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Apple Sued Again Over $368 Million FaceTime Suit

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VirnetX has added iPhone 5, iPad Mini and other recently released iDevices to lawsuit.

Not content with winning over $368 million in a court victory against Apple over a FaceTime patent lawsuit, VirnetX has added two key products belonging to the former into an additional lawsuit.

As was the case in its previous complaint, VirnetX is accusing Apple of infringing four of its networking patents via the utilization of FaceTime through the iPhone 5 and iPad Mini.

Patents Nos. 6,502,135, 7,418,504, 7,921,211 and 7,490,151, relate to advancements for secure communication over the web: technology for creating a virtual private network between two computers a system, a protocol pertaining to secure communications using secure domain names, as well as establishing a secure communications link related to a domain name service request.

The products which are accused of infringing the aforementioned patents are the iPhone 5, iPad Mini, fourth-generation iPad, fifth-generation iPod Touch, in addition to the latest Mac system lineup. Due to their recent release dates, these latest iDevices weren't added in the previous suit filed by VirnetX.

VirnetX has a history of suing technology firms including Microsoft, of which it won a settlement of $200 million. It's currently suing Cisco, Avaya, and other companies for the alleged infringement of its patents.

 

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    aftcomet , November 9, 2012 9:02 PM
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    masterasia , November 9, 2012 9:03 PM
    So surprising that Apple didn't innovate this technology either.
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    ikyung , November 9, 2012 9:07 PM
    Apple's reaping what it sowed, but even then, as a fan of technology in general, it pains me to see the advancement of technology and science stalling due to problems in totally different sectors like bureaucracy.
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    aftcomet , November 9, 2012 9:02 PM
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    masterasia , November 9, 2012 9:03 PM
    So surprising that Apple didn't innovate this technology either.
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    ikyung , November 9, 2012 9:07 PM
    Apple's reaping what it sowed, but even then, as a fan of technology in general, it pains me to see the advancement of technology and science stalling due to problems in totally different sectors like bureaucracy.
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    A Bad Day , November 9, 2012 9:09 PM
    It kinda reminds me of a article that talked about a possible parasite that resides within cells' nucleus: It's a mutated genetic piece.

    Parasites within fleas, which has parasites within them as well...

    Seems kinda similar to the patent warfare.
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    wannabepro , November 9, 2012 9:32 PM
    This kinda makes me angry. I'm no fan of Apple, but this is far worse. Patent troll companies who do nothing except patent ideas that aren't their own or sue companies for so called 'patent infringement'. It's just stupid..
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    ThisIsMe , November 9, 2012 9:39 PM
    I read those patents that were listed. They do nothing more than describe pre-existing products, techniques, and methods that long predate their filings. I have been using and installing products that have infringed these patents for years before their claimed discovery/invention even existed.
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    dauntekong , November 9, 2012 9:46 PM
    I.... Love... KARMA!!!!! HAHAHAHA!

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    jdwii , November 9, 2012 10:05 PM
    Ha ha hope it happens again and again to them until they stop patenting everything and claiming everything was theirs
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    kracker , November 9, 2012 10:21 PM
    HAHAHA! Apple is reaping what they sowed, however, this is a patent troll however...
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    Pinhedd , November 9, 2012 10:29 PM
    ThisIsMeI read those patents that were listed. They do nothing more than describe pre-existing products, techniques, and methods that long predate their filings. I have been using and installing products that have infringed these patents for years before their claimed discovery/invention even existed.


    Patent descriptions don't mean anything. The specific claims are what matter. It is entirely possible for two different patents to do the same thing via different approaches.
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    jhansonxi , November 9, 2012 10:32 PM
    iScrewed
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    bllue , November 9, 2012 11:39 PM
    Keep the lawsuits against Apple coming please
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    vittau , November 10, 2012 12:23 AM
    Both are patent trolls, so I have a hard time siding with either one...
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    fuzzion , November 10, 2012 12:57 AM
    iKarma
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    baconeater , November 10, 2012 1:29 AM
    If you're not from America ignore this:

    Look I understand the Apple hate and everything. I am by no means an Apple user of any sort. But you guys are looking at this all wrong. I hear these comments about people wanting Apple to be destroyed. We need companies to succeed in America, they create jobs. Without industry power we will lose our economic strength. I've lived several places internationally, and I would rather have the economical power of the US. Innovative products, availability, price.

    Hate all you want, you DO NOT HAVE TO BUY. People think apple has a gun to your head to buy their products. They are ~15% of the personal computing market or something? why does this bother you do badly? Hate them or not they push other manufacturers to develop new stuff, i.e. the Nexus 10 has the new highest resolution screen. Would they be pushing technology without competitors? Yes, but more slowly for sure.
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    Maxor127 , November 10, 2012 3:10 AM
    baconeaterIf you're not from America ignore this:Look I understand the Apple hate and everything. I am by no means an Apple user of any sort. But you guys are looking at this all wrong. I hear these comments about people wanting Apple to be destroyed. We need companies to succeed in America, they create jobs. Without industry power we will lose our economic strength. I've lived several places internationally, and I would rather have the economical power of the US. Innovative products, availability, price.Hate all you want, you DO NOT HAVE TO BUY. People think apple has a gun to your head to buy their products. They are ~15% of the personal computing market or something? why does this bother you do badly? Hate them or not they push other manufacturers to develop new stuff, i.e. the Nexus 10 has the new highest resolution screen. Would they be pushing technology without competitors? Yes, but more slowly for sure.

    People are ignorant. Just look at comments from the last election. Republicans would rather see America be destroyed than support Democrats. Unless someone works for one of the companies or owns stock in them, then it's stupid to be blindly loyal or blindly hate one company, or to single out one company as "the worst" when they're all the effing same.
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    slabbo , November 10, 2012 5:26 AM
    Maxor127People are ignorant. Just look at comments from the last election. Republicans would rather see America be destroyed than support Democrats. Unless someone works for one of the companies or owns stock in them, then it's stupid to be blindly loyal or blindly hate one company, or to single out one company as "the worst" when they're all the effing same.


    Ignorant people are those who don't see that it's all a puppet show. Doesn't matter if the president is Democrat or Republican, because they are owned by the same puppet master. They are just putting on a side show and arguing about tiny social issues that aren't even decided by them but by the states. You really think being pro-life or choice matters, when these issues aren't even decided by the president? These 2 parties are 93% the same. They spout off different rhetoric but act the same. More wars, less liberty, more bail outs to their buddies, counterfeiting more money...etc. Look at the past actions of Bush and Obama, they mirror one another. Do you really think these guys are any different?
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    mdahlke , November 10, 2012 5:50 AM
    baconeaterIf you're not from America ignore this:Look I understand the Apple hate and everything. I am by no means an Apple user of any sort. But you guys are looking at this all wrong. I hear these comments about people wanting Apple to be destroyed. We need companies to succeed in America, they create jobs. Without industry power we will lose our economic strength. I've lived several places internationally, and I would rather have the economical power of the US. Innovative products, availability, price.Hate all you want, you DO NOT HAVE TO BUY. People think apple has a gun to your head to buy their products. They are ~15% of the personal computing market or something? why does this bother you do badly? Hate them or not they push other manufacturers to develop new stuff, i.e. the Nexus 10 has the new highest resolution screen. Would they be pushing technology without competitors? Yes, but more slowly for sure.


    It's not about hating Apple or the competition they provide. It's the fact that they claim to be something over and over again when they are not. How many of their commercials say that they are "innovative"?
    All of them.
    How innovative are they?
    They are not.
    Almost everything they have claimed to have done first was done before them and better than them (I wouldn't be surprised if they claimed they have revolutionized GPS and maps for mobile devices).
    They are liars, and they cheat the people who do not have a passion for technology like the people that frequent this site and that is not why we are in this industry.
    Apple has made good products but they claim that they innovated all this stuff when in fact they haven't.
    They have also come out with 4 almost identical phones and put a different number behind it (and in one case an s) and said "thanks for bending over."

    p.s. Why would you advertise $10 earbuds when you are trying to market your "lastest (new iOS) and greatest (same shit, different phone)" product?
    "You're ear isn't round. We don't know what shape it is. So we innovated a new shape and we're calling it ovalish. Buy our overpriced phone that you already have."
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    Anonymous , November 10, 2012 7:23 AM
    apple is stupid for having high prices. if they competed with PC, they would win hands down. Guess they don't want to own the market? It's the best of both worlds. All the programs of Windows with the power of Unix! and some other apple stuff like facetime. only thing missing is affordable prices. then apple would rule the world.
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    zybch , November 10, 2012 8:46 AM
    thebrettmanapple is stupid for having high prices. if they competed with PC, they would win hands down. Guess they don't want to own the market? It's the best of both worlds. All the programs of Windows with the power of Unix! and some other apple stuff like facetime. only thing missing is affordable prices. then apple would rule the world.

    "All the programs of windows" Yeah, right.
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