Bye Bye PC, Just Got PS3 - Page 4 - Console-Gaming

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To the OP:

Contrary to popular belief, PC's aren't only for games.

Now maybe the PS3 can do *some* of this, but when you say bubye to the PC, you say bubye to :

* Word (word processing)
* Excel (spreadsheet)
* Powerpoint (presentation creation... not all of us are in elementary school... some of us work with things besides crayons)
* Calendar + cellular telephone sync
* Photoshop/PSP/Neat Image/editing photos that you took on your camera
* Studio 9/Video editing software taken with camcorder
* Quicken+TurboTax/online banking. Someday, you'll have to keep track of more than your lunch money and you'll know what I mean.
* Polar HRM (Heart rate monitor) software for tracking your workouts/fitness
* Scanner+scanner software. Whether it be photos, books, or bills
* HiDef QAM enabled tuner/recorder/playback for viewing recording HDTV broadcasts on my 37" HDTV LCD
* Normal Tuner for recording/playback normal broadcasts to HDTV
* CD extraction and backup and compression to hi quality MP3
* MP3 management for MP3 player (ipod or other)
* DVD extraction and backup
* Maps/Mapping programs for roads/topos. Create routes/tracks/waypoints/mapsets for road trips and backpack trips.
* Connect to work so we dont have to drive in.
* Software development

I could go on. I have about 40 programs that I use more or less daily to monthly. Sorry, but the PS3 just isn't going to replace a PC for this stuff in the immediate future. Could it someday? Yes. Do I expect that day to be any time in the next 3 years? NO.

Right now, the thing is *barely* a game console. It's nowhere near a PC replacement.

Reply to rdhood

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If he is done with PC's .... then someone needs to close his account with THG. Go join PS3forums.com or something.

Dude, here is a hint to what the hype is about.

Reply to sunangel

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Dude, here is a hint to what the hype is about.

That is pretty much the only reason i would ever even consider getting a PS3. Linux is awesome, Linux on a game console is even more awesome, Linux that is being developed for a game console with the blessing of the console maker is the epitome of awesome.

Reply to apt403

Wow.
Sony is so desperate to sell over priced, way-too-late PS3's they're sending shills into PC forums now?

Reply to turpit

That and creating fake blogs posing as real people that are run by advertising companies. Die Sony!!!! :twisted:

Reply to dean7

I really enjoyed reading the report that the 360 out-sold both the Wii and PS3. It makes me really wonder how much the PS3 would have sold if it weren't constrained by production problems.

Reply to ajfink

PS3 is a well known "flop", its been a disapointment all around. & loads have been traded in already.

and ive gone from a sony fanboy to a xbox junky.

although XBox360 & PS3 have very nice graphics (better then PC in my opinion.) the fact we have 8800GTX cards & Direct X10 graphics around the corner, in a couple of months time xbox360 & ps3 will both be put on the back burner for gaming compared to PC, once again.

but even tho PCs are going to go flying ahead of consoles again, the xbox360 is the only console i know of that will eventually interface with Windows Vista. (Score 1 for Xbox360)

anyone who says "OMG I JUST GOT A PS3!!!!! IT TOTALLY ROX0R'S IM QUITTING PCS FOREVERRRR!" is just plain... stupid.

and personally i think im placing my money on HD-DVD rather then Blu-Ray.
(before ppl say "bluray is so far superior to hd-dvd" blablabla, Betamax was actually superior to VHS.)

Reply to Blank2k2

A: You actually FOUND one?
B: It actually WORKS? (I've never had to bios flash any PC product right out of the box, just to make it work right. . .although it's possible others may have) With a PC at least you can replace the PART of it that goes wrong. Try opening your PS3 and replacing anything inside when the thing goes bad.
C: Personal preference aside - what is the PS3 touting mostly - graphics and high definition, right? Most side-by-side comparisons don't show the PS3 offereing any superior graphics to the X360. Wii's graphics aren't as good, but the games are MUCH more fun and it's less than half the price. Aside from that, without a 2000$ tv that can even SHOW 1080p, the investment in the PS3 can hardly be worth it.
D: I've never understood why I should pay 2000$ for a high definintion console when I can have a real barn-burner of a PC for that price. I say 2000 because there's 600$ for the PS3, $200 for games, an extra controller and HDMI cables, and then 1200$ for the cheapest high-def television I can find.

PS3 is over-priced, over-rated and largely irrelevant. . .IMO

-J

Reply to jnjkele

sorry to pick this out but what comp are you comparing the gfx to. i have not seen any evidence that a ps3 or xbox can display gfx better especially as overall the hardware is less powerful. can you show screen shots or something.

TBH i doubt a console can display better gfx than even my own machine. if you mean individual games look good on the consoles fine, but please mention games and not actual consoles being more powerful unless you can back it up. again sorry to nag but this groundless opinions cause alot of confusion. it might seema bit kettle calling the pt black as my own arguments are based largely on my own opinions.

Reply to strangestranger

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I believe the spelling is "they're".

Not for how he used it... :-) He wasn't saying "they are" he was saying their, as in belonging to. There. We done?

Reply to RyanMicah

Well,

Between the consoles, the 360 has more potential IMO. I has a much stronger GPU, which, will be the largest factor to visual quality of games. The PS3 has some interesting features, but, if I bought it, it would be to play games and not to screw around with linux on a console. Shouldn't we be buying based on which one would be the best for playing games?

wes

Reply to weskurtz81

I've got to say that there isn't a single computer or console that we haven't all had issues with...from the blue screens of death, to blowing into our Nintendos...to Xbox live mysteriously disconnecting us...not to mention the stupid modders on Halo2. As if you never played an old computer game and it didn't freeze up on you at least once. The PS3 was rushed, ok...but let's put the bite where it belongs...on the crotchal region of the software developers. Now THEY rush things. EA crap for dinner anyone?

Reply to RyanMicah

Yeah... PS3 is pretty much a flop so far. It upset me, because I loved the PS2. Sure, the gfx weren't as good as PC (or even xbox really) but the games were great. Sony has lost even it's deadlock on the games market, because the Final Fantasy series and some other heavy-hitters have moved away from Sony exclusivity. It was when my PS2 broke on me and my xbox kept going strong that I started to think "hmm... maybe this ISN'T so cool".

Reply to dean7

Oh, and one other thing about the PS3:

I played a racing game on it and the frame rates seemed low to my eye (of course I couldn't install FRAPS on the thing to test it). The controls were also weird and seemed a bit laggy (e.g. you go to turn your car and it seems sluggish and strange, not like a simulator but like the CPU is crapping out in NFSMW because you have your res too high).

Reply to dean7

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I believe the spelling is "they're".

Not for how he used it... :-) He wasn't saying "they are" he was saying their, as in belonging to. There. We done?

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1. Buy a wii there better

Nope. It's "they're", not their.

Anyway, I cannot believe this thread is 7 pages long already.

Reply to NMDante

Its interesting how much of this is going to turn out to be perspective in the long run, when all the cards have been played.

Are consoles going to replace PCs? How, by assuming more of the capabilities of the PC. How can they do that? By becoming more flexible, like a PC?

Hmmm
The console's flexability is increasing. That seems like an reasonable assessment
The console's capabilities are expanding. That seems like an reasonable assessment
Consoles are relying more and more on PC industry tech components. Arguable
Consoles prices are going up. Nothing to debate there

Debatable persective: Consoles are turning into Sony/MS versions of the next generation of 'Dell', 'HP' etc el-cheapo gaming PC systems, not replacing PCs.

Reply to turpit

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Anyway, I cannot believe this thread is 7 pages long already.

Hell, why not. Nothing spectacularly new in CPUs at the moment and all the postulating of next gen stuff and Uarch has been beaten to death. Nothing to do but wait...... and pick on console shills with sac enough to praise PS3 ( :roll: ) in the CPU forum :wink:

Reply to turpit

I think that if these consoles have the ablility to check email, and do some mundane stuff, it can be more like an "all-in-one" center for the home.

I mean, you can have a system that can play games, read/play DVDs, surf the internet (via USB/Bluetooth keyboard/mouse), and do little things like word, email, etc. That seems possible in the immediate future. But you'd have to incorporate a larger storage system for any downloads/emails/etc. That might add to the cost. Then you'd have to consider how viable would an upgrade to the next system would be, and how to transfer any data from the old unit to the new one.

I would think that XBox 360 would be the first to really try to incorporate this, with MS backing it. Sony would be the next, then Wii would have to have an addon DVD before being able to be the "all in one" solution.

Overall, it can be something that can do all those things, but will it happen, depends on MS, Sony, and Nintendo.

Reply to NMDante

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I think that if these consoles have the ablility to check email, and do some mundane stuff, it can be more like an "all-in-one" center for the home.

I mean, you can have a system that can play games, read/play DVDs, surf the internet (via USB/Bluetooth keyboard/mouse), and do little things like word, email, etc. That seems possible in the immediate future. But you'd have to incorporate a larger storage system for any downloads/emails/etc. That might add to the cost. Then you'd have to consider how viable would an upgrade to the next system would be, and how to transfer any data from the old unit to the new one.

I would think that XBox 360 would be the first to really try to incorporate this, with MS backing it. Sony would be the next, then Wii would have to have an addon DVD before being able to be the "all in one" solution.

Overall, it can be something that can do all those things, but will it happen, depends on MS, Sony, and Nintendo.

Ahhhh!!
But consider the PC. Isnt it already the "all in one" center for the home right now?
Also consider emulators, allowing you to play console games on PCs (although the xbox emulators still suc, Wii and PS3 dont exist yet)
Now consider that if you can connect to the internet to plays games on a console, its any easy skip to add the feature of checking email (at least with xbox) with as you point out add on keyboards mouse etc. How difficult would it be to adapt a console to access/utilize a NAS?

Back to the original 'ponderance': Are consoles going to replace PCs, or become PCs?

Reply to turpit

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Ahhhh!!
But consider the PC. Isnt it already the "all in one" center for the home right now?
Also consider emulators, allowing you to play console games on PCs (although the xbox emulators still suc, Wii and PS3 dont exist yet)
Now consider that if you can connect to the internet to plays games on a console, its any easy skip to add the feature of checking email (at least with xbox) with as you point out add on keyboards mouse etc. How difficult would it be to adapt a console to access/utilize a NAS?

Back to the original 'ponderance': Are consoles going to replace PCs, or become PCs?

True, but a PC is not an "out of the box" setup as an all around system.

With a console, a company can add all the necessary components to surf the net, play their games, and do other things as soon as the consumer removes and sets it up out of the box. With a PC, unless it's an HTPC system, you'd have to add on a TV tuner card, get the software to emulate a console system, and find the ROMs.

Not saying that a PC cannot accomplish most of what people might be looking for in an all around system, but for most, it's a daunting task to setup a PC as the "all in one" system. Of course, the newer media center PCs are making them easier, but the software is still immature, imo, especially with MCE 2005. Vista might help, but I doubt it very much.

I don't think the console will become the all around system that MS and Sony think it will (Nintendo isn't mentioned due to lack of DVD), mostly because when a new version of the company's console is released, how would one transfer information from one unit to the other? And will it be compatible?

To answer your question - I think the consoles will slowly develop into PCs, with limited upgradable units.

Reply to NMDante

Garbage, pure Garbage

Reply to nprevatt

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sorry to pick this out but what comp are you comparing the gfx to. i have not seen any evidence that a ps3 or xbox can display gfx better especially as overall the hardware is less powerful. can you show screen shots or something.

TBH i doubt a console can display better gfx than even my own machine. if you mean individual games look good on the consoles fine, but please mention games and not actual consoles being more powerful unless you can back it up. again sorry to nag but this groundless opinions cause alot of confusion. it might seema bit kettle calling the pt black as my own arguments are based largely on my own opinions.

well i have xbox360.... Gears Of War, graphics... incredable.
ive played 100s of PC Games (granted none recently, except for oblivion), but compairing GoW & Oblivion is like comparing Steak & Fries,

Oblivion on PC is impressive, but it has its faults. (Forests are impressive)
but GoW graphics are just polished to the max & always get a quality FPS.

granted im only using a 6800GT graphics card atm (new PC as soon as ATI releases there DX10 card).

im only using GoW for the example since this is "the" microsoft game for xbox360 & its graphics are brilliant, but its made all the other xbox360 games ive got look like old counterstrike in terms of graphics, its spoilt me

but i beleive DirectX 10 games will put PC's back on top.

also yeah the hardware maybe less powerful on consoles but its dedicated & theres no background processes etc, so u can get alot more bang out of a console compared to a PC in terms of spec.

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Yeah... PS3 is pretty much a flop so far. It upset me, because I loved the PS2. Sure, the gfx weren't as good as PC (or even xbox really) but the games were great. Sony has lost even it's deadlock on the games market, because the Final Fantasy series and some other heavy-hitters have moved away from Sony exclusivity. It was when my PS2 broke on me and my xbox kept going strong that I started to think "hmm... maybe this ISN'T so cool".

i was following PS3 for years on the net, but recently (August) i got an xbox360, simpley because i saw the last 2 E3 Sony displays & i felt they were very amatuerly done, and in 2005 they made the console sound incredable.... dual hdmi / built in router function / 3 colors / boomerang controler + other things made it sound like it will be the best system ever......

then in 2006 it shows 1 hdmi (cable sold seperately), no router function + other things taken away, and goes back to the standard controler (cept with motion detection, wii..) with lack of rumble feature.

in all in i felt Sony were lying thru there teeth that this console they were displaying (ALL rendered videos btw, none actual gameplay) was being made out to be the HD Console & trying to make xbox360 look like the old VHS. (Example)

anyway, ive bought xbox360 & not regreted it.... esspecially now ive seen screenshot comparisons of XBox360 Vs PS3 & i cant see much differance. (there pretty much the same give or take a shadow/light)

Reply to Blank2k2

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Ahhhh!!
But consider the PC. Isnt it already the "all in one" center for the home right now?
Also consider emulators, allowing you to play console games on PCs (although the xbox emulators still suc, Wii and PS3 dont exist yet)
Now consider that if you can connect to the internet to plays games on a console, its any easy skip to add the feature of checking email (at least with xbox) with as you point out add on keyboards mouse etc. How difficult would it be to adapt a console to access/utilize a NAS?

Back to the original 'ponderance': Are consoles going to replace PCs, or become PCs?

True, but a PC is not an "out of the box" setup as an all around system.

With a console, a company can add all the necessary components to surf the net, play their games, and do other things as soon as the consumer removes and sets it up out of the box. With a PC, unless it's an HTPC system, you'd have to add on a TV tuner card, get the software to emulate a console system, and find the ROMs.

Not saying that a PC cannot accomplish most of what people might be looking for in an all around system, but for most, it's a daunting task to setup a PC as the "all in one" system. Of course, the newer media center PCs are making them easier, but the software is still immature, imo, especially with MCE 2005. Vista might help, but I doubt it very much.

I don't think the console will become the all around system that MS and Sony think it will (Nintendo isn't mentioned due to lack of DVD), mostly because when a new version of the company's console is released, how would one transfer information from one unit to the other? And will it be compatible?

To answer your question - I think the consoles will slowly develop into PCs, with limited upgradable units.

Excellent points! The only thing I would disagree with to some extent is the "out of box" PC setup. Dell currently offers system options allowing the user to customize their PC, including the option for television. Now, honestly, "dude, its a dell" :roll: , and is it really going to be as easy to set up as a console? :lol: No!, so in thoery I disagree because you can purchase systems which "should" be easy to set up as advertised, but in practicality do not, so I do agree.

I am also of the opinion that consoles will become 'easy' PCs, modularly upgradable.

As for transfering info, that problem could be circumvented to some extent through modularity/online service. Using a NAS, or similar concept, simply store all critical information, setup/preferences on the NASish module. When upgrading or replacing the storage module, transfer the data to online storage, then back to the new unit, or simply establish standardization for unit to unit transfers.

Reply to turpit

Yeah, it really pissed me off that Sony was selling the PS3 as the most amazing console ever, then it comes out and it's like "gee, a $650 xbox 360 with Blu-Ray... just what I wanted!". Plus, them saying it would replace PCs was just completely uncalled for (especially since Sony still makes PCs). I was excited about it for a long time, but after a bunch of BS promises and Sony fiasco's (e.g. fake "fan blogs" and whatnot) I've decided that I will buy Wii or XB360 if I buy a gaming console (I am a PC gamer primarily).

Oh, and GoW looks better than anything I've seen on the PS3 to date. If you have a nice HDTV that game looks freaking awesome (I hooked it up to a Dell 2405FPW and it looks freaking great... also looks good on my girl's 42in HDTV). Those motion blur effects are amazing.

Reply to dean7

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Yeah, it really pissed me off that Sony was selling the PS3 as the most amazing console ever, then it comes out and it's like "gee, a $650 xbox 360 with Blu-Ray... just what I wanted!". Plus, them saying it would replace PCs was just completely uncalled for (especially since Sony still makes PCs). I was excited about it for a long time, but after a bunch of BS promises and Sony fiasco's (e.g. fake "fan blogs" and whatnot) I've decided that I will buy Wii or XB360 if I buy a gaming console (I am a PC gamer primarily).

Oh, and GoW looks better than anything I've seen on the PS3 to date. If you have a nice HDTV that game looks freaking awesome (I hooked it up to a Dell 2405FPW and it looks freaking great... also looks good on my girl's 42in HDTV). Those motion blur effects are amazing.

But Dean.....its a Sony...cmon, doesnt that count for anything? :lol:

Reply to turpit

After thinking about the transferablility of information from one unit to another, I forgot about standalone portable HDs. They could be used for this reason, I suppose.

And yes, I did take into consideration the pre-built systems, but most don't have S-video/composite outputs, but a single DVI, which some TVs don't have. Now, newer LCD/DLP/Plasma TVs do have a VGA/DVI or even HDMI, but most HTPCs aren't equiped with HDMI out of the box. And most people won't want to watch TV or surf from their couch squinting at a 22"-30" LCD when they might have a nice 46"-50+" LCD/DLP/Plasma sitting nearby.

Again, I stand with my belief that consoles won't become the all around entertainment center unit, until they are able to upgrade without having to buy an entirely new unit. If, as you say, they become modularly upgradeable, then, they could give the PC a run for it's money.

Reply to NMDante

They are already on their way to limited upgradeable units I think. Xbox's HD-DVD player add-on is an example. Plus, Wii supports SD flash memory (good for them) and I have heard that the PS3 can use any SATA drive. They are already starting to adopt PC standards, so I think your observation is a sound one.

Reply to dean7

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Oh, and GoW looks better than anything I've seen on the PS3 to date. If you have a nice HDTV that game looks freaking awesome (I hooked it up to a Dell 2405FPW and it looks freaking great... also looks good on my girl's 42in HDTV). Those motion blur effects are amazing.

ive got a 26" HD Screen & a 32" HD Screen.... obviously the 32" is best but GoW looks....amazing on both

not seen it without HD, tho my friend who was using a none-hd display for awhile said the graphics are amazing.... then he got HD display & said its incredabley amazing

Reply to Blank2k2

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They are already on their way to limited upgradeable units I think. Xbox's HD-DVD player add-on is an example. Plus, Wii supports SD flash memory (good for them) and I have heard that the PS3 can use any SATA drive. They are already starting to adopt PC standards, so I think your observation is a sound one.

Yeah, I totally forgot about the XBox 360's external HD-DVD (even though I am tempted to get one for my PC).

I think that if the consoles can stablize it's upgrading of entire units to a few modular units a year, it could be a viable alternative to the PC. But if the requirement for consoles remains buying entirely new units every other year or so, it may not be as viable. But again, I didn't think people would be willing to pay $600+ for a gaming unit (blu-ray drive or not).

Reply to NMDante

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Yeah, it really pissed me off that Sony was selling the PS3 as the most amazing console ever, then it comes out and it's like "gee, a $650 xbox 360 with Blu-Ray... just what I wanted!". Plus, them saying it would replace PCs was just completely uncalled for (especially since Sony still makes PCs). I was excited about it for a long time, but after a bunch of BS promises and Sony fiasco's (e.g. fake "fan blogs" and whatnot) I've decided that I will buy Wii or XB360 if I buy a gaming console (I am a PC gamer primarily).

Oh, and GoW looks better than anything I've seen on the PS3 to date. If you have a nice HDTV that game looks freaking awesome (I hooked it up to a Dell 2405FPW and it looks freaking great... also looks good on my girl's 42in HDTV). Those motion blur effects are amazing.

But Dean.....its a Sony...cmon, doesnt that count for anything? :lol:
Yes, yes... I forgot about the reason that companies like Sony and Apple are still in existence. :twisted:

Reply to dean7

Still not a fan of ps3, but congrats.

Reply to reconviperone1

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granted im only using a 6800GT graphics card atm (new PC as soon as ATI releases there DX10 card).

While we're on the subject, it should be their, not there or they're.

Reply to zornundo

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Yeah, I totally forgot about the XBox 360's external HD-DVD (even though I am tempted to get one for my PC).

I think that if the consoles can stablize it's upgrading of entire units to a few modular units a year, it could be a viable alternative to the PC. But if the requirement for consoles remains buying entirely new units every other year or so, it may not be as viable. But again, I didn't think people would be willing to pay $600+ for a gaming unit (blu-ray drive or not).

Well, I don't really think people were that willing. The PS3 has had a pathetic launch compared to the Wii, and it has been out longer. I can walk in to both gaming stores in my local mall and buy a PS3 with no problems, but they have 0 Wiis. One place even had a sign up that said "We don't have any Wiis, and we don't know when we will get another shipment, so please don't ask".

Anyway, the PS3 was big news right when it came out, but now that it is overheating and whatnot, people are probably just pissed. I know I would be mad if I spend $1,500 on eBay for a PS3 (or waited in line for a week) and it died on me from overheating. If that same console was already not the craze 2 weeks later, I would be super pissed. :lol:

Reply to dean7

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They are already on their way to limited upgradeable units I think. Xbox's HD-DVD player add-on is an example. Plus, Wii supports SD flash memory (good for them) and I have heard that the PS3 can use any SATA drive. They are already starting to adopt PC standards, so I think your observation is a sound one.

Yeah, I totally forgot about the XBox 360's external HD-DVD (even though I am tempted to get one for my PC).

I think that if the consoles can stablize it's upgrading of entire units to a few modular units a year, it could be a viable alternative to the PC. But if the requirement for consoles remains buying entirely new units every other year or so, it may not be as viable. But again, I didn't think people would be willing to pay $600+ for a gaming unit (blu-ray drive or not).

Theres always a few suck...err I mean people who will buy something regardless of its value. Look at the idiots who are paying $35 for bottled water because the bottle it comes in is a fancy status symbol. Also, remember, a not so small segment of initial PS3 buyers were speculators..folks who bet $600 against a holiday e-bay payday. The few folks I personally know who bought PS3 did so only for the purpose of re-selling it online.

Reply to turpit

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granted im only using a 6800GT graphics card atm (new PC as soon as ATI releases there DX10 card).

While we're on the subject, it should be their, not there or they're.

the subject didnt change into grammar or spelling.

and its very rude to correct someones spelling, so bite me.

Reply to Blank2k2

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granted im only using a 6800GT graphics card atm (new PC as soon as ATI releases there DX10 card).

While we're on the subject, it should be their, not there or they're.

the subject didnt change into grammar or spelling.

and its very rude to correct someones spelling, so bite me.Wait... so is every teacher in the world rude or something? :wink:

Reply to dean7

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granted im only using a 6800GT graphics card atm (new PC as soon as ATI releases there DX10 card).

While we're on the subject, it should be their, not there or they're.

the subject didnt change into grammar or spelling.

and its very rude to correct someones spelling, so bite me.Wait... so is every teacher in the world rude or something? :wink:

well i left school when i was like 12-13 i didnt get on with teachers so yea there rude along with other things i could call them ^^

Reply to Blank2k2

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Theres always a few suck...err I mean people who will buy something regardless of its value. Look at the idiots who are paying $35 for bottled water because the bottle it comes in is a fancy status symbol. Also, remember, a not so small segment of initial PS3 buyers were speculators..folks who bet $600 against a holiday e-bay payday. The few folks I personally know who bought PS3 did so only for the purpose of re-selling it online.

Yeah, the ONLY person I know that bought a PS3 bought it to keep it (now that you can get them easily). But, he's such an idiotic, blind fanboy it's not even funny. He's like "dude, with my surround sound system it actually makes you think that things flying at you are going to hit you in real life" and I'm like "uh-huh, that sound awesome man... *yawn*". So, take that as you may.

Reply to dean7

True. I knew someone who did just that, and sold it for a profit (I believe he was gloating about a $300 profit).

I was pretty disgusted by it, but hey, it's capatilism at it's finest, I suppose.

I would've loved to get my hands on a Wii, but I didn't think it would be as hot as it is nowadays. Oh, well...I have to wait a few more months, no biggie.

@ dean7 - Yeah, the PS3 launch was almost like little riots at cities. The Wii launch was more relaxed and at ease (no one got shot, that I heard of).

The local big box stores here have a few dozen or so PS3s for sale, and 0 Wiis, like your place. I think it all comes down to gameplay, no matter how pretty a game is, if it's not fun, it's just a pretty game. I think the Wii killed the PS3 on that front, even though it's graphics were dated compared to the PS3, it was just more fun (I played Wii Sports bowling at a friend's house, and it was fun - and I didn't lose the controller as I was bowling).

Reply to NMDante

Well, I guess there are those of us that want to improve and don't get chaffed by other people pointing out our flaws (I happen to be one of them and invite people to correct me if I'm wrong), and those of us that prefer to either not improve or prefer to improve themselves in other ways (I have friends that I consider extremely intelligent that just don't care about spelling and would be annoyed with me if I always pointed out their spelling flaws). Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it too much man. I don't think zornundo meant to offend.

Reply to dean7

I was being a smart-a$$. There were a few other posts about the their they're there stuff... :roll:

Reply to zornundo

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True. I knew someone who did just that, and sold it for a profit (I believe he was gloating about a $300 profit).

I was pretty disgusted by it, but hey, it's capatilism at it's finest, I suppose.

I would've loved to get my hands on a Wii, but I didn't think it would be as hot as it is nowadays. Oh, well...I have to wait a few more months, no biggie.

@ dean7 - Yeah, the PS3 launch was almost like little riots at cities. The Wii launch was more relaxed and at ease (no one got shot, that I heard of).

The local big box stores here have a few dozen or so PS3s for sale, and 0 Wiis, like your place. I think it all comes down to gameplay, no matter how pretty a game is, if it's not fun, it's just a pretty game. I think the Wii killed the PS3 on that front, even though it's graphics were dated compared to the PS3, it was just more fun (I played Wii Sports bowling at a friend's house, and it was fun - and I didn't lose the controller as I was bowling).

Fun: another intersting point. One guy I knew who bought the PS3 to sell bought the Wii to keep for fun (in addition to his 360). He and his family (even his wife) have a "blast" with with the Wii. Ive seen other people say the Wii is just plain fun. So far, of the PS3 owners, Ive seen more say "I got one", "oooh ahh, blue ray oooh", "ooh aah...graphics..cool ahhh" than Ive seen say "its fun". Hmmm, makes ya wonder "whats the point of a console"

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All I can say is: hell yeah!

Nintendo aced Sony in every way with their launch (even down to their freaking awesome looking demo stations... don't know if you have them where you live but Nintendo gave them to gaming stores here and they look cool). And you can make a game look as cinematic as you want, but if it's not fun, it will flop. I haven't played the Wii yet, but I have friends that say it's the funnest gaming experience they have ever had. One of my friends' mom is addicted to his Wii and she comes over to his house now just to play Wii Sports (and she's not a gamer).

Anyway, Nintendo took a huge gamble and decided to bow out of the "graphics power" war and focus on making a fun, cheap system. In doing that they managed to tap into a huge demographic (e.g. my girl really wants a Wii and she could care less about a PS3) that they would have missed otherwise. They also managed to (seemingly) win over the "regular gamer crowd" with the Wii, probably because at $250 people can buy Xbox 360 + Wii for same price as PS3 and be way better off.

Oh, and with a $300 profit, your time has to be worth very little for you to be bragging about that.

Reply to dean7

Exactly.

I had a blast with that goofy bowling game in Wii Sports. The graphics aren't really top of the line - hell, they aren't even XBox good - but the fun of watching people actually mimick the bowling movements, and laughing at adults looking like fools makes up for the graphics anyday. With 4 controllers, the Tennis game was intense, although do make room around each other, or you'll whack each other as you swing.

I think the PS3 will make it's little niche, but unless they come out with a "must have" game (ie. GoW/Halo 3 for XBox 360 or Legend of Zelda for Wii), it's just an inexpensive version of a Blu-ray that plays games too.

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PS3 is the only real thing.. Keep it going man.. Hell FPS's on PlayStation works fine, I'm very excellent at Medal of Honour: European Assault and others.. And by the way, look at Killzone 2 the graphics are awesome!

Reply to Killercop

Nintendo is (apparently) the only company that remembers what consoles are all about.

Unless you think it's about getting stabbed while you're waiting in line for a week because you quit your job to get a console that you don't even want. In that case, props to Sony! :twisted:

Reply to dean7

Okay. That's great.

:?

Reply to NMDante

As far as I've seen, Killzone is just vaporware. Any company can make some fancy-looking videos to show of a game in the distant future, but the games that have actually come out for PS3 don't look that impressive (they get their arses handed to them by GoW, and Halo 3 looks like it will be even better).

@NMDante:

Yeah, Sony is losing some of the game studios that used to have exclusive contracts with them, so I think they are hosed. The thing that kept me with them for a long time was Final Fantasy, but I believe they have broken away from their Sony contract now. Plus, the designer behind FF games went to a new studio, so it's pointless.

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If yout think Weeee is going to be the winner of console wars, you're wrong. Hell, look at the graphics for the first thing, back to PS2 level, imagine in year 2008 it will look like crap. Motion control ah yes, good inventing, but some problems, first, you get tired of punching and whatever you do. Second, it's limited what you can do. It's the same with Eyetoy, yay it's going to be revolutionary, but it really didn't, because you need S P A C E. And fo an example, i'm stuck here in 3 x 2,5 meter room so no wavering around without hitting something. Like virtual reality, no future in that either. And because of Wii's low strenght, its only a matter of time when its dead. Like Gamecube.

PS3 is reeeaaally powerful, and has Blue'ray player. All those motion controllers can be made from 3rd party developers so maybe we will see the same thing on PS3.

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Nintendo is (apparently) the only company that remembers what consoles are all about.

Unless you think it's about getting stabbed while you're waiting in line for a week because you quit your job to get a console that you don't even want. In that case, props to Sony!

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Exactly.

I had a blast with that goofy bowling game in Wii Sports. The graphics aren't really top of the line - hell, they aren't even XBox good - but the fun of watching people actually mimick the bowling movements, and laughing at adults looking like fools makes up for the graphics anyday. With 4 controllers, the Tennis game was intense, although do make room around each other, or you'll whack each other as you swing.

I think the PS3 will make it's little niche, but unless they come out with a "must have" game (ie. GoW/Halo 3 for XBox 360 or Legend of Zelda for Wii), it's just an inexpensive version of a Blu-ray that plays games too.

Yup. Remember the Mario games? Ancient but fun, even today. Decisions decisions,....buy "cheap" fun, or invest in a new format whose future is uncertain. Sony's come out with some techno-wonders over the years, but their track record in the format wars seems leaves a little to be desired. I supose its unfair to expect a company to have a hit with every product or format, but as you say, unless they come out with a killer game, PS3 seems to be little more than a Blu Ray that plays games.

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If yout think Weeee is going to be the winner of console wars, you're wrong. Hell, look at the graphics for the first thing, back to PS2 level, imagine in year 2008 it will look like crap. Motion control ah yes, good inventing, but some problems, first, you get tired of punching and whatever you do. Second, it's limited what you can do. It's the same with Eyetoy, yay it's going to be revolutionary, but it really didn't, because you need S P A C E. And fo an example, i'm stuck here in 3 x 2,5 meter room so no wavering around without hitting something. Like virtual reality, no future in that either. And because of Wii's low strenght, its only a matter of time when its dead. Like Gamecube.

PS3 is reeeaaally powerful, and has Blue'ray player. All those motion controllers can be made from 3rd party developers so maybe we will see the same thing on PS3.

Yeah, but is it fun? Wii is fun according to folks I know who own them. Whats the point of a game, fun, or eyecandy? How much fun is PS3? I see people drooling over its graphics, but no one jumping up and down about how much fun it is.

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