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cafuddled wrote :


The only reason hardware is where it is today is because software of games (the only software that pushes hardware to it’s limits) has been constantly progressing higher and higher in spec. Hardware manufacturers have forecast this and have there for produced faster and faster hardware to meet the consumer demand. What do you think is going to happen once this demand has stopped?

You tell me.



It won't. People like YOU (and I) create a demand. On the flip side, publishers need to see a profit in order invest in making games like Crysis. If pushing the limits doesn't make sense financially, then they will simply publish games that can run on most PCs their target audience owns. If their target audience are enthusiasts who spend anywhere from 2000$ to 5000$ on their PCs...which means a forecast of less units to be sold, then they would have to sell these units at a much higher price. Given the piracy issues that the PC Gaming Industry suffers from, this type of audience won't be targeted anytime soon.

So, convince your friends to buy the most up to date hardware on a regular basis and to stop pirating games (I'm not accusing them...but you get the point).

The blame goes to the publishers who don't create games that are pushing the limits. However, it's hard to ask someone to make only 10$ when they have the potential to make 100$ (Not to mention the amount of money they risk on every game they create).


Message edited by Alex The PC Gamer on 07-24-2008 at 04:59:23 PM
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Besides, check the news.

Nvidia: CUDA and similar development.

Intel: With the R&D in CPU Graphics (might end up pushing the limits if this really works out).

AMD: Currently, it's not very good...but if enough R&D is done, a shared processing unit between CPU and GPU could generate the best performance. This is the most promising option of all. Unfortunately, AMD is experiencing strong financial problems at the moment.

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Reply to Alex The PC Gamer

I don't see anything wrong with pc graphics, as a matter of fact PC Gaming is on a serious upswing, Spore, Devil May Cry 4, Metal Gear Solid 4 (yes it's coming to pc), Final Fantasy, Grid, Diablo 3, all these great games are coming to pc or already here. Also, like some mentioned you truly don't have to have the very best hardware to run these titles especially if you aren't running them at medium resolutions. Most of the people spending the really big bucks NEED that horsepower because they are playing at 1920X1200. For those that are looking for modest upgrades though, omg have you seen the prices today there simply is no better time to purchase. You can get a ATI HD3870 for 150.00 and that'll run just about anything you throw at it. So, long story short, i think pc gaming is just fine and i think it's getting better. (hopefully all the pirating won't kill it off though) please people.......buy your games.

Reply to pmerritt

*** ing stupid consoles......
wake up gamers we all need a pc "thats the lord of gaming"......
xbox 360 and ps3 are pc's ***.......
plz support hardcore gaming on pc rather than all those baby games on those gate's console

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When it comes to playing online I feel the PC market still rules. Everyone has forgotten what makes PC games fun and gone Graphics crazy. There are still a ton of games that I love that never made the transition to the consoles. Starcraft and Homeworld for example. And how much fun is the Quake or Unreal Tournament series to play online on the PC versus the consoles.
Yes the muscle required to run games like Crysis full Monty is expensive but isn't that part of the fun of it all. Putting together a system with your own two hands, something that is distinctively yours? Anyone can got to a Walmart and buy a console that will play all the latest console games and even some with some decent online play but only a hardcore gaming enthusiast will go the extra mile to have the best in gaming.

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WoW...talk about a pointless thread. MS is not hindering the PC Gaming market in any way. MS released DirectX 10 and DirectX 11 with the intent of improving graphics. nVidia has recently come to realize that there's only so much you can really do with PC graphics. The next step is now ray-tracing and tesselation, which requires hardware capable of doing both, as well as a graphics API that is capable. It really makes no difference to gamers how graphically advanced a game is, if they can't run it or don't enjoy playing it. For graphics to move beyond where they are, developers HAVE to start optimizing for quad and oct-core processors....which costs more money, and thus raises sale prices on games. nVidia appears to be focusing more on GPGPU this round, than they are on graphics....which is very commendable. Graphics cards, as we know them, will cease to exist in the coming years....that is where the computer industry in general is heading.

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