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Valve Plans to Release Another Quick Sequel

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Valve plans to repeat the quick sequel process used with the release of Left 4 Dead 2.

On the heels of Valve's previous "three surprises" announcement, company boss Gabe Newell said that another quick-release sequel--as seen with the surprisingly fast outing of Left 4 Dead 2--will be released "at some point." He added that Valve learned a lesson with L4D2 in that it was a surprise to customers, and that there's a certain amount of entertainment value in that kind of quick release.

He also hinted to the backlash Valve received shortly after L4D2's launch. Fans of the original game claimed that there wasn't enough time to develop a true sequel, and insinuated that the resulting product was nothing more than a glorified expansion pack. The opinion seemingly changed over time as the game proved to be an outstanding sequel, receiving strong positive reviews.

"There's also a certain amount of fear value in that," Newell said, referring to a quick sequel process, "because the traditional surprise in the gaming industry is not 'Oh, I’m surprised: something good happened!' The traditional surprise is 'Oh, I’m surprised: X-Fire just got bought again and went away.' 'Oh, I’m surprised because something horrible has happened to a franchise that I’ve been following since I was a little kid.'"

Naturally Newell didn't drop any hints as to the next quick sequel, however it could easily fall into the company's planned "big three surprises" slated to be announced over the next twelve months. Speculated "big three" titles include Half-Life 3, Half-Life 2: Episode 3, and Portal 3.

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partytime 09/09/2010 10:43 PM
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kikireeki 09/09/2010 10:45 PM
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processthis 09/09/2010 10:47 PM
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I call sequel to Alien Swarm!

cbrownx88 09/09/2010 10:49 PM
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Gimme HL3 pleease

gogogadgetliver 09/09/2010 10:50 PM
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No the gripe was that L4D players immediately got their gaming communities fractured with L4D2 released and were "forced" to pay another $50 if they wanted to keep playing with the same crowds. Some of us gave them the middle finger then switched over to "Killing Floor" which turned out to be an awesome choice. There have been several FREE expansions from Tripwire who apparently knows how to treat customers.

Valve are kinda turning into d1cks.

porksmuggler 09/09/2010 10:52 PM
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"The opinion seemingly changed over time"

Not for everyone...compared to some other AAA titles, it's still a vignette release. Not complaining though, as long as they don't charge $49.99 for a full title.

/Bought both L4D and L4D2
/Only paid $35 for both (not each)

jdog2pt0 09/09/2010 10:57 PM
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^^^Quit whining

HL2:EP3 Please

jdog2pt0 09/09/2010 10:58 PM
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The quit whining was addressed to gogogadgetliver

hellwig 09/09/2010 10:58 PM
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How can Valve expect us to buy that a Quick Sequel is worth the extra money of a full release, when it's been how long since they released Half-Life 2, Episode 2? Sure, they threw-out the Lost Coast teaser, 30 seconds of game play, whooptie doo!. I suppose there's a lot less story line that goes into L4D2, but that's what made it even harder to pay full-price for. New weapons, monsters, and scenery on the same engine does not a full-release make.

I would have paid $15-$20 when L4D2 first came out if it had been an add-on to L4D. Instead I waited until it was $10 during their 4th of July sale. If they release L4D3 this year (or Q1 2011), I'll just wait again.

jimmysmitty 09/09/2010 11:02 PM
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gogogadgetliver :
No the gripe was that L4D players immediately got their gaming communities fractured with L4D2 released and were "forced" to pay another $50 if they wanted to keep playing with the same crowds. Some of us gave them the middle finger then switched over to "Killing Floor" which turned out to be an awesome choice. There have been several FREE expansions from Tripwire who apparently knows how to treat customers.Valve are kinda turning into d1cks.



KF was ok.

But I don't think they are better than VALVe. TF2 alone has had an entire games worth of content added for free. Alien Swarm is pretty fun and its free. L4D is going to get another DLC as will L4D2. Of course with L4D/L4D2 the biggest addition is the community. Maps are starting to flow pretty well and like TF2 will probably be the main source of content.

As for the quick sequal..... I guess I would hope for something towards Alien Swarm since it was just released. I don't think it will be L4D3 since there has been no hints or news about it. Possibly Portal 3.

Damn VALVe. Cryptic.......

utgardaloki 09/09/2010 11:03 PM
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In which way does releasing HL3 or HL2 EP3 fall under the label "quick sequel"? Rather a "about f-ing time" release.

Morgan3rd 09/09/2010 11:05 PM
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Hmm I think 1 new IP (their dota thing), An expansion of their Dota thing, and... HL3/episode3 as a single game (probably not a new engine)

borisof007 09/09/2010 11:07 PM
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Portal 3 would be WAYYY too soon. I could see HL2: ep3 and maybe a new kind of "opposing force" from the combine's perspective. That would be neat.

porksmuggler 09/09/2010 11:11 PM
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Ask yourself, whens the last time Valve had a full release? You know one with single and multiplayer, that takes more than a few hours to play through before you're hopping on an online match.

/Half-Life 2
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Stifle 09/09/2010 11:14 PM
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Things that happen quickly can be quite enjoyable experiences. . .

I am speaking of course about small content updates to older products. I also feel that LFD1 was a great game that could have used some sprucing up with new content instead of having 2 games that people must choose between. Why do you think games with expansions like Starcraft, Diablo 2, Battlefield 1942, World of Warcraft and Everquest do so well for so long, its all about community.

porksmuggler 09/09/2010 11:26 PM
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These aren't "surprises" It's Gabe's genius business model. Build a leading digital distribution system (Steam) while milking a handful of IPs with episodic/vignette releases.

It's easy to say "it's all about the community", that's buzzword bingo. Remember the phrase "Valve Time", they trickle content...

the_krasno 09/09/2010 11:29 PM
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Don't forget other Valve titles like Counter Strike and Day of Defeat! Not to mention the Half Life expansions made by Gearbox. I want to see more of Adrian Shepard!

XZaapryca 09/09/2010 11:30 PM
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For most PC gamers it seems that a "new game" comes with a new engine that takes advantage of the latest advances. A sequel is usually a "new game" and not an expansion that uses the long existing engine.

However, if there is significant content and weight to a "sequel" using the same engine as the original, wouldn't it be worth the price anyway? I know there are a couple of titles that I didn't want to end.

eklipz330 09/09/2010 11:34 PM
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well the only game they released in the past year that doesn't include l4d2 is alien swarm, and i wasn't a fan. too boring IMO


and if it's l4d3, count me out. i got my fill of First person zombie killing action for a few years at least

porksmuggler 09/09/2010 11:35 PM
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XZaapryca :
However, if there is significant content and weight to a "sequel" using the same engine as the original, wouldn't it be worth the price anyway? I know there are a couple of titles that I didn't want to end.



Yeah, that's why I still buy all my music on cassette tape, it's all about the content.

/this is sarcasm

fracture 09/09/2010 11:36 PM
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The only surprise I see is if they brought out a new IP. Source Engine 3/Half Life 3, Half Life 2: Episode 3, or Left 4 Dead 3 are all expected titles.

Kelavarus 09/09/2010 11:42 PM
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I think Valve totally missed the point on the complaints about Left 4 Dead 2. They had pretty specifically said during development of Left 4 Dead 1 that they wanted to support it like they support Team Fortress 2, then Left4Dead released with a small amount of content, got a tiny bit more, then they announced Left 4 Dead 2, and the community was pretty irritated about that.

Stryter 09/09/2010 11:53 PM
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Yea, if we are talking about quick sequals, then Half-Life obviously won't make that list of possibilities. It's been how long since Ep2?

gm0n3y 09/09/2010 11:54 PM
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TF3?

gogogadgetliver 09/09/2010 11:54 PM
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jimmysmitty :
KF was ok.But I don't think they are better than VALVe. TF2 alone has had an entire games worth of content added for free. Alien Swarm is pretty fun and its free. L4D is going to get another DLC as will L4D2. Of course with L4D/L4D2 the biggest addition is the community. Maps are starting to flow pretty well and like TF2 will probably be the main source of content.As for the quick sequal..... I guess I would hope for something towards Alien Swarm since it was just released. I don't think it will be L4D3 since there has been no hints or news about it. Possibly Portal 3. Damn VALVe. Cryptic.......



Yes, good point. TF2 has been a good example. L4D = d1cksandwich. Heck I felt ripped off even before L4D2. It was not worth full AAA price.

gogogadgetliver 09/09/2010 11:55 PM
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thegreathuntingdolphin 09/10/2010 12:11 PM
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I don't think it will be L4D3 or Portal 3. For one, L4D3 would be an unpleasant surprise (and many would argue not a surprise if they continue with COD regularity). I bought both 1 and 2 and I do think 2 was worth (well, worth the $23 I got it for) it but it still made me pissed because they could have easily done the same with 1.

Portal 3 would indeed be a surprise but a dumb one. Portal 2 isn't out yet and announcing a third sequel before the second sequel comes out would be retarded. I still think Portal's uniqueness got old really really quickly.

Also, HL2:EP3 can't be it since it wouldn't be a short sequel since it has been worked on and off for years.

I think Valve is starting to trip balls. They will lose the loyalty they have built up over the years if they keeps bringing out quick crap.

back_by_demand 09/10/2010 12:35 PM
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gogogadgetliver :
No the gripe was that L4D players immediately got their gaming communities fractured with L4D2 released and were "forced" to pay another $50 if they wanted to keep playing with the same crowds. Some of us gave them the middle finger then switched over to "Killing Floor" which turned out to be an awesome choice. There have been several FREE expansions from Tripwire who apparently knows how to treat customers.Valve are kinda turning into d1cks.


Killing Floor is an OK game, but nowhere close to L4D2
Sounds like you cut your nose off to spite your own face
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No one "forces" you to buy a game

zerapio 09/10/2010 12:43 PM
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kikireeki :
Quick Sequel = lazy programmers.


How is doing something good and fast an indication of laziness if beyond me. My guess is that you don't know anything about software development.

back_by_demand 09/10/2010 12:52 PM
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zerapio :
How is doing something good and fast an indication of laziness if beyond me. My guess is that you don't know anything about software development.


Also hasn't played it either, or he would know

RADIO_ACTIVE 09/10/2010 12:55 PM
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I wish they would make another Counter Stike or Day of Defeat


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