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Baldur's Gate 3 In Long-Term Picture, Says Beamdog

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The two upcoming Enhanced Editions could be followed by a Kickstarter-funded Baldur's Gate 3.

Last week brought a little excitement to Baldur's Gate fans thanks to Beamdog and a countdown timer planted on the baldursgate.com website. Once the numbers hit zero, the company revealed that Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition was in the works, set for a summer release, followed by Baldur's Gate 2 Enhanced Edition. While updated versions with new and original content sound fascinating, it was still a little disappointing that the announcement had nothing to do with an actual third installment to the classic series.

But there's still a glimmer of hope. According to Beamdog/Overhaul's Cameron Tofer, Baldur's Gate 3 has been the team's long term goal. "We have a lot of things to put in place before such a project can be launched," he said. "So currently there is no such project but that's the one we want to do. Our thoughts have been that Enhanced Edition for Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 just make sense before there's any Baldur's Gate 3."

"We're totally thinking Kickstarter," he added. "It just makes so much sense and solves so many problems. I think what Brian [Fargo] is doing with Wasteland is very interesting."

Tofer is referring to a Kickstarter campaign to fund a sequel to the 1988 role-playing game Wasteland. With 28 days to go, the campaign has thus far acquired 25,955 backers and pledges worth $1,381,330 USD (the goal is $900,000 USD). inXile will reportedly use the extra money to primarily build a bigger world with more maps, stories and music, but if the fund reaches $1.5 million, the team will add even more environments, story elements, characters and challenges. There would even be an OS X version.

As for the Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition, Tofer provided a little more insight into what will be new. "We've been adding side stories, stories to tie things together, unfinished stories," Tofer said. "As far as new types of abilities, we have more announcements coming. I truly believe that the story and the characters behind are timeless and will have no problem reaching a new generation. Technology will be the access barrier that we're hoping to eliminate."

Tofer talks more about the Enhanced Editions here with GameSpy.

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    demonhorde665 , March 20, 2012 6:46 AM
    alidanlook at mass effect 1->2->3look at dragon age 1->2do we really want a Baldur's Gate 3 from current bioware? the enhanced editions are welcome because they shouldn't be screwing with whats already there, just making it play nice on a modern os/computer.


    i take it you missed out on the fact that this is being developed by Beam dog and published by Atari NOT bioware. for christ sakes , how many more peopel do i need to tell this too

    Bioware , no longer works for Atari here is teh relation of companies

    hasbro owns atari

    hasbro owns Wizards of The Coast

    Wizards of the coast Owns ALL things DnD , After TSR went bankrupt WoTC bought them adn all thier ip's and asorbed most of their work force. WoTC licenses DnD to Atari ONLY they don't license DnD IP to competitors this way

    Baldur's Gate is a city that is set in Forgotten realms which in turn is a DnD campaign world.
    when the BG series first came out it was being licensed to Black Isle through TSR , that license ended the day WoTC bought and absorbed TSR because WoTC now owned the IP. Bioware in turn started developing for Atari because WoTC wanted them to be the developers of the DnD Games and because it simplified matters to keep bioware in the loop, Black isle went chapter 11 however.

    Bioware hasn't worked for atari in a LONG time , Bioware works for EA now and has since before ME 1 came out i think the last game they did under atari was Jade Empire.

    now put these facts together and you should get to the conclusion that BIOWARE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS RE-RELEASE PROJECT.

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    Lord Captivus , March 20, 2012 12:17 PM
    Please dont change the difficulty level on the Enhanced Edition! dont "level" fights!
    I loved to get my ass kicked when i entered the wrong room at the wrong time...(OMG! Did that guy just summon a Dragon!!)
    Ok...ill be see YOU soon...

    - Exit
    - Load

    ...Few days later...

    - Guess whos BACK!!
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    alidan , March 20, 2012 3:47 AM
    look at mass effect 1->2->3
    look at dragon age 1->2

    do we really want a Baldur's Gate 3 from current bioware?
    the enhanced editions are welcome because they shouldn't be screwing with whats already there, just making it play nice on a modern os/computer.
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    amk-aka-Phantom , March 20, 2012 3:53 AM
    alidanlook at mass effect 1->2->3look at dragon age 1->2do we really want a Baldur's Gate 3 from current bioware? the enhanced editions are welcome because they shouldn't be screwing with whats already there, just making it play nice on a modern os/computer.


    Hehe, you're right. Not from current BioWare. ME3 is good but could've been even better had they not wasted their time on Kinect and such. BW needs to come back to PC and start making great games like NWN/KOTOR1 again!
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    doyletdude , March 20, 2012 4:13 AM
    Good thing Bioware isn't working on this intellectual property anymore. By the looks of things Baldur's Gate is owned by Atari and they are having this Beamdog developer work on the enhanced editions and possibly 3
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    demonhorde665 , March 20, 2012 6:46 AM
    alidanlook at mass effect 1->2->3look at dragon age 1->2do we really want a Baldur's Gate 3 from current bioware? the enhanced editions are welcome because they shouldn't be screwing with whats already there, just making it play nice on a modern os/computer.


    i take it you missed out on the fact that this is being developed by Beam dog and published by Atari NOT bioware. for christ sakes , how many more peopel do i need to tell this too

    Bioware , no longer works for Atari here is teh relation of companies

    hasbro owns atari

    hasbro owns Wizards of The Coast

    Wizards of the coast Owns ALL things DnD , After TSR went bankrupt WoTC bought them adn all thier ip's and asorbed most of their work force. WoTC licenses DnD to Atari ONLY they don't license DnD IP to competitors this way

    Baldur's Gate is a city that is set in Forgotten realms which in turn is a DnD campaign world.
    when the BG series first came out it was being licensed to Black Isle through TSR , that license ended the day WoTC bought and absorbed TSR because WoTC now owned the IP. Bioware in turn started developing for Atari because WoTC wanted them to be the developers of the DnD Games and because it simplified matters to keep bioware in the loop, Black isle went chapter 11 however.

    Bioware hasn't worked for atari in a LONG time , Bioware works for EA now and has since before ME 1 came out i think the last game they did under atari was Jade Empire.

    now put these facts together and you should get to the conclusion that BIOWARE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS RE-RELEASE PROJECT.

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    ethaniel , March 20, 2012 7:48 AM
    Now now, no need to rush. We need the Enhanced editions of both Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 first, including expansions. After that, they really need to make an Enhanced edition of Planescape: Torment. THEN... we'll talk BG3.
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    neiroatopelcc , March 20, 2012 9:11 AM
    amk-aka-PhantomBW needs to come back to PC and start making great games like NWN/KOTOR1 again!

    but kotor is rubish? it's one of the least stable games I've tried if ignoring the initial release of heroes of might and magic 4 before patches
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    Anonymous , March 20, 2012 10:20 AM
    @Demonhorde665 So close to a perfect score there, but just one niggling detail; Bioware doesn't *work* for EA now, EA actually completely owns Bioware. They're now a division of Electronic Arts, which breaks my heart.
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    neiroatopelcc , March 20, 2012 11:02 AM
    john_4Bioware is EA's new whore and it shows, look how pathetic Dragon Age 2 was.


    It wasn't as bad as the first in technical terms, so there is hope. But I'd rather have a game full of Leliana than more dwarves ...
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    Lord Captivus , March 20, 2012 12:17 PM
    Please dont change the difficulty level on the Enhanced Edition! dont "level" fights!
    I loved to get my ass kicked when i entered the wrong room at the wrong time...(OMG! Did that guy just summon a Dragon!!)
    Ok...ill be see YOU soon...

    - Exit
    - Load

    ...Few days later...

    - Guess whos BACK!!
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    Antimatter79 , March 20, 2012 12:50 PM
    demonhorde665i take it you missed out on the fact that this is being developed by Beam dog and published by Atari NOT bioware. for christ sakes , how many more peopel do i need to tell this too Bioware , no longer works for Atari here is teh relation of companies hasbro owns atari hasbro owns Wizards of The CoastWizards of the coast Owns ALL things DnD , After TSR went bankrupt WoTC bought them adn all thier ip's and asorbed most of their work force. WoTC licenses DnD to Atari ONLY they don't license DnD IP to competitors this way Baldur's Gate is a city that is set in Forgotten realms which in turn is a DnD campaign world. when the BG series first came out it was being licensed to Black Isle through TSR , that license ended the day WoTC bought and absorbed TSR because WoTC now owned the IP. Bioware in turn started developing for Atari because WoTC wanted them to be the developers of the DnD Games and because it simplified matters to keep bioware in the loop, Black isle went chapter 11 however. Bioware hasn't worked for atari in a LONG time , Bioware works for EA now and has since before ME 1 came out i think the last game they did under atari was Jade Empire. now put these facts together and you should get to the conclusion that BIOWARE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS RE-RELEASE PROJECT.


    Thanks so much for breaking it down. I had given up understanding the history over the years. I just know I love me some Baldur's Gate. If they can pull off Baldur's Gate 3 and it's at least as good as the previous releases, it will be a testament to what level of gaming experience can be achieved with a relatively small budget. Maybe more big companies will learn and adopt the philosophy that you can do more with less, and use the extra funds for more content, not big budget trailers that have nothing to do with how the game plays, and pop-up ads on website that nobody is going to click on anyways. Thanks again for the brief yet informative history lesson.
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    gokanis , March 20, 2012 1:32 PM
    An enhanced edition for both is a great idea to get interest in the games going again (unless your a fan like me and will get it no matter what). This will help get a little hype started for three. I would love to play the enhanced versions with some new content and some stories to tie things together. Then smack a three on us and blow us away.
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    furylicious , March 20, 2012 1:38 PM
    The Baldur's Gate series was probably my favorite games of all time, but I'm not confident in it if it's not being developed by BioWare. If they mess it up, even Jon Irenicus will turn in his grave.
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    Murissokah , March 20, 2012 1:47 PM
    It would be great if the existing mods were compatible with the enhanced versions. Very unlikely though.
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    Maxor127 , March 20, 2012 2:22 PM
    I don't see the point of a Baldur's Gate 3. There's nothing left to tell with that story and a Baldur's Gate 3 will probably end up being a new story with nothing really in common with the first two. So it will be trying to exist off of name recognition instead of standing on its own merits, which is a bad idea.

    From what I've read, it sounds like the enhanced edition will be just a glorified mod. The games will need at least a graphical overhaul to make me interested. It can keep the isometric perspective, but some 3D rendering would be nice. And maybe even some camera zooming and rotating to avoid exploring behind buildings with dithered sprites. Improved multiplayer would be greatly appreciated as well.
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    Anonymous , March 20, 2012 2:54 PM
    All I gotta say is....Go for the EYES BOO!! Go for the EYES!!
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    Prey , March 20, 2012 5:08 PM
    There could be another child of Bhaal. At this point when you played the the series, the joy wasn't so much the primary story line, but the many many other side quests which were in depth and involved too. That formula proves quite successful even now, look at Skyrim. Baldurs Gate (primarily 2) was an entire world, much more so than Skyrim. The problem most people have with Baldurs Gate is that it's too open ended and requires a bit more in the realm of tactics.
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    amk-aka-Phantom , March 20, 2012 5:15 PM
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    but kotor is rubish? it's one of the least stable games I've tried if ignoring the initial release of heroes of might and magic 4 before patches


    No, it's not rubbish. I only had two problems with it:

    1) Had to turn off grass - the game crashed with it on since my crappy Intel integrated graphics couldn't support it. After that, beat the whole game w/o issues.

    2) Doesn't support Windows 7, so I can't play it on my new rig.

    This makes me remember the "remastered" MDK2 """HD""" which didn't really look so much better than the original. Hopefully this case will be different.
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    alidan , March 20, 2012 5:43 PM
    amk-aka-PhantomHehe, you're right. Not from current BioWare. ME3 is good but could've been even better had they not wasted their time on Kinect and such. BW needs to come back to PC and start making great games like NWN/KOTOR1 again!


    i was more considering the moving away from actual rpg elements and making it basically a straight up action game, and from dragon age, having... kind of a world to explore, and moving it to a city where every environment became the same, cumulateing in the fact that the game stepped away from rpg again too.


    demonhorde665i take it you missed out on the fact that this is being developed by Beam dog and published by Atari NOT bioware. for christ sakes , how many more peopel do i need to tell this too Bioware , no longer works for Atari here is teh relation of companies hasbro owns atari hasbro owns Wizards of The CoastWizards of the coast Owns ALL things DnD , After TSR went bankrupt WoTC bought them adn all thier ip's and asorbed most of their work force. WoTC licenses DnD to Atari ONLY they don't license DnD IP to competitors this way Baldur's Gate is a city that is set in Forgotten realms which in turn is a DnD campaign world. when the BG series first came out it was being licensed to Black Isle through TSR , that license ended the day WoTC bought and absorbed TSR because WoTC now owned the IP. Bioware in turn started developing for Atari because WoTC wanted them to be the developers of the DnD Games and because it simplified matters to keep bioware in the loop, Black isle went chapter 11 however. Bioware hasn't worked for atari in a LONG time , Bioware works for EA now and has since before ME 1 came out i think the last game they did under atari was Jade Empire. now put these facts together and you should get to the conclusion that BIOWARE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS RE-RELEASE PROJECT.


    did not know, im leaving the above comment because what i said stand for any rpg made by them...

    now trying to find anything on the beamdog or who may work on the Baldur's Gate 3, and i cant find much... anyidea? i dont like the idea of a company who has only done remakes to work on the seriese almost as much as i dont like the idea of bioware doing it.
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    Murissokah , March 20, 2012 5:54 PM
    Maxor127I don't see the point of a Baldur's Gate 3. There's nothing left to tell with that story and a Baldur's Gate 3 will probably end up being a new story with nothing really in common with the first two. So it will be trying to exist off of name recognition instead of standing on its own merits, which is a bad idea.From what I've read, it sounds like the enhanced edition will be just a glorified mod. The games will need at least a graphical overhaul to make me interested. It can keep the isometric perspective, but some 3D rendering would be nice. And maybe even some camera zooming and rotating to avoid exploring behind buildings with dithered sprites. Improved multiplayer would be greatly appreciated as well.



    I agree that there will not, or at least there should not, be any relation between the new BG and the old story. I still think it makes sense, since Baldur's Gate was part of the forgotten realms setting before it was made into a game. It's like Neverwinter Nights (or any other D&D game for that matter). Different stories that happen inside the same fantasy world, and it makes sense since Forgotten Realms is such a rich setting.

    Looking foward for the enhanced version of the old games, if it turns out good enough, we can have our hopes up for BG3. And if they resort to kickstarter, money won't be an issue.
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    n3ard3ath , March 20, 2012 9:32 PM
    Isn't BG TuTu already some kind of BG Enhanced Edition? And I just bought the BG Collection DVD of Amazon damn...Ah well, it was only 10$.
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