Seems like MickySoft is the biggest part of the problem. Pushing Vista, Dx10 and XBox down everyones throat.
PC games are now mostly ports, and really bad ports at that.
Another serious problem is the hacking and cheating. A couple of hacker websites are now making money on their product.
Only multiplayer games I still play are CoD2, CoD4. Their hacked up but at least they work.
I broke down and got Bioshock. It's very different and a lot of fun, but there is no multiplayer game mode.
Strategy games are still alive and well on the PC. There are also some very promising titles on the horizon like Spore and Dragon Age, but I'm not sure those are your thing or not.
Hey ho here we go again...................................
Piracy Is to Blame.... With out a shaddow of doubt...
Any one who says anything else is in denial.....
or a pirate that has means to this breakdown...
Why do you think that there has not been many Hollywood blockbusters like there used to be....people downloading them
PIRACY
Why do you think that Blueray won the wars
DVD was cracked and so was HD Dvd
Consoles are harder to copy games - the consoles have to be modified, chipped or what evers needed....so they return a better investment..
and disks are harder to create too...mostly DVD 9's
Out of reach of most people in the high street, but bit torrent is not...
All you need is a client, Winrar and Nero ( or what ever disk writing program you need) ) and a cheap dvd writer with single or dual layer disks.
Search them on google and youll get 100's of relpies
So consoles are a clear winner from a publishers point of view....
Yes pcs are more flexible, yes pcs are better machines, yes pcs have better games bla bla bla ... But consoles games are more frequent.
Games consoles came out with HD first - on a 1080i / p monitor
Games for windows has been a disaster, its since Vista came out and the Xbox 360 had decent games only just really comming out last year...
Go on name 10 Games for Windows Games, i bet you cant with out looking it up
now name 10 Xbox 360 games
It seems that the trend is, games are not being given to the oldest gaming platform ever... the pc....
You look in the shops, pc games magazines .... its 3-4 page spreads for a 75% game which is a addon pack....where before it was only 1 page.................and pc games tend to be the same ones week after week except those poxy SIM 2 Expansion packs for girls....
I don't think it's the piracy issue that makes consoles sell more games than PC. They're just more accessible (cheaper).
You say that it's harder to pirate console games due to modding issues etc. Technically yes, this is true but in reality if someone really wants to play pirated games then relatively small issues such as this won't stop them.
Also think of a case like this;
Imagine a user who owns both a PC and a console. They want to save money by using pirate games. Since they have limited knowledge of anything above basic PC use (installing games, internet use etc.) they decide to take their console to 'the man on the market' or their 'friend of a friend' whom in a couple of days will return their console modded and with cheap games. This rather than learn the (to PC newbies) daunting task of messing around with cracked executables, copy protections and torrents that are needed on PC. Not to mention said user probably has a slow internet connection not conductive to downloading.
I believe that Blu-ray's copy protection has also been cracked - for quite some time.
PC games have taken advantage of high definition graphics for much longer than consoles. The 'next-gen' HD resolutions are 720i/p and 1080i/p (1280x720 and 1920x1080 respectively). Do some research and you'll see that PC games have been capable of 1280x1024 resolution and above for many years now. In fact I recall playing Duke Nukem 3D at a resolution of 1024x768 - very close to the lowest HD resolution of today.
Ascertain the facts before you post sweeping statements.
I don't think it's the piracy issue that makes consoles sell more games than PC. They're just more accessible (cheaper).
You say that it's harder to pirate console games due to modding issues etc. Technically yes, this is true but in reality if someone really wants to play pirated games then relatively small issues such as this won't stop them.
Also think of a case like this;
Imagine a user who owns both a PC and a console. They want to save money by using pirate games. Since they have limited knowledge of anything above basic PC use (installing games, internet use etc.) they decide to take their console to 'the man on the market' or their 'friend of a friend' whom in a couple of days will return their console modded and with cheap games. This rather than learn the (to PC newbies) daunting task of messing around with cracked executables, copy protections and torrents that are needed on PC. Not to mention said user probably has a slow internet connection not conductive to downloading.
I believe that Blu-ray's copy protection has also been cracked - for quite some time.
PC games have taken advantage of high definition graphics for much longer than consoles. The 'next-gen' HD resolutions are 720i/p and 1080i/p (1280x720 and 1920x1080 respectively). Do some research and you'll see that PC games have been capable of 1280x1024 resolution and above for many years now. In fact I recall playing Duke Nukem 3D at a resolution of 1024x768 - very close to the lowest HD resolution of today.
Ascertain the facts before you post sweeping statements.
Yeah we had hi-res but to really take advantage of it we all need 24inch monitors
who runs games at 1920x1080 let alone windows on a 17 inch monitor.....
piracy is the obstacle hitting games developement, check all the torrent sites, all the latest games are on there ( if any ) that are ready to be copied, blagged whatever......on the same day, if not before they are released.
I hope all you blaggers get caught and fined..... Maybe it will wake you up......
You don't need a 24" monitor to take advantage of high resolution, only to use resolutions like 1920x1080 and above.
No one. You can't get 1920x1080 17" monitors.
All I'm saying is that consoles did not "come out" with HD graphics first. PC had them long before. Try find anyone worth their salt in this forum who will agree with you.
You don't need a 24" monitor to take advantage of high resolution, only to use resolutions like 1920x1080 and above.
My 19" monitor handles 2048x1536 and is pretty good for 1920x1080 HD playback. But you're right, I don't think there are any 17" PC monitors which can handle those resolutions.
Strategy games are still alive and well on the PC. There are also some very promising titles on the horizon like Spore and Dragon Age, but I'm not sure those are your thing or not.
You don't need a 24" monitor to take advantage of high resolution, only to use resolutions like 1920x1080 and above.
No one. You can't get 1920x1080 17" monitors.
All I'm saying is that consoles did not "come out" with HD graphics first. PC had them long before. Try find anyone worth their salt in this forum who will agree with you.
You are welcome to your own opinion on piracy.
the HD format definition in its highest resolution is 1920x1080p which needs a wide screen to display properly
just like panoramic or wide screen movie being shown on a square tv - you had black lines at the top and bottom, remember......
to get the true benefit you need a 24 inch, it can be done with a high end 22 but to get the true benefit it needs to be a 24 inch....
And yes that is my stance on piracy, how much have you downloaded lately ?
yes pc games have been a better resolution than consoles, and some call it HD but the true HD format works as i have said before with a large widescreen tv...
I think that pcs are the only platform for online games. The online fps are just as good as the online console games....if not way better. RTS = pc only. MMOG = pc only. Single player or nononline games = they are close to each other.
BUT!!! Windows has been hacked so many times that the level of frustration for maintaining a game pc games is very high. The cost of hardware also is a lot higher than a console. But when BF2142 is on sale at CCity, for $10 things can even out. As has been said, pcs are also work and communications tools. The thing that separates a work pc and a game pc is simply the videocard.
I sadly heard a rumor that XBOX's have been compromised by hackers but correct me if im wrong.
ive had enough of these conversations, piracy is not the reason PC games are turning to trash... thats just an excuse when the game makers make really bad desicions then fail. getting copys for consoles is just as easy as pc games infact its easier.
the HD format definition in its highest resolution is 1920x1080p which needs a wide screen to display properly
just like panoramic or wide screen movie being shown on a square tv - you had black lines at the top and bottom, remember......
to get the true benefit you need a 24 inch, it can be done with a high end 22 but to get the true benefit it needs to be a 24 inch....
And yes that is my stance on piracy, how much have you downloaded lately ?
yes pc games have been a better resolution than consoles, and some call it HD but the true HD format works as i have said before with a large widescreen tv...
Do you mean a 24 inch LCD tv that was basically PC technology first? You are right though. True HD looks better on a 24 inch+. But still consoles just continually rip PC's off and then we get the shaft in games. Well except the HL@/TF2 games. Those still rock any console games boots.
ive had enough of these conversations, piracy is not the reason PC games are turning to trash... thats just an excuse when the game makers make really bad desicions then fail. getting copys for consoles is just as easy as pc games infact its easier.
Wait why was HL2 delayed again? Oh right. The leak of the Source engine. Thats piracy for ya. Not every maker who states piracy is to blame is trying to avoid showing their mistakes. Some are hit by it, Valve being one of them.
there will always be pc gaming read flaken666 post in the pc section, it will very clearly enlighten you guys on why it simply isn't going to go away, even if it is just a simple theory it makes too much sense to dismiss...
Don't worry about console gaming, b/c it will always be here b/c there are simply too many idiots who can't deal with the changes of pc hardware to fathom the time to upgrade machines, mess with software upgrade/patches, so on and so on...
besides Microsoft has its own development studios, if you've ever played the highly regarded Age of Empires series you would know that, and I'm sure if more key players like epic decide that they have their panties in a bunch and will go only console, don't worry b/c AMD/ATi, nvidia and other companies that have poured tons of resources into GPU's will probably decide that they do not want to lose market share [in the pc gaming arena] simply b/c pussy developers [like epic] are too scared, and will produce their own development studios for PC gaming...
So don't worry, the PC gaming industry will be here to stay, b/c trust me they are in it, to win it...
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