Last message on previous page: Well, I've got a different problem to add to the mix. I've had my Halo 3 edition 360 since October '07, and immediately after the warranty expired the audio started cutting out after extended periods of play. Then it began cutting out after reasonable periods of play. Now it cuts out after less than 20 minutes. It is always out in the open, vertical, the front and back straddling two stacks of Hardy Boys books to ensure the bottom isn't obstructed when standing upright. I've tried it horizontally to, but it just gets hotter because it can't use convection heating. I even installed my game to the hard drive so that I wouldn't have to use that blast furnace of a disc drive. Still not working. You restart, it works, 20 minutes later, no sound. Even after it's been sitting over night in a cold (~65 degrees F) room. Just another Microsoft S.N.A.F.U. I'm reluctant to pay M$ $94 dollars to get it fixed. I'd prefer they replace the motherboard with the new revision that's coming out but put it in the same case, 'cause I like the Halo 3 system casing. In fact, they might as well do that with all Xbox's that come in with hardware failure. Save their bean-counting a$$es a lot more in the long run. At least the system would be more likely to die AFTER the 3-year RRoD warranty was up, and they'd be free from liability, unless we brought up another class-action suit, which I don't think is gonna happen.
But for college, I guess I'll buy a new revision system, throw the warranty to the wind and put it in the Lian Li Xbox 360 case, and swap the hard drive for a 7200RPM 120GB notebook drive (very easily done, so I'm told, but I'd really like to go 320GB, but apparently that can't be done). Shouldn't ever fail again with that much air flow.
Message edited by waffle911 on 11-30-2008 at 12:29:49 AM
Maybe it has to do with cords. If not, wrap your 360 in a towel to get RROD and get a new one for free. I doubt that it would cause a void to warranty if M$ didn't find out. Might want to check it out before you do it though. Also, if you change the hardware, can't you potentially get yourself banned from Xbox Live? Or do you not plan to pay 50 bucks a year for the service? Worse comes to worse, get a PS3.
Still though, some people cannot afford a $1500+ gaming computer. Instead, they could just pay $400 and have $1100 left over. Don't get me wrong, I have a gaming computer and I have enjoyed games such as Crysis on high settings and I always tell my freinds the newest console game with "amazing graphics" doesn't even come close to Crysis. I have enjoyed other titles such as Dawn of War, and World in Conflict as well. My point being, some people just don't have that kind of money. Yes, they could just upgrade, but if there computer is older, or is a laptop, it will be hard finding compatible parts.
Oh, BTW, would you mind helping me out at my thread if have any advice, I am trying hook up my consoles to my PC.
Message edited by Tyor on 11-30-2008 at 02:51:11 PM
I had the original xbox premium RROD on me... Since then Never had a problem.. clearly there was a design flaw with the CPU used and Powersupply etc.
Since than all these new designed systems run great. Keep in mind it's not the smartest idea to bury your Console in your tv rack engulfed in it's own hot air with no circulation. A lot of people i see on youtube there systems are buried in there tv stands with zero air circulation. properly vent your unit and you won't have a problem.
I hope this new Jasper revision clears up this mess..
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I had the original xbox premium RROD on me... Since then Never had a problem.. clearly there was a design flaw with the CPU used and Powersupply etc.
Since than all these new designed systems run great. Keep in mind it's not the smartest idea to bury your Console in your tv rack engulfed in it's own hot air with no circulation. A lot of people i see on youtube there systems are buried in there tv stands with zero air circulation. properly vent your unit and you won't have a problem.
While it may be true that some people do not treat their hardware right, you are spouting pure BS when you say that leaving your system properly ventilated will prevent the RROD or other issues. When my Xbox 360 got the red ring in March, it was sitting under my glass TV stand which is completely open all around the system. The temperature in the room was probably around 65 degrees Fahrenheit at the time it died, so I don't think there was anything I could have done to keep my console any cooler.
Also, the Xbox 360's powersupply is 100% external so if that had been part of the issue, Microsoft would be replacing the power bricks as well.
My 360 has even more space around and yet it freezes from time to time. Once every two days... I have probably 3 feet of space behind it, 9 feet up, 10-12 feet on either side. Yeah, mine is sitting on the floor, on a hardcover book so that rug has no interference.
based on the hardware design flaws, the excessive heat is what pushes the system over to cause the RROD. if you don't properly vent your system you are just asking for a RROD. obviously it's not 100% the reason obviously. but it's just adding to the fire.
first of all I did not say that is the only way your 360 can fail... alot of the cases for the failure was due to over heating and improper air flow pushed the system over the edge. in your case obviously it's a different problem.
based on the hardware design flaws, the excessive heat is what pushes the system over to cause the RROD. if you don't properly vent your system you are just asking for a RROD. obviously it's not 100% the reason obviously. but it's just adding to the fire.
Didn't think i needed to make myself that clear
While improper airflow may cause your system to die faster, it is still inexcusable on Microsoft's part for releasing such a poorly designed system. 360s basically red ring regardless of how well the air flow is, and it is just a matter of time. Sure having your console in a cool open place might make it last longer, but if it won't prevent the RROD from happening. I have never had a console die from overheating the way my Xbox 360 did, and I've had quite a few game consoles over the years that have been treated far worse than my Xbox 360.
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