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MSI Bringing "Killer" NIC Tech to MoBos?

by - source: Hot Hardware

MSI and Bigfoot Networks will announce a joint venture next week at CES 2011.

HotHardware acquired a press release from MSI Computer Corp earlier this week that announced an upcoming partnership with Bigfoot Networks. Both companies will be sharing the stage at CES 2011 next week jointly showcasing new computing and PC gaming solutions.

According to the PR-- which is directed to those in the press attending the show-- spectators will see "the benefits a Killer 2100 gaming network card can offer as an upgrade to even an industry-leading motherboard." It's speculated that this comment could be hinting to a new unannounced motherboard with integrated Bigfoot technology.

"We are pleased to be working with MSI," said Michael Howse, CEO of Bigfoot Networks. "The Killer 2100 gaming network card is a perfect complement to the MSI Big Bang family of mainboard solutions that will give gamers a competitive edge in online play."

MSI said that it will be giving away Bigfoot Networks Killer 2100 cards within its prize drawings at the annual MSI Master Overclocking Arena (MOA) Overclockers event, taking place on January 6th during CES 2011. The company also added that it will be teaming up with Bigfoot Networks to pursue a variety of joint marketing programs in 2011 with leading online and retail outlets.

Although adding Bigfoot's Killer 2100 NIC tech to gaming-oriented MSI motherboards seems logical, it's quite possible that the companies will join forces to offer a motherboard/network card bundle. Either way, we'll find out next week during MSI's Press Conference and Technology Showcase event immediately following CES Unveiled on January 4th at Bellini 2006 in The Venetian.

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abswindows7 12/31/2010 11:46 PM
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My next mobo might now be a MSI :)

christop 01/01/2011 12:23 PM
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All the review I have read about this nic shows no improvements over the normal one that comes on board. I would guess this will add another 100 bucks to the price also.

deadlockedworld 01/01/2011 12:46 PM
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christop :
All the review I have read about this nic shows no improvements over the normal one that comes on board. I would guess this will add another 100 bucks to the price also.



I agree. Is there unbiased proof it does anything useful?

stm1185 01/01/2011 12:47 PM
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The big bang mobos already come with pcie sound cards, so bundling a NIC card with it as well wouldnt be that big of a surprise. I would go MSI over Asus for that feature if it does not add any cost.

Haserath 01/01/2011 12:55 PM
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Tom's needs to do a review of the newest Killer 2100 card, since they seemed to have improved it over their last gen.

I would definitely try the card if it had 2 ports with a $60 price tag, but as of now it only has 1 port for $70 at newegg.

Blessedman 01/01/2011 12:57 PM
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I think all mobo's should have a built in co-processor that handles nothing but audio and networking tasks.

jskilnyk 01/01/2011 1:11 AM
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I don't understand why buying that thing is such a big deal. Spend $30 on an Intel based PCI or PCI-E NIC and it will have just the same performance.

LLJones 01/01/2011 1:27 AM
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Does anybody actually do any research before they post a comment? Here is another idea, try owning the product before commenting the usefulness of it. Or at the very least, you've tried the component for a while.

I have a Killer nic (2007) and it does work. It only dropped my ping by 2ms BUT, there was a definite improvement when all hell breaks loose on the battlefield.

As for your review

http://www.kitguru.net/networking/ [...] rd-review/

See you(first) on the battlefield.

boiler1990 01/01/2011 1:29 AM
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Couple this with the new Lucid Hydra chip and MSI could have one of the best all-around motherboards for gamers on their hands...

Proxy711 01/01/2011 1:33 AM
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The killer nic has some cool features like allowing the nic to take over the processing of VOIP and torrent configs but really the every day user isn't going to use that and spending that money would be better spent on other hardware.

If MSI can add this tech without any added cost that would be great.

LORD_ORION 01/01/2011 1:34 AM
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How does a NIC make your crappy ISP better? :)

mayne92 01/01/2011 1:43 AM
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lljones :
Does anybody actually do any research before they post a comment? Here is another idea, try owning the product before commenting the usefulness of it. Or at the very least, you've tried the component for a while. I have a Killer nic (2007) and it does work. It only dropped my ping by 2ms BUT, there was a definite improvement when all hell breaks loose on the battlefield. As for your reviewSee you(first) on the battlefield.


Yeah, I have read plenty of reviews on this product for years and the price/performance ratio is not even worth it...to this day! And I told you that without even owning it! :)

jamessneed 01/01/2011 2:05 AM
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Don't want it if it costs more than a dollar or two. My router and just about any current router does QOS which is essentailly the same thing. The QOS on the router will make sure when I play games that other network traffic say wife browsing the web etc gets a lower priority. I just don't get optimizing a NIC like this since at best you might get 2-3ms lower pings and thats if you have a failry slow internet connection. Everytimme I see something on Killer NIC cards I wonder how they are still around.

jamessneed 01/01/2011 2:22 AM
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btw I have read reviews on this card and it seems milage will vary. Most games today primarily use UDP which is a very lightweight protocol. If you want lower TCP pings in games like WOW google "Leatrix Latency Fix".

knowom 01/01/2011 2:29 AM
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Why would anyone buy a Killer NIC over a Intel NIC for around double the cost?

I see no advantage sure their are some fancy throttling features the Killer Nic software can do, but a open source router can be set to do the same thing for the entire network and from a earlier section of the input data signal chain. Most of the throttling options are also commonly available for software you'd actually use it with like torrents.

A open source router+intel nic can be had for right about the same cost as a killer nic so it make no sense at all getting a killer nic.

Anonymous 01/01/2011 2:47 AM
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id rather see them push for fiber optic cable mass adoption to reduce packet-loss and improve online fps

apache_lives 01/01/2011 3:16 AM
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two piles of garbage dont make a right

MSI is so rubbish i cant believe people even consider there products

mavroxur 01/01/2011 4:21 AM
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After reading the piles of comments from people, it's very obvious that people don't understand the benefits of offloading the TCP stack to a hardware engine, instead of letting the OS handle the stack. The benefits are proven, and have been several times. Do your research before spouting off uneducated comments.

apache_lives 01/01/2011 4:26 AM
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mavroxur :
After reading the piles of comments from people, it's very obvious that people don't understand the benefits of offloading the TCP stack to a hardware engine, instead of letting the OS handle the stack. The benefits are proven, and have been several times. Do your research before spouting off uneducated comments.



When im paying $200 for something IM EXPECTING $200 WORTH OF RESULTS

MSI will never bring results, nor will an overpriced network card.

kingnoobe 01/01/2011 5:55 AM
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I suggest you do your research mav, as everything I've seen so far. It has very little improvement in any real scenerios.

apache_lives 01/01/2011 6:33 AM
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lljones :
Does anybody actually do any research before they post a comment? Here is another idea, try owning the product before commenting the usefulness of it. Or at the very least, you've tried the component for a while. I have a Killer nic (2007) and it does work. It only dropped my ping by 2ms BUT, there was a definite improvement when all hell breaks loose on the battlefield. As for your reviewhttp://www.kitguru.net/networking/ [...] rd-review/See you(first) on the battlefield.



Is that worth hundreds of dollars? Have you ever used an Intel branded network controller?

boiler1990 :
Couple this with the new Lucid Hydra chip and MSI could have one of the best all-around motherboards for gamers on their hands...



Lucid Hyrda is software bound - dead end, its why stupid MSI is the only company who looked at it, msi is all show and no guns - pure rubbish.

joytech22 01/01/2011 9:05 AM
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Q: Why spend hundreds on a NIC to drop ping by 3ms?

A: Because people buy it.

-MSI Marketing Strategy-

pocketdrummer 01/01/2011 9:56 AM
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mavroxur :
After reading the piles of comments from people, it's very obvious that people don't understand the benefits of offloading the TCP stack to a hardware engine, instead of letting the OS handle the stack. The benefits are proven, and have been several times. Do your research before spouting off uneducated comments.



You are aware that the cheapest Killer NIC card is $77 on newegg, right? If you did your research, you'd find that putting $77 into, say, a faster video card would show much better results than this worthless card. If they physically integrated this into MSI motherboards and reduced the price, I could stand by that. But, I'm not going to waste a pci slot on an over-priced, under-performing product.

malmental 01/01/2011 2:09 PM
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it might be a nice addition to the 'getting better' Intel boards..

shin0bi272 01/01/2011 2:29 PM
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mavroxur :
After reading the piles of comments from people, it's very obvious that people don't understand the benefits of offloading the TCP stack to a hardware engine, instead of letting the OS handle the stack. The benefits are proven, and have been several times. Do your research before spouting off uneducated comments.



Im guessing you have a dual core cpu. Those of us with Quad cores (and ht) dont have a problem offloading the tcp stack to the OS because we can spare an ENTIRE CPU CORE to do it. I spend my money on 3 or 4 places in my system builds. 1) the cpu 2)the gpu 3) the psu 4) some times the motherboard depending on what is out there at the time... spending half or more for what I paid for my cpu on a nic to lower latency in games by a whopping 2-3ms is retarded. Offloading tasks to the nic is great for a server because its got thousands of connections that it's handling at once... my gaming rig... not so much.

applegetsmelaid 01/01/2011 6:57 PM
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Hmmm... what does it do?

rubix_1011 01/01/2011 6:59 PM
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QoS on your router will perform the same way.

Here is the biggest factor: your internet is only as fast as your ISP allows, whether that be a throttled connection or a crappy pipe. Your $150 NIC isn't going to make a difference. If you want packet priority (QoS), read the manual for your router...it already does it.

Killer NIC...digital 'Snake Oil'.

shloader 01/01/2011 7:06 PM
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@shin0bi272 - You're spot on. To add to your argument I ask anyone who would try to rationalize this card to consider this one point of logic; The extended capabilities of your nic are something you may utilize a portion of the time and perhaps not that greatly. As for allocating that money toward your CPU well there's something you can utilize far more often in a variety of ways. I will say from experience in just file transfers a Realtek or Via network chip is rarely ever a match against a good budget Intel PCIe card.

COLGeek 01/01/2011 7:37 PM
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Not really worth the minimal gain in performance in the "bang for your buck" equation. Sounds cool to the uninformed.

Happy New Year!

Lutfij 01/01/2011 8:46 PM
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horrible idea for a cost conscious buyer who wants bragging rights :P

But i'd definitely get a msi board that sported a BIGFOOT killer on it :)

Lutfij 01/01/2011 9:09 PM
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oh and happy new year!


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