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Victor Pinamont startled all and sundry by ejaculating the following words
of wisdom

> Got it, Numbnuts?

Unfortunatly you don't Victor. Think about it for a while.

--
Rob Singers
"All your Ron are belong to us"

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Malachias Invictus wrote:

> "Arian" <h7zfu9202@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
> news:c5tf95$5l62m$1@ID-92952.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
>>"American morality" is an oxymoron.
>
> Oh yeah? Well, you were singing a different tune when we bailed your ass
> out during World War II...

A) That was over half a century ago.
Nations, like people, change.

B) There was no claim made that "German morality" is not an
oxymoron, which in this decade at least, it certaintly is.

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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 03:59:53 -0400, Sorcier <sNoErMcOier@cavtel.net>
wrote:

>Wayne Shaw wrote:
>
>>
>> But does not have to involve God meaningfully. A deist can view human
>> ethics as entirely different from what God might theoretically like or
>> dislike (or more to the point, consider the latter largely irrelevant
>> to human ethics).
>
>Disagree.
>Ethics that are at odds with natural law do not follow logically in
>even a small 'd' deism. Further, ascribing the distance of an

However, there are issues with ethics that natural law does not relate
to in any meaningful way.

>What you believe about ethics and morality will restrict what you
>can accept as a valid conception of "God".

Actually, it doesn't, unless you have an idiosyncratic definition of
God.

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Sorcier startled all and sundry by ejaculating the following words of
wisdom

> B) There was no claim made that "German morality" is not an
> oxymoron, which in this decade at least, it certaintly is.

Ahem, I think you're actually refering to the German sense of Humour.

--
Rob Singers
"All your Ron are belong to us"

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Rob Singers wrote:

> Sorcier startled all and sundry by ejaculating the following words of
> wisdom
>
>
>>B) There was no claim made that "German morality" is not an
>>oxymoron, which in this decade at least, it certaintly is.
>
>
> Ahem, I think you're actually refering to the German sense of Humour.

No, but partly conceded. "German humor" is an oxymoron also.

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Rob Singers wrote:
>>I'm sorry Ben but what you're reply to me doesn't follow on from what
>>I've said that you're quoting

Ben Sisson wrote:
> Another mistake. The proper response is "I'm sorry Ben but I don't
> understand how your reply to me follows from what I've said", the
> difference of course being the fact you think just because you don't
> see it means its not there.
>
> It's there, Rob. And has been demonstrated.

Ben, Ben, lay off the crack already, before you start seeing more
"Usenet stalkers."
--
Bradd W. Szonye
http://www.szonye.com/bradd

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Ben Sisson, worshipped by llamas the world over, wrote...
> A thousand monkeys banging on keyboards posted the following under the
> name "Bradd W. Szonye" <bradd+news@szonye.com>:
>
> >Rob Singers wrote:
> >>>I'm sorry Ben but what you're reply to me doesn't follow on from what
> >>>I've said that you're quoting
> >
> >Ben Sisson wrote:
> >> Another mistake. The proper response is "I'm sorry Ben but I don't
> >> understand how your reply to me follows from what I've said", the
> >> difference of course being the fact you think just because you don't
> >> see it means its not there.
> >>
> >> It's there, Rob. And has been demonstrated.
> >
> >Ben, Ben, lay off the crack already, before you start seeing more
> >"Usenet stalkers."
>
> Is that so?
>
> Then YOU show where he has proven that people say they're sorry about
> someone's misfortune when they actually mean they're fascinated by it.
>
> I'll be waiting...

Okay, lets do this in baby steps.

Ben, do you understand the difference between saying "some people do X"
and saying "I, personally, do X"? Explain, please, and give three
examples.

(Not the first time I've seen you have problems with very, very simple
distinctions like this... you're another one who'd be in for a rude
awakening as far as your logical ability goes if you took so much as a
simple first-year critical thinking course.)

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A thousand monkeys banging on keyboards posted the following under the
name Jeff Heikkinen <oh@s.if>:

>Ben Sisson, worshipped by llamas the world over, wrote...
>> A thousand monkeys banging on keyboards posted the following under the
>> name "Bradd W. Szonye" <bradd+news@szonye.com>:
>>
>> >Rob Singers wrote:
>> >>>I'm sorry Ben but what you're reply to me doesn't follow on from what
>> >>>I've said that you're quoting
>> >
>> >Ben Sisson wrote:
>> >> Another mistake. The proper response is "I'm sorry Ben but I don't
>> >> understand how your reply to me follows from what I've said", the
>> >> difference of course being the fact you think just because you don't
>> >> see it means its not there.
>> >>
>> >> It's there, Rob. And has been demonstrated.
>> >
>> >Ben, Ben, lay off the crack already, before you start seeing more
>> >"Usenet stalkers."
>>
>> Is that so?
>>
>> Then YOU show where he has proven that people say they're sorry about
>> someone's misfortune when they actually mean they're fascinated by it.
>>
>> I'll be waiting...
>
>Okay, lets do this in baby steps.
>
>Ben, do you understand the difference between saying "some people do X"
>and saying "I, personally, do X"? Explain, please, and give three
>examples.

I'm afraid I'll first have to ask you to demonstrate just how that
possibly connects to anything I said, since it was quite clearly Rob
who said, in context, "I, personally, do X". To help you in your
quest, I'll give you a nice easy to decipher timeline.

1. A link is posted of someone of interest to the newsgroup being in
difficulties.

2. Rob posts he doesn't care.

3. He's called on the callousness of posting that by a number of
people.

4. He gives his explanation of why he thinks those people are
bothered, specifically:

>>>I'd say the reason it bothers people is that they say they care when
>>>they don't, they just have a ghoulish fascination, and someone being
>>>honest about it makes them face themselves. Which they don’t like.

5. He is asked to provide evidence for this conclusion.

6. Rather than answer the question he posts an evasion questioning the
analogy.

7. The challenge is repeated.

8. He continues to try to evade it by locking onto the funeral
comparison, specifically:

>>>It's baseless for you to argue that I'm insensitive at funerals because I
>>>dislike the ghoulish pleasure that people get out of hearing something
>>>bad has happened to someone.

He's insensitive here in this thread, so its not unreasonable to
assume he'd be insensitive elsewhere as well. And that is where it
stands. He still hasn't demonstrated the proof. At best, he's
established that he would be less likely to do the same sort of thing
in a more extreme situation (a funeral he's actually at rather than a
sickness he's commenting on from afar).

Rob has made an argument where he claims he knows what people are
thinking or feeling better than they do. That should be clue #1 that
he's not on solid logical ground.

I will refer you to the following set of posts, that should illuminate
you to my position. They are not from this thread (they are in fact
two James Quick posts with a Terry Austin post in between), so you may
need to put them in google (use advanced search and put them in
message-ID). I think you'll understand the relevence once you read
them. Make sure you do them in order.

<JamesQuick1967-4D8A43.19083624022004@news.verizon.net>
<Xns9499A47E671DDtaustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50>
<JamesQuick1967-3B2F72.00015425022004@news.verizon.net>

Now either you read those posts and now know I am right, or you
didn't, and must answer the question I also asked Bradd and Rob....

>
>(Not the first time I've seen you have problems with very, very simple
>distinctions like this... you're another one who'd be in for a rude
>awakening as far as your logical ability goes if you took so much as a
>simple first-year critical thinking course.)

Oh really.... :-p

--

Magister Mundi sum!

Aughra: Where is he?
Jen: He's dead.
Aughra: Could be anywhere, then.

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Ben Sisson startled all and sundry by ejaculating the following words of
wisdom

>>Does the word Hypocrisy mean anything to you Ben? You'll find it in a
>>Dictionary and if you need help understanding it, I'm sure there are
>>lots of people here who can help.
>
> Feel free. Please illustrate my hypocrisy, if you can.

Ben you've obviously taken stupid pills so I'll explain slowly. I'm not
calling you a hypocrite. The behaviour that I'm describing in people that
refuse to acknowledge exists is hypocrisy. We really can't have an
meaningful conversation until you look it up in a dictionary and reflect
back on this thread. However if you're merely post whoring keep going so
people can derive ghoulish pleasure from watching someone pour their
credibility down the toilet.

--
Rob Singers
"All your Ron are belong to us"

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 06:35:52 GMT, Ben Sisson
<ilkhanikeDIESPAM@yahoo.ca> carved upon a tablet of ether:

> He's insensitive here in this thread, so its not unreasonable to
> assume he'd be insensitive elsewhere as well. And that is where it
> stands. He still hasn't demonstrated the proof. At best, he's
> established that he would be less likely to do the same sort of thing
> in a more extreme situation (a funeral he's actually at rather than a
> sickness he's commenting on from afar).
>
> Rob has made an argument where he claims he knows what people are
> thinking or feeling better than they do. That should be clue #1 that
> he's not on solid logical ground.

Now apply this to your statement above: "He's insensitive here in this
thread, so its not unreasonable to assume he'd be insensitive
elsewhere as well."

--
Rupert Boleyn <rboleyn@paradise.net.nz>
"Just because the truth will set you free doesn't mean the truth itself
should be free."

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"Rob Singers" <rsingers@finger.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sorcier startled all and sundry by ejaculating the following words of
> wisdom
>
> > B) There was no claim made that "German morality" is not an
> > oxymoron, which in this decade at least, it certaintly is.
>
> Ahem, I think you're actually refering to the German sense of Humour.

Which one: bile, phlegm, or blood?

--
^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishment the scroll,
I am the Master of my fate:
I am the Captain of my soul.

from _Invictus_, by William Ernest Henley

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Out from under a rock popped Malachias Invictus and said

> See what I told you, Rob? It *is* easy to post-whore here. C'mon you
> guys, you *have* to know your chains are being "Yanked" a bit ;-)

:-)

--
Rob Singers
"All your Ron are belong to us"
Credo Elvem ipsum etiam vivere

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Out from under a rock popped Gene Poole and said

>> > > > "American morality" is an oxymoron.
>> > >
>> > > Oh yeah? Well, you were singing a different tune when we bailed
>> > > your ass out during World War II...
>> >
>> > Yeah, but we saved ~your~ ass in World War III!
>>
>> That is nothing but revisionism on your part.
>
> That's true.

I'd also like to point out that American's could only save their own asses.
In the rest of the world they're Arses.

--
Rob Singers
"All your Ron are belong to us"
Credo Elvem ipsum etiam vivere

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"Tina Hall" <T.Hall@railroad.robin.de> wrote in message
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> > [...] However if you're merely post whoring keep going so people
> > can derive ghoulish pleasure from watching someone pour their
> > credibility down the toilet.
>
> Oh, please do. I'm definitely entertained. <g>
>
> (Only started lurking here because I wanted to find out whether
> computer AD&D games were ok, too. Still wondering...)
>
> Btw., who's EGG?

Gary Gygax considered by many the grandfather of FRPGs.

peace,
Frank

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Out from under a rock popped Insane Ranter and said

>> I'd also like to point out that American's could only save their own
>> asses. In the rest of the world they're Arses.
>>
>
> Atleast we're able to save our own without help...

Bah. We were busy giving Rommel what for.

--
Rob Singers
"All your Ron are belong to us"
Credo Elvem ipsum etiam vivere

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:15:22 -0700, "Malachias Invictus"
<capt_malachias@hotmail.com> carved upon a tablet of ether:

>
> "Rupert Boleyn" <rboleyn@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
> newscu580lalgpurespcj6squ69309c241nu0@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 11:03:11 -0700, "Malachias Invictus"
> > <capt_malachias@hotmail.com> carved upon a tablet of ether:
> >
> > > > "American morality" is an oxymoron.
> > >
> > > Oh yeah? Well, you were singing a different tune when we bailed your
> ass
> > > out during World War II...
> >
> > That would _after_ the Japs blew away a large tonnage of expensive
> > ships and killed quite a number of your people, no?
> >
> > Didn't see you come riding to the rescue of the Chinese, either.
>
> That is because I was hiding in the bushes with a sniper rifle.

That won't rescue anyone, I'm afriad.

--
Rupert Boleyn <rboleyn@paradise.net.nz>
"Just because the truth will set you free doesn't mean the truth itself
should be free."

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Out from under a rock popped Insane Ranter and said

>> > Atleast we're able to save our own without help...
>>
>> Bah. We were busy giving Rommel what for.
>
> I wasn't aware that you were at war with Germany again?

Oh you're talking currently. I'd submit then that you can't even find
your own asses with both hands. You can't even subdue populations more
than 25 years behind you in terms of technology, let alone your own
loony citizens.

--
Rob Singers
"All your Ron are belong to us"
Credo Elvem ipsum etiam vivere

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Out from under a rock popped Insane Ranter and said

> Atleast our teeth are straight and don't look like scenes from some B
> horror movie

You have no teeth Bubba and I have the photo to prove it.

--
Rob Singers
"All your Ron are belong to us"
Credo Elvem ipsum etiam vivere

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:48:34 -0400, "Insane Ranter" <whoo@hooo.me>
wrote:

>"Robert Singers" <rsingers@finger.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns94D18D8493483rsingers@IP-Hidden...
>> Out from under a rock popped Insane Ranter and said
>>
>> >> > Atleast we're able to save our own without help...
>> >>
>> >> Bah. We were busy giving Rommel what for.
>> >
>> > I wasn't aware that you were at war with Germany again?
>>
>> Oh you're talking currently. I'd submit then that you can't even find
>> your own asses with both hands. You can't even subdue populations more
>> than 25 years behind you in terms of technology, let alone your own
>> loony citizens.
>>
>
>Atleast our teeth are straight and don't look like scenes from some B horror
>movie

You're Canadian?

--
When in doubt, RTFM.
(Unless it's MOO3)

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"First Prophet of Kaos" <kaos@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:48:34 -0400, "Insane Ranter" <whoo@hooo.me>
> wrote:
>
> >"Robert Singers" <rsingers@finger.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:Xns94D18D8493483rsingers@IP-Hidden...
> >> Out from under a rock popped Insane Ranter and said
> >>
> >> >> > Atleast we're able to save our own without help...
> >> >>
> >> >> Bah. We were busy giving Rommel what for.
> >> >
> >> > I wasn't aware that you were at war with Germany again?
> >>
> >> Oh you're talking currently. I'd submit then that you can't even find
> >> your own asses with both hands. You can't even subdue populations more
> >> than 25 years behind you in terms of technology, let alone your own
> >> loony citizens.
> >>
> >
> >Atleast our teeth are straight and don't look like scenes from some B
horror
> >movie
>
> You're Canadian?

No sorry. My country would take more than the LAPD, Girl Scout Troop 34, and
a VW full of angry drunk migets in clown suits to take it over....

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"Rob Singers" <rsingers@finger.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sorcier startled all and sundry by ejaculating the following words of
> wisdom
>
> > Why are we talking about the Irish, Scottish, and Argentines?
>
> Irish, Scots, and Argentineans maybe?
>

Better than you Welsh

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"No 33 Secretary" <taustin+usenet@hyperbooks.com> wrote in message
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> "Malachias Invictus" <capt_malachias@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1088nbpt721es57@corp.supernews.com:
>
> >
> > "Rupert Boleyn" <rboleyn@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
> > newscu580lalgpurespcj6squ69309c241nu0@4ax.com...
> >> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 11:03:11 -0700, "Malachias Invictus"
> >> <capt_malachias@hotmail.com> carved upon a tablet of ether:
> >>
> >> > > "American morality" is an oxymoron.
> >> >
> >> > Oh yeah? Well, you were singing a different tune when we bailed your
> > ass
> >> > out during World War II...
> >>
> >> That would _after_ the Japs blew away a large tonnage of expensive
> >> ships and killed quite a number of your people, no?
> >>
> >> Didn't see you come riding to the rescue of the Chinese, either.
> >
> > That is because I was hiding in the bushes with a sniper rifle.
> >
> They key word being "hiding," not "using."

I never had a clear shot.

--
^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishment the scroll,
I am the Master of my fate:
I am the Captain of my soul.

from _Invictus_, by William Ernest Henley

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"Robert Singers" <rsingers@finger.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Out from under a rock popped Gene Poole and said
>
> >> > > > "American morality" is an oxymoron.
> >> > >
> >> > > Oh yeah? Well, you were singing a different tune when we bailed
> >> > > your ass out during World War II...
> >> >
> >> > Yeah, but we saved ~your~ ass in World War III!
> >>
> >> That is nothing but revisionism on your part.
> >
> > That's true.
>
> I'd also like to point out that American's could only save their own
asses.
> In the rest of the world they're Arses.

Good one.

--
^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishment the scroll,
I am the Master of my fate:
I am the Captain of my soul.

from _Invictus_, by William Ernest Henley

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>
>Atleast we're able to save our own without help...
>

Tell that to Lafayette.

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"Malachias Invictus" <capt_malachias@hotmail.com> wrote in
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>
> "No 33 Secretary" <taustin+usenet@hyperbooks.com> wrote in message
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>> "Malachias Invictus" <capt_malachias@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:108aeqc87jk1t45@corp.supernews.com:
>>
>> >
>> > "No 33 Secretary" <taustin+usenet@hyperbooks.com> wrote in message
>> > news:Xns94D0A7ABAFA79taustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50...
>> >> "Malachias Invictus" <capt_malachias@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> >> news:1088nbpt721es57@corp.supernews.com:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > "Rupert Boleyn" <rboleyn@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
>> >> > newscu580lalgpurespcj6squ69309c241nu0@4ax.com...
>> >> >> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 11:03:11 -0700, "Malachias Invictus"
>> >> >> <capt_malachias@hotmail.com> carved upon a tablet of ether:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > > "American morality" is an oxymoron.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Oh yeah? Well, you were singing a different tune when we bailed
>> >> >> > your
>> >> > ass
>> >> >> > out during World War II...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That would _after_ the Japs blew away a large tonnage of expensive
>> >> >> ships and killed quite a number of your people, no?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Didn't see you come riding to the rescue of the Chinese, either.
>> >> >
>> >> > That is because I was hiding in the bushes with a sniper rifle.
>> >> >
>> >> They key word being "hiding," not "using."
>> >
>> > I never had a clear shot.
>> >
>> Yeah, well, when you cover your head with a box, it's hard to see.
>
> She wasn't *that* loose, Terry.
>
Rather my point, yes?

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