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They are running out fast everywhere. They had several for sale on ebay (techexcess) last weekend, saw a lot of 17 but shipping was too much ($200) from Canada too this weekend. Keep watching ebay, they sometimes do come up as XC1000, DV318A, all-in-one media, etc. Seems teckexcess noticed the rarity of the cable, you can find them pulling back a lot off ebay, once they found out they could ask what they want for it. (see google's cache) They asked me $280 for a cable, dock and shipping! "Demand is high, stocks are low, so prices go up, they explained me".
Docking stations are still available, starting around $50 on ebay, as another option.

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I don't think my computer will work with a docking station. I don't see anywhere it would connect.

Reply to jjb31
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To the same docking port the media cable connects to.
docking at techexcess

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Thanks Que.

I am going with the docking station and hopefully it will work as needed.

Reply to jjb31

We have had the same problem with our R3000. We disassembled the computer, but couldn't find the loose solder joints. We're not too handy with hardware and tools.

I called HP and they offer to refurbish the compter for $300. They sent me a shipping box via FedEx. I returned the box the same day to them. They had it a day and shipped it back to me. I called them Monday and had my computer back on Friday. For the $300, they installed a new Motherboard, fixed the built-in mouse pad and cleaned the keyboard (which has some sticking keys).

Not a cheap fix, but better than the $500 most repair places charge for a new Motherboard or the $300 commercial repair shops want for soldering the power port.

Reply to BostonBlackie
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I want to thank all those who posted on this issue. My R3000 had the same problem that others have experienced. I live in Vermont, and so there is not a wide choice of expertise available. I considered doing the soldering fix myself but did not have sufficient confidence. I went to a local repair place that had already dealt with a Presario with a similar problem. Their fix was to open the laptop and attach a pigtail plug and adapt the power supply cord to attach to it. It is working fine. The cost of the repair (most of this labor for opening the computer) was $130. Perhaps not ideal, but at least I am back in business and the replacement battery I purchased is charging nicely.

Reply to Vter
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Don't think it is a "too much job". If you already have succesfully opened other electric devices, it is not as hard as it looks, specially with the guides in this thread. Soldering did not fix my computer, changing the capacitors might, but I just put it back together after a second total strip, so that is for the next saturday.

Reply to Que
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i have bought a new baatery for 60 bucks and i charged it for 6 hrs. i turned my comp on. It was on ac power at that time.<<< I checked the power management thingy. THE lil blue battery was 100% charged so i unplugged the cord to see how my new battery works... and as u proli knoow. my comp turned off. 60 $$ aaaagh

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if u have answers or wanna talk bout stupid bateries worth 60 bucks im me: heres my aim sn herms023

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heres a tip for all of u who dont want to buy new bateries, comps etc. USE A PIECE OF PAPER (to make it tighter) WHEN U PLUG THE CORD INTO UR COMP> WORKS FOR ME :)

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Hey guys....looks like this problem with the power cord is very common......and it doesnt surprise me a bit considering what i saw on my motherboard last night when i opened my laptop...the soldering was pretty bad, not only for the power pins, but also for other connectors on the board. Anyway, I had time only to fix up the middle power pin (which looked like it lost its solder).

Anyway, if you read the first page of this thread, you will get all the information you need to open your laptop and learn where exactly to solder. And FYI, you HAVE to pull apart the entire laptop - COMPLETELY - till you can see the power connector pins on the top side of the motherboard. It might sound tough, but it was quite simple to do....however, it was very time consuming for me as it was my first time opening a laptop. The manual provided by HP Compaq is all you need....and disassemble each part in the order given in the manual...that's all. Here's a review:

Remove in order:

battery
hard disk
combo drive
strip cover (the strip which has the power button on it - above the keyboard - this one is a tough cookie if your afraid of breaking the piece, but just pry it open from the top after removing the necessary screws under the laptop and ur all set)
keyboard
display (LCD)
Base enclosure (the bottom casing of ur laptop)
speaker
heat sink
and then finally....MOTHERBOARD

Beware, they're a lot of screws, and although the guide was really detailed and i was extra careful about not forgetting any screws, I still missed ONE screw....basically coz I now have a small silver screw left in the box of screws i removed when i first opened the laptop.

My advice: if you are confident about opening your laptop, and know somebody who can solder the pins (I got an electrical engineer friend of mine to help - but you could do it yourself too!!!), this is the best way to go since you save a LOT of money. Also, this way, you get to remove and blow away all that nasty dust that accumulated over the years. Cheers and good luck

-Aravind M.

Reply to achi2k

Hey guys, I found this forum and I too have a Compaq Presario R3000. I wish I had found this page a long time ago but all is well. I too had this problem a year after I purchased my Compaq (it seems as if after the manufacturer warranty goes out everything goes wrong). Same problems except I had to push in my power connector with force until it finally gave out. Fortunally I purchased extended warranty from the store I bought it from and I had my laptop shipped and repaired within a week. They told me it was just something that had to be soldered and all was great.

Reply to jessi3k3

Wow I have been searching for days trying to figure out why my compaq turns off unexpectedly (battery died long ago). And this is definetely the same problem! What a great releif to find links to a dissasemble guide since I couldn't find out how to remove the top/keyboard to get the mainboard fully out.

Thanks a lot guys you've been a great help!

Reply to Mathew83

Hi Everyone!

I am the guy that posted the manual and all my disassembly pictures. Just thought that I would give an update to the 18K+ people that have viewed this posting topic.

The solder joints are bad in a lot of places. Two days ago, I plugged my headset into the R3000 for the first time, and guess what! Bad solder joint. When I fixed the power jack solder joints a few months ago, I also fixed all of the bad solder connections for the sound pushbuttons that had magically stopped working, but did not do the audio plugs. For now, I am not going to take it apart for that.

Today, at work, it appeared that my external power supply died, because the green light was out. When I got home I looked at it and checked the output voltage, which showed zero volts. Then I slammed the power supply on the counter and the light came back on briefly and I had 18 volts output for a few seconds, so I knew that it was not dead. Being the solder joint persecutor, I took it apart and guess what! Bad solder joints all over. 30 minutes to fix that one.

If I was paranoid, I would suspect that a pattern is developing.

In general, there does not appear to be enough solder on high power joints, the solder pads are not big enough for high power joints and all components that interface with the outside of the case, and the solder joints are cold for many connections. It is just a matter of time before they give out.

Shame on you Compaq!

Rod

Reply to rschultz

ok quick question did you guys all take out the entire mainboard when you did the power jack solder or did you just remove the back casing to get at it? I have a r3120 so while it's slightly different the design is bascily the same but I can see the power jack without taking out the motherboard (from underneith, not keyboard side)

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Message edited by deijr1238 on 07-28-2007 at 05:37:22 AM
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I took it down to the level specified ing the manual. This constitutes "ripping it apart". The correct way to do it. Good Luck!

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Message edited by deijr1238 on 07-28-2007 at 05:37:43 AM
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So does the HP DL516a is an expansion base for the r3000 resolve the power jack issue for people? If it does, please let me know!!!!

Reply to minkathebest
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Yes, it does.

Reply to Que

Hi, I have tried this technique of the positive pin. However, even before this was done, I have a connection to the 3 ground and positive. Of course the positive shouldn't be touching the ground.

Could this be the jack itself?

I don't see any possible connections with gnd and + fom the board other than the 4 pins.

Thanks for the help!!

Reply to ibartolo6
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Quote :

Hi, I have tried this technique of the positive pin. However, even before this was done, I have a connection to the 3 ground and positive. Of course the positive shouldn't be touching the ground.

Could this be the jack itself?

I don't see any possible connections with gnd and + fom the board other than the 4 pins.

Thanks for the help!!



Are you saying + and ground are touching causing a short circuit? You could easily measure that with an ohm-meter?
Look at the docking port on the right side of the laptop. The most left and most right contacts (copper ones) can put through power to the computer too, that's why some people with connector problems are helped with a XC1000 all-in-one media cable, or a docking station, because they use the docking port to connect to, and have their own socket to connect the power-adapter to. So you avoid using the dc jack with those.

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Stranger,

I have the same problem with my Compaq Presario R3000, purchased May 2004. For the last several months, the connection to the AC power stops. If I take the AC plug out and shove it back it, just the right way, it starts charging again.

I was about the purchase a new power cord and maybe a new battery when I found this form.

My next action is to call HP, but if they don't take care of the problem, I'll join your class action suit. I am more annoyed than I might be, given I had to replace the hard drive 4 months ago.

Thanks,
Avignon

Reply to avignon

So I am having the same problem as everyone else, and with the help of these posts was able to successfully disassemble my computer with no prior experience.

I got to the motherboard and took a soldering iron to the 4 pins referenced on the 1st page. I got the machine back together and working and I think I have at least improved the power input problem.

Here is my question though - do I need to actually put additional solder on or around the pins, or is what I am trying to accomplish just to remelt the existing connection. Hope that question even makes since, as this is my first ever soldering attempt.

Thank in advance.

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Hi, the solder used is a tiny bit, some extra will add to the secure fitting of the joint. I think it breaks by default because of lack of a proper attaching caused by the soldering method (cold solder) and by using a too less amount of it. Cold solders are fragile, shouldn't be used on joints like dc-inlets that suffer from force being put on them.

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I, too, just completed my power jack repair on my Compaq R3240US, thanks completely to the helpful posts here. Since I, too, had never soldered anything in my life, I was somewhat at a loss as to what to do, even after reading this. I tried heating up the pins and then putting the solder down as per the instructions, but no matter what I did, they didn't get hot enough to melt the solder. Finally, I ended up melting the solder directly against the iron and letting a little plop drip down on to each pin, which I'm sure was the wrong way to do it -- but it ended up doing the trick anyway.

As for remelting an exiting connection, there was almost no solder on my pins at all, so there was nothing to remelt. I melted and scraped away an incredibly thin film that might've been solder, but there was so little of it that it was really impossible to tell. Seems Compaq's workmanship was less than stellar on this machine.

In case anyone else approaches this from the same inexperienced perspective that I did, I was able to get everything I needed at Radio Shack. I got a soldering kit (with solder, iron, and stand), screwdriver set and anti-static wrist strap, all for under $20 total. I looked online and was even able to check to see if each item was in stock. That was helpful, since I needed the equipment immediately.

I printed out chapter five of the Compaq disassembly manual, as well as this image from rschultz's links. I wrote on that picture to keep track of which size screws went back into which holes. There are two screw sizes for almost all parts, although one or two interior screws were unique! I also printed message #60 in this thread, a post by achi2k, which helped me remember what order to do all of this stuff in. Although that post calls for removal of the heat sink itself, that step wasn't necessary for me. Also, the "combo" drive mentioned in the manual assumes that you have a floppy drive along with your DVD/CD drive. As was rschultz's case, I do not, so there was no ribbon cable to disconnect.

Total time spent was about four hours, and the experience wasn't too stressful. The hardest part was getting some of the screws to turn. I used little screwdrivers for the bulk of the job, but had a larger handled one on hand for the tightest screws because the little one just wouldn't budge the things.

This thread was incredibly helpful, by the way. Thanks to everyone who has contributed, I was able to fix my laptop for under $20, instead of either spending $150 on a docking station or spending who knows how much on a repair job. (Plus, I got to clean the cat hair out of my machine... always a plus!) The help was very much appreciated. :)

Reply to Omgee

Hey all,

This is my first post here. I've been reading this thread with interest and I think I have a similar problem, although it may be a little different.

My battery has pretty much died on my Compaq Presario R3000 and now only last for about 20 seconds. Sometimes when moving the laptop around the power cord becomes a little loose at the back and all of a sudden the laptop turns off - no warning of batter low.

I originally put this down to an old battery but having read this thread, could it be an issue with my plug on my motherboard.

I'd appreciate any comments on the above scenario and whether it is the same or different to what people have been experiencing?

Allt he best,
Nick

Reply to reddragon77
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Well, the power cord on my machine has always been a bit loose, and it does come unplugged pretty easily if I move it around. I've heard the same from others, so that's normal, I'd say.

As far as the shutdown issue goes, yes, I'd say your battery is probably dead. Mine only lasted about a year, and again, that seems to be about the norm. The shutdown does happen very quickly, without warning, once the battery gets bad. Mine shows as 99% charged, but then almost immediately drops to 3% ten seconds after I unplug it -- which is enough to trigger an instant standby or shutdown.

So, if it works when it is plugged in, and only shuts down when the machine is moved and the plug comes loose, then you're probably looking at just a battery issue. If, however, your laptop is shutting itself down sporadically even when you have not moved the computer, you may be dealing with the same power cord issue as many of the rest of us have.

But either way, it sounds like your battery is dead.

Hope that helps!

Reply to Omgee
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Hey all,

I jave had the same problem with my R3000. I dissassembled the computer down to the motherboard and tried to solder the 4 prongs. I heated each prong but couldn't get the solder to stick - This is a first try for me so maybe I just need practice.

I reassembled the unit and plugged in the power supply. The lightning bolt light on the front of the computer just flashes and the system will not power up. Anybody have suggestions what to try next? Thanks!

Reply to KenMin
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You better resolder it good, heat them up long enough to get all the solder molten. A good solder is shiny and smooth. If it looks dull and has a rough surface, forget about a good connection. Add solder if you have to, there's not much on it right from the factory. Is your battery still charging, does it run off battery?

Reply to Que
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Quote :

Hey all,I jave had the same problem with my R3000. I dissassembled the computer down to the motherboard and tried to solder the 4 prongs. I heated each prong but couldn't get the solder to stick - This is a first try for me so maybe I just need practice.


My post at the top of this page explains how I handled the same problem. Not the best fix, but it did work for me. In any case, the solder is key to the fix; if there is no visible solder on your prongs, you will not get a connection and your laptop will not receive power.

So, I'd say try it again, and if you can't get the solder to work this time, keep it disassembled and take it to a small local shop and see if you can't get them to solder it for you really quickly. Should be a lot easier -- and cheaper -- than having them disassemble and reassemble your entire laptop.

Good luck!

Reply to Omgee
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Hello,
I'm from Croatia Europe, and i have the same problem with power jack. And i like the idea about law suit, so let's kick their ... . Anyway, i've decided to fix it by my self, but i do not know the real name of power jack (serial number, manufacturer or something), so i can look for it around here and replace it...
I just hang up off the phone talking with the service guy, who told me that if the problem is just for soldering, than the soldering part would be around 30$ but if it's not enough just to solder it than i would have to change whole board...which is more than stupid. Because they are doing it only with original parts, and it's not possible to order any single part except whole board. So i would like to get it to him. And if it's true that they don't have it in this country, i'll order it from e-bay or something.
So if anyone can help??

Anyhow...i have my R3000 (it sounds like a model of borg :lol: ) for at least 3 years, and i have problems with the power for at least last 2yr...First i was thinking that it's because i used to hold my laptop on a small chair, while sitting on floor, but it was only for a couple of weeks period, than the games started...fixing it, moving it, somehow...luckely for me, and the chair, i didn't even think about that the problem is in power cord. If i decide to fix it by myself, i'll post pictures here, regardless of outcome... :oops: So wish me luck...and found out the serial and manufacturer name of power jack...

Reply to bomark
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Maybe you can find the part number on ebay, because a search there gives hundreds of hits. Any store repairing computer/electronic parts should carry them, because they are pretty much standard for Compaq, Gateway, HP, IBM, Packard Bell, eMachine, Fujitsu etc.
http://cgi.ebay.nl/DC-Power-Jack-C [...] dZViewItem

Reply to Que
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You may not need a new power jack. Have you tried resoldering the jack to the board, as per the instructions in this thread? That might fix your problem. I'd try that before ordering the other part, unless you're in a hurry.

Reply to Omgee
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I think, that, because off long time applying power core and trying to fix it in somehow, anyhow, the little contacts inside of jack has been broken. I opened the laptop, two days ago, just to see if I can easy approach to the jack, I just opened the top plastic, where the jack is supposed to be, and saw it inside little better. I really think it's broken. And after that i found this web site...
i've been looking on the e-bay, but can't find any international serial number or name or anything...
I'll try to print a picture, and try to buy it with it, but dimensions would be fine... is it 2,5 mm center pin??
like this one :: LINK

And is it possible that R3000 has different models of board with different jacks?

Reply to bomark
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The jack is not accessible just by removing the top plastic part. You have to disassemble the whole laptop to get to it, as per the instructions provided earlier in this thread.

You can buy a jack if you'd like, but that may not be the problem. Its connection to the motherboard is more likely the issue, and that can be fixed by soldering the existing jack back to the motherboard. I would definitely recommend trying that before ordering something internationally and waiting weeks for it to arrive.

Reply to Omgee

Hey all,

I came across this while doing a google search for what's going on with my computer and I think I'm having a similar problem. I actually have an R4000 model but I'm not sure if that makes a difference.

Basically what happened is I picked my computer up off my desk [power cord still plugged in] and the computer just cut off. So I unplugged the power cord and put it back in and the computer seemed dead. [No light in the front to indicate it recognized the power cord] nor would the computer turn on. So I attempted to turn the computer on without the power cord. The computer turned on just fine with a full battery charge. So while the computer was on and functioning I tried inserting the power cord again and my computer went dead. I tried this several times, all with the same response. So in a nutshell any time the power cord is plugged in my computer goes dead.

Does this sound like a computer issue or an issue with the AC adapter. I called Compaq/HP tonight to try to troubleshoot and of course I'm over my warranty by 45 days. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks :)

Reply to candy_girl
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Candy_girl, that sounds like a different problem than the one discussed here. Is the battery charging when the computer is off and connected to the power supply?

Reply to Omgee

No, anytime I plug the power cord into the computer when it is on it cuts the computer off and it goes dead. And when I plug the power cord in when the computer is already off it does nothing. The light in the front indicating that the power cord is in doesn't light up. And if I try to turn the computer on when the power plug is in it the computer won't come on [almost like the battery is dead].

Reply to candy_girl
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Looks like a short between your powerline and ground of the board or connector. Check the adapter plug and cable, where the cable goes in the plug, for breaches. Got another adapter from a friend maybe, to try?
It might also be the center pin of the dc-in connector, touching ground inside the case. Is the center pin loose? (Try to wiggle it with tweezers, but with the battery out!) More serious if you dislocated the whole connector, and maybe damaged the board itself. I guess you should find someone to take it apart, and do a check/repair, if the fault is not in the adapter plug or cable.

Reply to Que

Just wanted to write in that I've been having the same power problem with my Compaq -- an increasingly common switch to battery. The thought of taking the laptop apart was not pleasant though I've done that with prior Compaq models before, ironically for bad power jack connections.

Despite the trepidation I had from all your descriptions I went ahead and tore it apart. There werent more screws that I thought were necessary and things came apart fairly modularly. There werent a lot of little extraneous tiny pieces -- the keyboard, the back panels, the screen, the motherboard, the disks, not too much more.

I soldered the connector even though I really didnt see cold solder joints. More like maybe inadequate solder. I tried to put my 40w iron to it and all it did was warm up the board. The power planes sucked all the heat away. It was really frustrating to have to leave my eviscerated laptop on my kitchen countertop while I went to hunt for a more powerful iron.

I tried to be vigilant about static especially in this dry winter humidity. I pretouched metal shielding before grabbing any given module. I applied an 80w iron and reflowed the power connectors.

Honestly felt nothing would work when I put it all back together. Its just how it is you know? Out of an array of some 30-40 screws I was left with two to spare. Isnt that always the way?

Anyway, I booted it up, ran it -- now a week later no sign of the problem. So you guys were right and I appreciate you posting your discovery and solutions. It would have been a very unfortunate switch to a desktop if it werent for your diligence in posting your findings. Thanx very much guys.

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Hi guys

I too have been suffering from the r3000 power cord issue so I decided to take the advice on this forum and take apart my laptop to solder on a new connector that I managed to get hold of on ebay.

Everything seemed to go well until I re-assembled my laptop and found that when I turn it on the only things to light up are the power lights on the power button and the front of the laptop, the light on the touchpad and the charging light on the front. The screen remains blank and there does not seem to be any communication with the hard disk. The HD light flashes on at start up but then goes out and nothing else happens. One of the fans seems to power up too.

I spoke to Compaq who have said it'll be $299 for on site repair which i really cant afford right now. Any help or suggestions on this would be very much appreciated

Thanks
Jimbo

Reply to purmus
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Hi, looks like some connector forgotten or some short? Have you checked the cable that goes to the screen, tried an external monitor, see if it will boot from a knoppix live cd, or any other cd or dvd that will boot, a linux version of some kind? Did not forget to put the memory back?
Of nothing helps, you could take it apart again, just leave the processor + frame and heatsink, memory, and an external monitor attached, and try to start it up.

Reply to Que
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Thanks for the reply

I stripped it all down again and had a good look at the connections. Turns out I'd not noticed that the CPU needs to be locked in place using a screwdriver so it was just sat on top of its connection. Doh!!

Anyways. I now have a perfectly operational laptop that charges quite happily. Lets hope it stays that way for a while!

Thanks for your help

Reply to purmus
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hello all... i have had the same problem with my compaq r3000, and just today i finished soldering on my new power jack that i bought off eBay, and guess what! the battery charrges fine now! great...

except now, when i turn on my computer, the screen stays black. the fans start up and the usual lights go on and such. i can eject the cd drive. everything appears to work fine, except the screen stays blank.

in order to make this was the only problem, i plugged in my monitor, however the problem persisted. now, i know the fn + F4 key combo is supposed to switch between internal lcd display and external display, however, this did not help (i had never used this feature previously, so i cannot vouch for its reliability).

i have since taken the computer apart and put it back together again with the same result, even after following the PDF manual to the letter...

any idea what could be wrong guys??? thanks in advance...

Reply to bembo99
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Hope for you the memory isn't seated right, or the processor isn't put right in the socket. Next thing could be a corrupted bios. The other option is you shorted something, and/or killed the video, which is bad coz it means another motherboard is needed.

Reply to Que
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oh boy... yea the memory is in correctly and so is the processor. i have no idea about the bios or video however... both sound serious. any suggestions on what i could try to check these? thanks.

Reply to bembo99
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About the video, an external monitor, but you already tried that. No need to push keys, workes right on boot up if nothing is wrong. You might want to check the internal cable to the lcd. Bad contact maybe, can prevent monitor-out too, but rare. About bios corruption, see if an attached usb-floppy drive is trying to read when you hold the FN and B key on powering up. Alternative keys: Windows-key plus B key.
If lucky (drive light comes on) unzip a bios rompaq (biosupdate file) with winzip or winrar. Keep unpacking till the rar files are all unpacked. Put the phlash.exe, the bios.wph file (rename it to that if named different) and the minidos file on a bootable floppy and let the computer boot from that usb floppy drive with this disk.
If nothing, take the whole board out and try to get it working out of the case.
Are you shure about reseating that processor, applying heatpaste and -sink. Or did you leave the processor on the board while soldering? Running P4 or AMD?

Reply to Que
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thanks for the quick reply... no i cant be sure i reseated the processor (it's a P4) correctly, as this is the first time i have done it. i did everything in the service manual, including the heatpaste. i did leave it on while soldering however. i did not do the job however, my neighbor who is an engineer did it for me. i watched him, and he didnt come close to the processor. is there some way it got corrupted by heat or something?

i have a usb floppy drive, however i could not boot from it. ill try getting it to work out of the case.

thanks again

Reply to bembo99
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For P4's: solder the positive pin on both sides of the board! Hope this solves something, but I'm afraid not.

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