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Last Firefox Update Was Because of Farmville

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Mozilla rolls out Firefox update to remedy FarmVille issue.

Mozilla rolled a pretty big update for Firefox at the end of last week. However, the company rolled out another update right after. It was a teeny, tiny, update that fixed just one problem (adding an increase hang detector timeout) and it looks like the reason for the update was FarmVille.

Gamasutra reports that Mozilla rolled out v3.6.6 because the previous update was causing problems in the wildly popular social-networking game, FarmVille. Some FarmVille users were complaining that Firefox v3.6.4 "hangs the browser long enough for [a] timeout to trigger and kill it". It seems the issue stems from Firefox's new feature that terminates Flash if it is not responsive. However, because the likes of FarmVille and MafiaWars take longer to load, unnecessarily triggering this hang protection feature.

So, the latest version of Firefox has been updated to include an interim solution that increases the timeout, as developers look for a more ideal fix.

Mozilla's Justin Dolske posted the following on Bugzilla:

"… now that 3.6.4 has shipped, we are seeing an increasing number of reports that some users are unable to play Farmville, because Farmville hangs the browser long enough for out timeout to trigger and kill it.  As an interm solution, we can increase the timeout and then look for a better solution. The SUMO article suggests that 30 seconds is a good value, so let's hit this with a big hammer and make it 45s."

Though FarmVille is mentioned specifically, a comment from Mike Beltzner, Director of Firefox at Mozilla, revealed the problem wasn't isolated to FarmVille. That said, it appears the surge in complaints from FarmVille users is what finally pushed Mozilla to release a temporary solution.

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lauxenburg 07/01/2010 11:33 PM
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I lack a legitimate comment.

Anomalyx 07/01/2010 11:39 PM
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I lack a legitimate sympathy for the affected farmvillers

Thunderfox 07/01/2010 11:43 PM
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They don't expect any flash app to take more than 30 seconds to load? Newgrounds might as well close up shop.

kurahk7 07/01/2010 11:47 PM
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Laugh Out Loud.

deltatux 07/01/2010 11:53 PM
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/facepalm, why not set the hang limit to 1 minute?

maestintaolius 07/01/2010 11:54 PM
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The only casual farming game worth playing is plants vs zombies anyway. :P

Pyroflea 07/01/2010 11:55 PM
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Thunderfox :
They don't expect any flash app to take more than 30 seconds to load? Newgrounds might as well close up shop.



Loading =/= Non-responsive

RipperjackAU 07/01/2010 11:57 PM
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Ha! Ha! Haaaaa! Trust Farmville to screw up firefox!

tpi2007 07/02/2010 12:08 PM
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What I don't understand is this simple fact - by the way, could Tom's investigate this ? - Why is this minor update called 3.66 instead of 3.65 ?

I've been to Mozilla's site and 3.6.5 does not exist at all. Why the jump from 3.6.4 to 3.6.6 ?

halcyon 07/02/2010 12:09 PM
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This news is way way late THG!

digitalrazoe 07/02/2010 12:28 PM
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My virtual crops died along time ago ... Cows ran off .. Cyotes probably ate the fowl ... and that was pre 3.6 so ... Thanks for the news but anyday Farmville rules the browsers ... it has gone too far ..

christop 07/02/2010 12:34 PM
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I have had problems as of late with firefox not opening on my desktop. I have done all the updates and it still acts buggy..

DM0407 07/02/2010 12:34 PM
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I had a solution to Farmville crashing.

It involves a noose, a piece of paper, and a pen.

drutort 07/02/2010 1:48 AM
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3.6.6 sucks, flash stuff crashes it like every other, and esp random ads that do that really sucks, im back to 3.6.3 though 3.7alpha looks good as far as mem and seems faster but still suffers exact same flash crashing as 3.6.6

drutort 07/02/2010 1:50 AM
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also i believe the crashing is due to the new 10.1 flash, previous 10.0.x didnt crash almost never but it seems that its very difficult to get older flash versions to work :/ or even find

bustapr 07/02/2010 2:55 AM
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Ok, ever since the updates my flash player has gone horribly wrong on youtube. Here it explains something about 45s timeout whatever. When I go watch youtube vids the video is fine for exactly 45s then flash crashes. I cant watch any videos because of this update, It used to work just fine. Im gonna switch to Chrome for the time being until they release a fix that actually fixes the problem.

FU FARMVILLE!!!!!

hunter315 07/02/2010 2:58 AM
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It kept people from playing farmville, and they fixed this feature why? I thought they were out to help the world and kill off everyone's addiction to farmville

Anonymous 07/02/2010 3:19 AM
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my farm js completely gone ******@yahoo.com

eddieroolz 07/02/2010 4:11 AM
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They've grown to a group that can influence broswer developers. That is scary.

vinehoyle 07/02/2010 5:56 AM
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f-14 07/02/2010 6:30 AM
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MMORPG guys from my vent server " man why play a stupid game like that, farmville isn't even any fun, only way it would be fun if is you could grow pot, and had to kill stuff to keep it from wrecking or stealing your crops, and you had to hide everything from the cops, and feeding your pot crop to your animals turned them into zombies"
this was said to me by brits and some dutch guys at 5:30am (GMT i think?) their time while they are waiting to watch the Dutch vs. Brazil world cup football game stoned out of their gords.

Luscious 07/02/2010 6:35 AM
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C:\ Attempting to give a fuck...
C:\ |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 99% Complete...
C:\ Error! Unable to give a fuck

dEAne 07/02/2010 12:34 PM
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Just for the farmville, lol

Regulas 07/02/2010 2:37 PM
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I still say ban the resource hogging advertisement platform known as Flash.

zaznet 07/02/2010 6:13 PM
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Thunderfox :
They don't expect any flash app to take more than 30 seconds to load? Newgrounds might as well close up shop.



It's not loading time it's "hang time" when the flash app stops doing anything visible to the user. Most of the flash apps I've seen on Newgrounds don't go into zombie mode (not responding) for 30 seconds or longer in the way that Farmville does.

abhifx 07/02/2010 6:23 PM
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already using firefox 4.0 alpha and it kicks ass, sadly i cant test it with farmville cause i dont play it. but... farmville is pushing a firefox latest release? maybe we do need one or two bloated games. farmville might replace acid test 3

ayssius 07/02/2010 7:07 PM
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Seriously Farmville? Yeah I think it's great. In a World where half our population is dying of hunger the more fortunate half is spending their time harvesting food that doesn't exist.

ckthecerealkiller 07/02/2010 7:24 PM
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Hahaha Mozilla had to provide a fix to patch Zynga's shitty servers.

bochica 07/03/2010 5:34 PM
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Thunderfox :
They don't expect any flash app to take more than 30 seconds to load? Newgrounds might as well close up shop.


As Pyroflea said, loading is not hanging. Hanging means nothing is responding at all.

When flash is loading, it actually has algorithms running to calculate bytes loaded and the max bytes of the flash application. This is what users will use to make loading bars. Therefore, when flash is loading something, it is actually making a response.

When a flash app hangs, it is just like a Windows blue screen. The app is frozen, and not sending any responses. Firefox having the kill switch is a good thing because you don't risk crashing the entire browser because a flash app went into a hang cycle.

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