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T2 sues 3D Realms.
Disappointed in the closing of 3D Realms, potentially signaling Duke Nukem Never?
So is Take-Two Interactive, and perhaps more disappointed than anyone else after paying $12 million for the publishing rights to see nothing.
Take-Two is now taking its discontent to court and has sued Apogee Software Ltd.’s 3D Realms.
“Apogee continually delayed the completion date for the Duke Nukem Forever,” Take-Two said in the complaint, according to Bloomberg. “Apogee repeatedly assured Take-Two and the video-gaming community that it was diligently working toward competing development of the PC Version of the Duke Nukem Forever.”
The future of Duke Nukem Forever is still uncertain. “Leaks” of assets and gameplay videos show that there is some sort of product floating around amidst the 12 year development, but who knows if we’ll ever see it.
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"Who knows if we'll ever see it" Wow. Just wow. At this point, do we still need to repeat the line that has been tied to this game since I was in HS? Will we ever see it? No. Even if someone else picks up the rights, it wouldn't be the same game we've been mocking for 12 years. Duke Nukem forever is dead.
Probably what Take-Two is going for here is ownership of whatever game content was already created as well as possession of the name and previous IP, since 3d Realms obviously has no money left to pay out a lawsuit. Presumably they'd hand it over to another developer so that it might actually be created someday or perhaps simply sell it if they're taken too big a loss on this already to invest more.
Take-Two must have some real clever lawyers. I mean, use what they've been saying for many years before Take-Two gave them money, as an argument as to way they've taken a relatively shorter period of time to do what they've be supposedly doing for over a decade.
the fact that it was called duke nukem FOREVER tipped me off a while ago.
Hey Valve!! nice opportunity here!! If I had the money.......
The game has been one big joke perpetrated by 3D Realms on the gaming community. The joke itself is in the name of the game obviously with "Forever" in the title. In fact, I believe it has been a form of mockery. This should turn into a class action lawsuit by the entire gaming community on 3D Realms or whoever owns it. Consider how much time people have wasted checking the 3D Realms website in anticipation of that game, which was promised to the community but never made. How do you remedy something like that even through the legal system? This would be a different case had they continued work on the title and eventually made good on their promise, but sometimes "When it's done" just is not good enough.
Valve could do the game justice. However, we would have to wait an additional 12 years for it to come out.
Valve could do the game justice. However, we would have to wait an additional 12 years for it to come out.
And then another 5 years for the SDK... if they even decide to make one.
I hope Take-Two is not suing for money, LOL , didnt 3d realms go under for lack of moola?
I JUST WANT THE FRIGGIN GAME!
Valve could do the game justice. However, we would have to wait an additional 12 years for it to come out.
Valve doesn't have the right attitude to make DNF. For it to be a real sequel, it has to be aggressively juvenile in tone, and Valve hasn't made anything like that as far as I know.
Croteam could probably do a decent job, possibly Rockstar, and a few other developers... but really a game like DNF would go over horribly today. The average age of gamers has gone up substantially and the people who played DN3D are nearly all in their twenties or older, so the kind of stupidly juvenile humor that characterized Duke would be pretty soundly rejected by the target market. They'd probably claim it sucked and wasn't the same, but really, that kind of thing simply doesn't appeal to anyone over about 13.
I think Croteam would be best at it. They should throw Sam in there as an easter egg.
"hmm...3d realms is going under...LETS SUE THEM!"
Valve could do the game justice. However, we would have to wait an additional 12 years for it to come out.
whats another 12 years in this industry?
i hope they sue their azzes
This game could easily become Game of the Year, if they tried
oh this is a new f-ing low for take two, they couldtn buy the ip form goerge so they isntead sue for it , the a-holes. they paid money for it ?? i thought the game was beign fuly funded by 3DR. if they really cared for it taht much why didnt tehy just front 3DR the money theya sked for ???
i hope Take two gets absolutely ZERO for this low effort of theirs
oh this is a new f-ing low for take two, they couldtn buy the ip form goerge so they isntead sue for it , the a-holes. they paid money for it ?? i thought the game was beign fuly funded by 3DR. if they really cared for it taht much why didnt tehy just front 3DR the money theya sked for ???i hope Take two gets absolutely ZERO for this low effort of theirs
Take-Two have every right to sue them. When you invest $12 million into a game for publishing rights and it doesn't even get finished after 12 years I think you'd want your money back. 3D Realms are the epitomy of incompetence and are going to get burned for it. Serves them right.
Maybe this'll be like GnR and Chinese Democracy. If it's ever finished, everyone gets a free Dr. Pepper.
So, Take-Two is suing 3D Realms for going bankrupt??? ... well done Take-Two, well done ... you must have some great minds working at your helm.
HMMMM,methinks they should have been sued like maybe 8 or ten years ago,,when they had some mooola..
So, Take-Two is suing 3D Realms for going bankrupt??? ... well done Take-Two, well done ... you must have some great minds working at your helm.
You didn't read the article did you. They are suing them for sitting on their hands for 12 years while getting paid for it. 3D Realms only went broke because Take-Two pulled funding prior to starting this lawsuit. Why would you keep funding someone you want to sue? I guess they have good minds at their helm, makes sense to me.
So, Take-Two is suing 3D Realms for going bankrupt??? ... well done Take-Two, well done ... you must have some great minds working at your helm.
Take-Two is suing 3DRealms for the $12 million dollars it put toward a game that is no closer to production today than it was 10 years ago. $12 million is not pocket change and Take-Two deserves to get that money back.
Yeah baby, sue them, get the rights back and give them to someone who can actually finish it. 12 years wtf did they do in that time, even i would have finished it
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Wow. They just realized they're being played? I don't know how they survived if they think that way...... Yeah, for some reason I'm confused why a company isn't using company greed right now..... >.
the most confusing thing- to me- is that in 1999, the game was near-completion. I remember seeing a 9-minute video of the gameplay, and it went through several levels. I don't understand why they couldn't have jut released that. I remember reading that they switched engines for better graphics and physics, but it's not always about that. Castle Crashers and Rez are pretty simple, but I love them.
They deserve to be sued. How can anyone fail so hard at anything for this long?
Talk about Epic Fail!
man duke nukem is so 1990s ... even if it were released today it would be irrelevant. 3drealms really dropped the ball on this one taking 12 years to come out with a sequel...
and this to someone that bought the original, the plutonium pack, the atomic edition a few times over ...
you suck 3drealms.
If this game were to ever appear on shelves, I would still be a disappointment. Even if Duke Nukem Forever could come close to Half Life 2's quality it would still have the decade+ of crap circling around it. I don't think modern technology could make any game say to me "yes that was worth 12+ years of development."
What happen if this title in the hands of Crytek or Infinity Ward. That will be awesome. The property is up for bid the last time I've heard. I'm willing to offer 12 cents for it. Hey, I'm willing to offer something and that's rare.
Take-Two have every right to sue them. When you invest $12 million into a game for publishing rights and it doesn't even get finished after 12 years I think you'd want your money back. 3D Realms are the epitomy of incompetence and are going to get burned for it. Serves them right.
they didnt invest 12 million in the project only in rights to publish
publishers are like record lables, they are suppose to soak any losses for a failed project. and Goerge asked them to front some money for the acutal project and they turned him down and instead tried to buy his IP. failign that they sue, this is nothing more than a manuever to steal some one else's creation (that being the Duke nuke em IP NOT just one game but the entire idea aka IP= intellectual property )
the point is if they really cared about the game getting released then they would have just invested money to the actual development of teh game (like goerge asked). but they did'nt and are ovbcviously tryign to steal away some one elses artistic work before goerge is able to shop the game out to a new publisher. all truth be told apogee should pick this up as they owned 3dr and thus owns any IP produced by 3dr , so in a way tak two is trying to steal form two people at once. regardless of management skills , NO artist deserves to have thier work stolen out from under them, if soem one is say retarded and and mis manages sales of thier paintings would that give some one else the right to steal said painting and claim it as thier creation ?
You didn't read the article did you. They are suing them for sitting on their hands for 12 years while getting paid for it. 3D Realms only went broke because Take-Two pulled funding prior to starting this lawsuit. Why would you keep funding someone you want to sue? I guess they have good minds at their helm, makes sense to me.
THEY NEVER FUNDED the development of DNF , 3dr was payign for it otu of thier own pockets , take two only paid apogee (not 3dr) for publishing rights to the title there is BIG BIG difference again get your facts strait amigo !