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Intel to Show Off Next-gen Atom at IDF in April

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Forget Oak Trail, who's ready for some Cedar Trail?

Intel is going to be introducing something new at IDF Beijing next month. Kicking off on April 12, UMPC Portal reports that one of the sessions promises to afford attendees first looks at the next-gen Atom platform.

According to the IDF session catalog, the session, dubbed "Designing a New Generation of Netbooks with the Intel Atom Processor Based Platform" will will cover the following topics:

• Platform capabilities enabled by Intel® WiFi solutions that deliver new netbook usage models
• Features and benefits overview of the next generation Intel Atom processor based platform
• Thermal solutions for cool and quiet fanless netbook designs
• Exciting demonstrations

Other than that, details are thin on the ground. However, there are several other Atom-related sessions scheduled to take place at IDF next month. These are: "The Intel Atom Processor Based Platform Advantage," "Designing Affordable Solutions for Entry-Level Desktops with the Intel Atom Processor," "Developing Intel Atom Processor Based Tablets," "Optimizing Touch Experience on Intel Atom Processor Based Platforms," "Intel Atom Processor Power Optimization Guide," and finally, "Hands-on Lab: Embedded Application Graphic and Video Performance with the Intel Atom Processor E6XX Platform."

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    Yuka , March 22, 2011 1:38 AM
    "Designing a New Generation of Netbooks with the Intel Atom Processor Based Platform"

    That new design means: No Flash, No 3D rendering and crappy CPU capabilities.

    Unless they pack it in like 12W (the full system) it's gonna suck.

    Cheers!
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    shuffman37 , March 22, 2011 1:47 AM
    So, a waste of money and development efforts. They already have great architectures that could be scaled down while maintaining a good IPC. Just take I5, drop some cache and make things as leak proof as possible. A "i5" type arch with hyperthreading even at 800mhz would eat any current Atom for lunch. Hell, my old 1.7ghz P4 would knock the Atoms at any kind of intensive single threaded tasks like Flash acceleration.....
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    buckiller , March 22, 2011 2:28 AM
    Anand Chandrasekher Senior VP and General Manager of the Ultra Mobility Group just left the company. Perhaps because of Intel's lack of win in the market?
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    ta152h , March 22, 2011 2:35 AM
    People keep forgetting that Atom isn't just about low power, it's about low cost as well. It's extremely small, and thus inexpensive.

    Not everyone lives in the United States, and in very poor countries, the money they can save using this platform can make the difference between between having a computer and not having a computer. And having an Atom, especially a dual core, means being able to do all of what over 95% of the people use a computer for.


    Compared to not having a computer at all, the difference between an Atom and a Sandy Bridge is nothing.
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    prodigygamer , March 22, 2011 2:57 AM
    TA152HPeople keep forgetting that Atom isn't just about low power, it's about low cost as well. It's extremely small, and thus inexpensive. Not everyone lives in the United States, and in very poor countries, the money they can save using this platform can make the difference between between having a computer and not having a computer. And having an Atom, especially a dual core, means being able to do all of what over 95% of the people use a computer for.Compared to not having a computer at all, the difference between an Atom and a Sandy Bridge is nothing.


    ""Designing a New Generation of Netbooks with the Intel Atom Processor Based Platform" will will cover the following topics:"

    Wtf, is there an echo in here I am missing missing? :) 
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    tsnorquist , March 22, 2011 3:06 AM
    @TA152H

    You're spot on. Further, these types of chips will be used in TVs, Cars, Appliances, etc.

    I imagine a low power server farm could benefit from such architecture as well.
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    dogman_1234 , March 22, 2011 3:25 AM
    ^ That is what they are planning.
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    jimmysmitty , March 22, 2011 3:28 AM
    buckillerAnand Chandrasekher Senior VP and General Manager of the Ultra Mobility Group just left the company. Perhaps because of Intel's lack of win in the market?


    And yet how many Netbooks can you buy that don't have Atom?

    Atom created the Netbook market.

    My guess would be, much like Ivy Bridge thats being shown off in May, it will be based on Intels 22nm process. If so, it will kill anything on a performance/power scale.
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    buckiller , March 22, 2011 5:20 AM
    jimmysmittyAnd yet how many Netbooks can you buy that don't have Atom?Atom created the Netbook market. My guess would be, much like Ivy Bridge thats being shown off in May, it will be based on Intels 22nm process. If so, it will kill anything on a performance/power scale.


    The UMG is for smartphones. Intel is getting killed in that market. ARM is a big time contender in post-pc devices and the software houses are realizing. Windows 8 will be available for ARM architectures.
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    eddieroolz , March 22, 2011 5:31 AM
    Atom has outlived its usefulness here, but as TA152H points out it may still have uses in special applications and in foreign nations.
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    palladin9479 , March 22, 2011 7:04 AM
    Quote:
    "The Intel Atom Processor Based Platform Advantage"


    Sounds way to much like their previous OEM "partnership agreements" where they held the OEM's by the nuts and forced them to use Intel only for everything inside the machine (CPU + Intel Chipset + Intel Network + anything else).
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    ta152h , March 22, 2011 11:30 AM
    prodigygamer""Designing a New Generation of Netbooks with the Intel Atom Processor Based Platform" will will cover the following topics:"Wtf, is there an echo in here I am missing missing?


    No, but there's a comma you are missing.
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    foxalopex , March 22, 2011 12:23 PM
    I suspect that AMD's Brezos Fusion platform is making a dent in Intel's Atom market. Until Intel learns how to put a decent GPU on die with the Atom CPU, I imagine this will be a bit of a losing game.
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    mateau , March 22, 2011 1:17 PM
    Oak-trail will evidently NOT support PCI bus.
    http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/ftc_allows_intel_ship_oak_trail_without_pci-express_support

    Intel is developing a proprietary bus that will squeeze out Nvidia and anyone else who wants to provide peripherals for Intel CPU's. ATOM is just the beginning.

    Eliminating PC also reduces the motherboard size and expense and power demand. Integrated systems also do not allow for add-on upgrades like discrete graphics. Nvidia just lost market share here.
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    Anonymous , March 22, 2011 2:52 PM
    @mateau

    agreed but for one small issue, nVidia will be pushing tegra which will compete directly with these chips, there's no reason nVidia should be supporting the competition when they could be pushing their own chips, if tegra sells well nVidia wont be losing market share they be stealing intel's
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    sonofliberty08 , March 22, 2011 4:22 PM
    TA152HPeople keep forgetting that Atom isn't just about low power, it's about low cost as well. It's extremely small, and thus inexpensive. Not everyone lives in the United States, and in very poor countries, the money they can save using this platform can make the difference between between having a computer and not having a computer. And having an Atom, especially a dual core, means being able to do all of what over 95% of the people use a computer for.Compared to not having a computer at all, the difference between an Atom and a Sandy Bridge is nothing.

    ppl keep forgetting atom is about low performance , low resolution , low fps , low class and some low IT knowledge noob or fanboy will like to pick one :D 
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    ta152h , March 22, 2011 4:37 PM
    sonofliberty08ppl keep forgetting atom is about low performance , low resolution , low fps , low class and some low IT knowledge noob or fanboy will like to pick one


    You make the common mistake that just because a product isn't for everyone, it's for no one.

    I have worked in IT for almost 30 years, and I'd buy an Atom, I just wouldn't buy it as my main computer. As a kitchen appliance, or in my sun room, or a guest room, it would be ideal since it's very low power, and easily found in mini-ITX, and doesn't make noise.

    You can't take a product out its context, and judge it. A Sandy Bridge is a piece of crap for smart phones. Does that make it worthless? An Atom is not a replacement for mainstream processors, so don't judge it in that context. For the size of the die, the performance is extremely good, far better than Sandy Bridge, especially on threaded applications. Intel did a great job keeping it extremely small, and if you judge it by the cost of production, you see a product that meets the needs of a lot of people, but is incredibly inexpensive to make. That's a good and useful product. It just might not be for you. But, do you think a family in a poor country doesn't appreciate the massive cost savings ($300 a month is very good pay in some poor countries) this platform offers? And on top of that, it saves on the electrical bill.

    Intel expanded the market with the Atom, and brought the price for a computer down so people who wouldn't otherwise be able to get them, can actually own a computer instead of paying to go to a Cyber Cafe and pay to share one with other people. Intel surely did this to make money, but it doesn't change the fact that this product is helpful to a lot of poor people in many countries, because it allows them to own something they otherwise would be unable to. And it's not even close to be useless, and it's a lot faster than walking to someplace to rent a computer. So, I can understand why a lot of people don't want an Atom, but, at the same time that doesn't make it useless.
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    ien2222 , March 22, 2011 5:18 PM
    sonofliberty08ppl keep forgetting atom is about low performance , low resolution , low fps , low class and some low IT knowledge noob or fanboy will like to pick one


    Also, on top of the butt kicking TA152H just gave you:

    These are also excellent for server farms where I/O are the only consideration and processing power is not needed. The energy and cost savings these bring as compared to Xeons or even i7/i5/i3 is substantial and are already being implemented on the professional level. 'Course, if you weren't such a noob, you'd have known that.
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    mosu , March 22, 2011 7:25 PM
    In the same power envelope an AMD E350 mops the floor with any Atom based Intel solution, at a smaller price tag, so they better come with a competitive piece of hardware.In the low power server farms I'll put my money on ARM 'cause I never saw Intel quad core in a 5 watt power envelope.I love competition!
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    ta152h , March 22, 2011 9:18 PM
    mosuIn the same power envelope an AMD E350 mops the floor with any Atom based Intel solution, at a smaller price tag, so they better come with a competitive piece of hardware.In the low power server farms I'll put my money on ARM 'cause I never saw Intel quad core in a 5 watt power envelope.I love competition!


    Actually, the Atom beats the E350 in many benchmarks, and has a smaller dier. Your data is flawed. The Bobcat is better at single-threaded apps, and if that's where you need performance, it's better. It's also married to a better IGP. The Atom has better multi-threaded performance in many cases (in order processors benefit more from hyper-threading than out of order processors), and uses less power in most cases (unless married to NVIDIA crap). So, they're both good.




    I don't know where you're getting your prices from, but
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