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Well platitude pretty much sums up the game. There isn't anything worth saying about it. And I'm happy that I made you happy thinking I live in the US, I guess I'm not the only blind person on here.

My complaint about the cinematics is part of the section on poor storytelling and the cinematics are used in Hellgate to tell what little story there is. If they wanted to tell the story in the game engine through scripted conversations or something that would've been great but what you don't do is show a cinematic of a huge fight and then have the player not take part in it. That's bad storytelling.

I like this part in particular:

That's precisely why I won't buy this game, it's boring as hell

Seriously laakuma, why are you getting all defensive about this game? Did your big brother buy it for your 7th birthday?

The game is not great. Its just above average slightly.

Travis M, wrote a review and game it a comedic 4/10. The game is obviously not a 4/10, and the reasons he gave it that, some of which are not relevant to game play.

If you read the review, totally objectively, with no bias pre or post playing the game, you get the idea that the reviewer is just an overly emotional person, because the level of hate, frustration, and other emotions just dominated it. he was obviously so overwhelmed by the crashes, that it just pissed him off to the point where he could not be objective anymore.

The game isn't great, as I said, its simply slightly above average. If you played all the games that came out in 2007, this one is better than half, but nothing to rave about.

The hundreds of reviews around the world back up what I am saying, as the average review score around the globe is in the low 70's. 4/10 is a piece of **** game that sucks badly, not even fun at all, and not worth playing 1 minute.

I got pissed because the reviewer is wielding power to help or hurt companies that employ alot of people, and depend on FAIR reviews to make their money.

IF he would have said something like "if I could play this game without all the crashes, it would have been a 75 for X reasons" but he didn't even say that. Not to mention, if you read the review, he didn't even know how to properly play the game. If your going to review it, at least learn how to play it.

I wanted to post to give the people that read this site another perspective. The internet is full of nutt huggers and there needed to be another opinion.

Thats all. The discussion needs to be balanced. With both perspectives. But hey, if you don't want balanced and you want it all with what you agree with all the time, turn on CNN or something. lol. "jokes"

LAAkuma

Should I also say, "If not for all the parts that suck, this game would totally kick ass!" How can I ignore client crashes on multiple computers? Have you been to the official forums at all? They are full of people who are having problems.

Where in the review do I come across as not knowing how to play and which village did you live in as a child that I burned down? There were several...

No, that would be a 1 or 2. 4/10 is below average, not POS. Don't you get it? The hundreds of reviews "around the globe" always give a bloody 7/10 or higher! I guess you didn't see the video on that did you?

So lets here it, now that the game isn't crash happy anymore, what rating does it get now?

Can you answer that simple question without going on an emotional diatribe?

LAAkuma

I'd give it a 4/10 still (meaning below average because on the scale 99% of sites use 7/10 is a pretty bad game), because it's just plain bad.

It still crashes so it still gets a 4.0.

Now that I've answered your question maybe you can tell me how I'm not playing the game correctly.

I commend you for not using the normal scale that is used now, which would mean you'd have to give it a 7 minimum for a crap not-worth-playing game.

You complained about so many things, why don't you go back, and look at all your complaints, and then take a look at how to play the game correctly, and youll realize a few of your points are null if you know what your doing. Like for example, too many items. You got all emotional over the fact you pick up so many items and you can't use them, and its all too much management, etc. I get that, I agree with that. BUT, any good RPG player does not just pick up everything spamming the F key. You look at what you can use, or might want, then you pick up things selectively, that way you don't have all the crap you don't want.

Also, you failed to mention 1 area of Hellgate that is VERY favorable to RPG players and makes the game stand out in that respect, and that is ITEM DROPS.

In a normal RPG, items drop and then its anyone's game who gets the item. For multiplayer.
Not in Hellgate London, they have a new concept where items drop FOR ALL PLAYERS, so anything you see on the screen is yours, nobody else can see it.

So thats 2 things you didn't know about the game, and I could go on and on.

And the game does not crash for alot of people. Alot. You are in dis-belief, but its true.

Randomizer, its apparent you can't effectively argue anything, because your entire realm of responses are platitudes, and generalizations with nothing specific. Every single post you make is a platitude. Even the last one. "its a crap game not worth playing" before that it was it sucks get over it.

I think your brain is confused on what is rational anymore, and you have been beat down by lib syndrome.

Anyway, AGAIN, I don't think the game is great, I just think its above average for a game on the PC. If the best game of the year is COD4 and the worst PC game is I don;t know, say X or whatever, then Hellgate would be stacked in the 70% area of the better than average games.

I also think that the "star wars" effect is having too much effect on reviewers comments. Whatever game, originated the genre is always going to be the best, the most thrill, the most of most things. And with the internet and media now, games are so hyped up and blown up before they come out, expectations are too high and emotional people get the game and feel let down when in fact, the game is superb quality. Hellgate is not quality, but per se Crysis is Superb quality for certain reasons like graphics environment, nano suit fun, sandbox, etc. This game got compared to Diablo 2 immediately, when its not like that game entirely, its more like a cross of DOOM and Diablo 2. Thats never been done before like this, it should get points for creativity for that.

lol ok, lets move onto the next game and see if Meachem can produce something objective instead of a emotional rant about how frustrating it is to play the same level x times in a row because it crashed. haha.

First impressions are everything. When it started crashing, no matter how good other aspects of the game are, certain people just can;t see them because its all negative from then on out. T. Meacham fell into that trap and it was all downhill from the first crash. he knows it, I know it, end of story.

You are sounding extremely emotional.

You need to stop obsessing over one review, you want a good review, go read pc gamer, seriously, they give games 90% all the time, and then apologize for it. edit- they gave the game 89%. 1up.com gave the game a 4 aswell.

The game sucks, that's my opinion, you don't like it, fine, go play the game, and i'll play the rpgs I find 10000x more interesting and fun, I even had more fun playing WoW than HGL (only played the demo, and that was a pile of suck).

Hi Laakuma, I don't want it to be everyone against one person here but the grading of this game was based on comparisons with the same genre of games. So comparing this game to COD4 as GOTY and then say X (Dear Hunter, etc.) aren't good comparisons. You would probably find games which came out recently in the same genre such as WOW, Guild Wars, Oblivion, and Diablo II because in the end, they are the creator of that EPIC game. So when compared to those games (I might have missed a few), HG:L really falls short on many levels...regardless of all crashes.

I also agree that they had innovative things like the gun shooting up the big balloon monster and controlling the squad of soldiers at one point. But, the lack of storyline and the way it was delivered (text as oppose to voice acting, etc) felt short; the graphics are less or equal to the similar games (although the cinematics were pretty nice); the replacement of upgrading your weapons and so on got old very quickly...etc, etc, etc.

So I have had a few crashes while playing the game but only after hours of playing. The crashes in my experience didn't set me back so much, luckily. But as I went through the game, it was one thing which deceived me after another, after another, after another, until I finally just stopped playing. You can't blame Diablo II players to expect great cinematics after each Chapter/Act which HG:L didn't provide. Each Chapter/Act in Diablo II looked very different where as HG:L looked the same for the most part. Anyways, I could go on forever.

So yes, HG:L has goods in the game, no doubt about it, but it doesn't have the cutting edge needed to be today's average game in this genre.

This guy tries so hard to prove a point, its hilarious

I've got 2 copies of the game for MP use (though they were cheap which helped). It's installed on 2 very different machines ($4000 core duo laptop and old $1000 upgraded Athlon64 desktop).

We've had no crashing issues with either system.

Multiplayer IS fun with friends... my kids play with friends of ours who live a couple hours away, they really enjoy themselves. MP appears very stable, no connection issues.

Overall, we all think the game was worth the money... even though most of the reviewers comments were right on. The game is not great... it's merely good... a brainless hack and slash diversion. I think his score of 4/10 was reasonable give his crashing issues. Even without crashing problems I'd not give it more than a 6/10 (I'd probably give Diablo 2 a score in the same range - maybe 7/10 for novelty).

I think he is the lone employee who did not leave Flagship Studios!

Way to bump a 5 month old thread. lol