, the battery electronics crap out, and it won't charge at all. But windows reported it did.
Ah yeah! I can easily try and test the individual cells.
Coolies
OK, here is why the power cord doesnt work.
On the jack on the mother board, they have three prongs, Positive negative, and an anchor. because of the constant plugging and unplugging of the adaptor, it shakes loose the jack, and occaisionally breaks the positive and negative feet on the jack. to fix this, you will need to take the motherboard out of the computer, and resolder the jack. THIS MAY DAMAGE YOUR MOTHERBOARD, SO DO NOT ATTEMPT UNLESS YOU HATE THE COMPUTER AND DONT CARE IF IT IS BROKEN, OR UNLESS YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THIS TYPE OF REPAIR. I took mine to a local repair shop, and has been working great ever since.
I've also had the power jack problem on a zv5000, purchased from eBay from someone I suspect knew about the problem (sold as having a speaker fault only). I got the xc1000 cable this morning and at first it seemed to give the same, well documented unsustained charging problems as the original AC adapter through the power jack. I removed the battery to test if it worked on just AC power (it did), replaced the battery without bothering to power down and its been charging for the past hour via the xc1000 cable.
Anyway, what I wanted to ask is does anyone know what the little pin-headed screws either side of the expansion port are called, and where to get them from. They definitely help hold the xc1000 cable in place but I also wondered if they carry the AC current from the cable into the laptop. The @$*! who sold me this laptop has replaced one of these screws with an ordinary cross-head screw! The cable seems to work but if these 'pin-head' screws carry charge I'd prefer to get a replacement to ensure good electrical contact.
They don't hold a charge. Can you take the one present out and ask at a hardware store, or ask someone who sells r3000 parts (ebay).
I am editing this message in hopes that SOMEONE might try to read the voltages present at the pins on the battery connector, maybe by running with no battery, and using a digital voltmeter to read the voltage present on the pins. I am trying to find which pin the charging voltage should appear on; I would expect it to be in the +15 volt range.....and also what pin is ground. As I have indicated below, my problem was the same as everyone else's (basically in this whole thread), but after resoldering the power connector, my laptop works flawlessly on AC power, but I have no "lightning bolt" on, and the battery shows no charge.
I would be very grateful if someone could post their findings from a WORKING Compaq R3000.
Thanks to all!
Could someone please tell me the pin layout for the battery connector in the Presario R3000?
Like so many other people, I have had to repair the power connector problem on my machine. I would certainly like to thank everyone who posted their experiences on this problem on this forum for the benefit of others. I am an ex telecom worker, so I do computer repair as a hobby/sideline while semi-retired.
The dismantling, soldering of the loose power cord connector went very well ( I did it about a year ago), but I do not get a charge light on the front of the machine; and it won't run at ALL on the battery. ( I have NO idea of the condition of the battery), so I'd like to first of all determine if charging voltage is where is should be on the connector. I do have 19.89 Volts present on the expansion bay contacts.
I have also had a very intermittent problem of losing the wireless feature on the R3000. The cause is the contact strip that connects the motherboard to the small circuit board containing the sound and wireless buttons. I think I have solved that one by removing the motherboard, and also the small "audio and wireless button board"...and then placing about a .005 thickness washer on each of the 2 standoffs and reinstalling the small card. The purpose of the washers is to slightly elevate the card to make the contact much firmer with the motherboard when it is screwed down. Doing this does not interfere with the operation of the various buttons. ( examine the soldering on the small card while you can: I touched up several bad (cold) joints on it as well, but the wireless ones were ok). So far, so good; I have not lost the wireless since that operation.
As an ex Telecom tech here in Alberta, HP test gear used to really GOOD equipment. That was back then; this is NOW. I am having to deal with all manner of HP screw-ups, especially in their all in one printer BLOATED software. I used to recommend HP hardware, but now I am not so sure. GEE, I wonder if letting "off-shore" companies produce almost EVERYTHING we NEED is such a smart idea??? Better not get into the politics of THAT one....
Thanks agin....GREAT forum!!!
Have no more info on the battery bay contacts, than you have, and can't get my voltage meter leads into those small spaces, but they hold several different voltages, 3.3V, 19V (could also been 15V, so long ago). Almost sure he most left one is ground, when watching the bay with the open contacts toward you.
If you put your battery in a freezer for a couple of hours, then in the laptop, it could charge for a minute or so due to the cold, and give you your answer about the charging capability of the laptop.
I need some troubleshooting. I have the same problem.
When I plug it in, it sometimes works, but I have to cram it in and shove it to one side and hold it there to make it work. Merely plugging it in and then moving it when I discover it didn't work won't work. The direction I have to shove it varies in any direction, and seems to change while I have it plugged in and working. I've tried pushing the surrounding pins in so it's a tighter fit, hoping this would fix it, but alas, to no avail. I really do not want to have to completely disassemble the laptop to find that wasn't the solution to my problem.
| xparasite9 wrote : I really do not want to have to completely disassemble the laptop to find that wasn't the solution to my problem. |
If you check the most left and right copper contacts of the docking port connector for voltage, and see the reading fluctuating while wiggling with your dc-in jack, you definitely have to take it apart because it indicates a loose or broken connection.
HI Can someone tell me if this will solve the Compaq Presario R3000 cord issue? Does this bypass the power jack in the back that is loose or not? I can't tell by looking at it on line. I hoped someone here might know.
HP Notebook Quickdock
http://www.shopping.hp.com/product [...] AA%2523ABA
Thank you very much,
Kathy
| kmw1958 wrote : HI Can someone tell me if this will solve the Compaq Presario R3000 cord issue? Does this bypass the power jack in the back that is loose or not? I can't tell by looking at it on line. I hoped someone here might know. HP Notebook Quickdock http://www.shopping.hp.com/product [...] AA%2523ABA Thank you very much, Kathy |
No, not compatible with a R3000.
You want a HP xb1000 Notebook Expansion Base (Expansion Port 1), with built-in speakers, hard to find. Another station is the XB2000, which can fit with an adapter, ask if the adapter comes with the station before buying one.
http://www.techexcess.net/docking-stations_170.aspx
An even better solution is the all-in-one media cable (XC1000), that does the same (without the speakers of course), but is it easier to find oil in your backyard I guess. The last time I saw one on Ebay it was sold in 3.2 seconds.
| logman wrote : So I took it apart. Had a few troubles with some screws being stuck. |
yes. I tried taking it apart a few times. I've noticed some kind of blue stuff on the screws. I guess they.. GLUED THEM IN?!!!! Seriously, who glues the screws in?
| Que wrote : If you check the most left and right copper contacts of the docking port connector for voltage, and see the reading fluctuating while wiggling with your dc-in jack, you definitely have to take it apart because it indicates a loose or broken connection. |
okay, so I *just* did that, and it read over 18 volts and moved around on its own within a range of + .5V fluctuation. when I wiggled the cord I got about a 1 to 2 volt drop. Of course this may have been due to the fact that the leads were too big to fit in the copper contacts, and I was holding both leads in the docking port in one hand, the laptop with the thumb of the other hand, and was jiggling the cord with the remaining fingers of the latter hand.
Put it against a wall or something so you save a thumb, serious, you really want to know if moving the plug will cut off power. ps get the battery out while testing.
If you take out the keyboard, and cut away the metal part most right where the plug is, you might be able to re-solder the pins. Someone here did, not a job to do if you are not experienced in soldering. You only have to touch the wrong part (smd's) and they stick right to your iron.
Hello guys. Since i have also problems with my R3000 connector, I just want to know how to locate the positive and the negative pins of my AMD R3000 connector (I mean pins wich are soldered to the motherboard) and why are there 4 pins.
Thanks.
3 of the 4 are ground pins, which also secure the jack to the board. See "Laptops Restored"'s pics higher on this page.
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