Rockstar; why no GTA 4 for PC? - Page 3

I just hope that this is true and wait for results, there`s nothin` left for us to do

Here is some BIG NEWS. Along with Mafia 2 there is another successfull title making its way to all PC Gamers. Ang this one is gonna Rock cause it's ......................SAINTS ROW 2(Release date 14th Oct,2008)............Your chance to play a Gangsta all over again................Mafia 2 and Saints Row 2 will surely make people forget about GTA 4 for a longtime. So even ifff Rockstar decides to release their GTA 4 this November they would have to face stifff competition.

the only game thats come out on consoles that I really wanted... was battlefield bad company... but w/e we'll get an even better battlefield in 09 so w/e

Couldn't find a baby with a joint, and I'm too lazy to make one...

and shine it will. one big thing(and i do mean BIG) that the pc community has over the console community(xbox360-ps3) we have modders and developers(and i dont mean devs that made the game) point blank period. console dont have sandbox or radiant(etc...). and yes a C2D(any) + 8800Gt + 2 gigs ram = play all games at high settings. plus we can upgrade anytime to meet game standards. no matter if its a gfx card or a cpu your not going to spend over $200(given ur buying cheap stuff).

off Wikipedia site "Staff at Sony were quoted in PlayStation Magazine saying that the "RSX shares a lot of inner workings with NVIDIA 7800 which is based on G70 architecture" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSX_% [...] hesizer%27

my old AGP 8x 7800 GS 256 ram is equivalent to the ps3 gpu. and i BEAT on ppl in CoD4.

ps3-xbox 360 - 30-35 fps (locked) @ 1280x1024 (maybe some games get higher but not much more that this)

pc - up too 60 fps @ 2560x1600 on a 30'' LCD


the cost a console is around the same price of a C2D(e4700) P5N-E SLI mobo + 8800Gt + 2 gigs ram(i just built this i know its not a monster but i can play crysis @ 1440x900 on my LCD with all high settings and have around 30-35fps). but you still have to tv to play it on. ok u can buy a cheap tv but for the best graphics you'll need a HDTV to get that. that cost what(???) roughly $2000+ for a good one. so that console just got a lot more expensive than any pc.

key word ''projector" i was talking about LCD's and plasma's

no its not. if so explain.

i doenst make any difference. really who am i to tell you wan to spend your money on. i can careless if you spend it on 3 c**ted hookers and a lollipops.

projectors (cons)- using a projector you would have to turn down your lights and/or dim the room. unless u have a high lum. projector. Bulbs have to be changed often (depending on usage). Also projectors' fans make noise when on(most). you have to place it in the right position for good viewing. For a good res. and good lum. projector expect to spend a pretty penny.

pros - you get that "theater feeling" and look.

regardless its still not convening enough to buy one. and i really dont want a console that why i have a PC.

well like i told you too explain and it took like 4 hrs to write that. lol your right YOU are "a retard going in circles argument"(????) if that makes any sense. try "arguing in circles like a retard"

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can u correct me on my grammar and punctuation now?

yeah true but i already know i have bad typing skills. thats not a mystery. anything else u want to add??

So you're saying before buying a console there was no TV in the house? And the TV was bought strictly for the console?

Actually, the GPU in the PS3 is based on the G71 design, but is clocked at 550MHz and has 24 pixel shaders and TMUs, as well as 8 vertex shaders, quite a bit more powerful than a stock 7800GS which ran at 400MHz, had 16 pixel shaders, 16 TMUs, and only 6 vertex shader units. I love how you say that the PC supports a resolution up to 2560x1600 with a framerate of 60FPS but that's only if you have the highest end equipment available, many times more expensive than either a PS3 or Xbox360. In fact, even 3 Geforce GTX 280s wouldn't be capable of giving Crysis a framerate that high on such a resolution. It's like saying: "With a Ford you can drive at a top speed of 200 miles per hour" when in reality only the top end of the Ford line, the Ford GT can touch this level of speed. Also, the contrast ratio, colors, and response times of my 65" 1080p television absolutely rapes my 1920x1200 LCD monitor.

yeah your 65"" 1080p may rape your LCD @ 1920x1200 but it cost what(???) anywhere from a grand to three grand(new from a store - i worked at Best Buy). plus the xbox/ps3 @ roughly $300 plus(now), and you cant upgrade it at all. nah im good PC still wins(in my book at least). and my 7800GS was OC'd from the factory @ 425mhz core and 625 memory and i was able to clock it up to 525mhz core and 750mhz(roughly). if i had a gpuz of it still i would show you.

"NVIDIA also mentioned that the RSX offers performance stronger than two
GeForce 6800 Ultra SLI GPUs and is based on their next-generation GF70
architecture."

source - http://anandtech.com/tradeshows/sh [...] i=2417&p=4 (old source but still true)

not the G71(if I remember correctly this is the 7900 series GPU which was a revised version of the G70 GPU) like you mentioned. all and all at the end of the when all this is said and done with, the PS3 and my old AGP 7800GS are similar(equivalent doesn't mean exactly the same). point blank period. like i said from the beginning. oh and the memory bandwidth is only 35GB/s much slower than my 40GB/s 7800GS was.

"I love how you say that the PC supports a resolution up to 2560x1600 with a framerate of 60FPS"

actually a lot of games im running i do get 60fps+, but again im only running @ 1440x900 on a 19'' widescreen LCD. if anyone spends over a grand on a computer: its either a store bought/customize computer or its a high-end computer.

here you go - http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Build_a_Gaming_PC (for those who dont want to spend a arm and a leg for a computer) - $802.00(not including tax and shipping, if any) and it still can be upgraded and/or u can run all the next gen games that will be released in the next few years.

and to finish all this up. Crysis is a horrable game(imo). even if i had a quad-core(yes Crysis is written to utilize all 4 cores - for those who dont know) 3 gtx 280 (or 8800GT's) and 4 gigs of ram, i still dont like it the game. i played a demo(with my 7800gs agp card and my new 8800gt) of it and that was about it. my interest is geared toward Fallout 3 and Far Cry 2 and GTA 4 in November(if thats the correct time frame - which I believe it is)

Yes, putting a game in the 360 means it will immediately work, but I wouldn't consider it "flawless." Look at the awful framerate drops in Mass Effect, or even a few in GTA 4. To me, there's no comparing a game at 30 fps to a game at 60 fps...the difference, in my opinion, is that at 60 fps you feel like you're actually there. And also, the graphics on a 360 really don't compare to today's computers. Nvidia now has 3 generations of GPU's that are faster (by quite a bit) than the 360...sure, the graphics look the same if you're playing on a TV that's the size of a slice of bread where both can attain 60 fps, but that's not how any of us want to play games!

It will be announced in some time, don't be so naive.

I'll tell you; instead of going out of the PC market which supposedly is losing grip, developers (QUIETLY as Blizzard did with Mass Effect) announce and release a game for every other platform, squeeze money out of everyone and THEN announce and release it for the piracy-plagued pc as the breadcrumbs.

The logic behind this is that if they did the opposite, may would have played it pirated for pc and it wouldn't then be a strong hit for the more profitable consoles.

Cheers.

What does Blizzard have to do with Mass Effect? You do realize that it was developed by Bioware, right?

I'll echo the sentiment that console games really don't run in HD. Most, especially ones with good graphics are usually running under 720p, and I still read about console games which get FPS drops that affect gameplay. I haven't experienced that on a PC when I played AC or Mass Effect with settings maxed at 1680x1050.

I'll totally agree that if you're in the market for a good blu-ray player, you might as well get a PS3 so you can get firmware updates and won't have to worry if that movie will play in your old blu-ray player.

A year of Xbox Live Gold costs $50 or less depending where you buy it. At most, you'll pay $50 for it directly from Microsoft.

Online on a PS3 is free. Period.

Grow up. Both consoles and PC's have their advantages/disadvantages. The people that truly know have both. It's about having fun - point blank period. What's fun is different for everyone.

no I actually i know ppl who have both and not a PC. only thing they truly know is how to spend money and not save it. but hey its about having fun right?

I totaly agree with everything you have said 110% right. oh and yea... i live in a free country so if you want to argu with me..... **** OF!

But all the games you just mentioned are reasons to go the console route instead of the PC route! Rock Band and Guiat Hero would not only be kind of difficult to play on PC, but they're not very graphically-intensive...a $5,000 computer would just destroy those games!

i knew what u meant. im just saying i know ppl who bought both consoles and didnt spend that money and have a all-in-one pc(its there choice and money i know) that plays the same games(except console exclusive games which are few and far in-between) at better resolution, frame rate and over-all quality. yeah sure you might not be able to play on a 65'' 1080pLCD (and really from what i am understanding you get less than 720p with a console) but who has room; money; and wants a 65'' TV when its only going to get used sometimes(i dont watch tv and if i did thats why i have a TV tuner card).

to be completely honest if you own a tv that big im sorry our either old and/or like sports; have more money than brains; or 12 years old and are lying about it. its your money to spend not mine. im happy with my 19'' windscreen LCD and like the games and hassle(updates; service packs; patches; etc...) that comes with any pc

down the road i learn more from the hassle of have to diagnose a PC problem rather than turn on and off a little box. in fact i can go to school for a few years and get a job and support a family with that knowledge. can you? no u cant.

PC still wins. period

oh and as far as spending $5000 on a pc dont buy into DELL build your own at 3/4 of the price. i dont care how much and what you have i can build that same computer for under $1500 ''tax, tag, title'' out the door and in my living room.

heres a little wiki on how to do that:

http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Build_a_Gaming_PC

You're a complete dolt. Go to school to learn English before you go to school to support a family. I have a 110" screen because I can. Get over it and enjoy your 19" LCD that happens to be about a foot smaller than my picture screen in the program guide. You're clearly young. An opinion doesn't end in a "period", it ends in a question mark. Dummy.