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Hitachi-LG's Blu-ray/SSD Hybrid Now Smaller

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

HLDS revised its hybrid Blu-ray/SSD drive to fit into one laptop drive bay.

Monday during CEATEC 2010, Hitachi-LG Data Storage (HLDS) said that it revised the Hybrid Drive to offer higher performance and a smaller form factor for thin laptop designs. Now in its second generation, the Hybrid Drive combines a Blu-ray optical drive with flash memory--serving as a solid state disk--on one circuit board. The new Hybrid model also uses only one SATA 6 Gbps connector, and is now the size of a standard laptop drive.

The first version, seen at Computex 2010 earlier this year and officially announced back in June, wasn't quite as compact, combining the optical drive with an SSD in one shell. But unlike the new version, the first-generation model used two SATA 3 Gbps connectors and offered capacities of only 32 GB and 64 GB.

However now consumers can alter their rigs by replacing the current ODD with the new 2nd-generation Hybrid Drive. Consumers keeping their clunky hard drives can use the Hybrid's NAND solely as cache, or install programs and use the remainder NAND as cache. Then again, users can toss out the hard drive altogether and use the SSD portion as the main drive. Nevertheless, HLDS' Hybrid Drive allows manufacturers to create ODD systems with only one physical drive.

"We are very excited about the potential of this ground-breaking product," said HLDS Chief Marketing Officer YK Park. "Once Hybrid Drive is loaded in all PC products including AIO, Mini PC, and Notebook, a new solution will be provided for user classes who were previously unsure of purchasing SSD. And Hybrid Drive also enables a smaller PC foot print (under 12" tablet PCs such as the Ultra Mobile PC, for example) by removing the HDD or SSD from the motherboard and just having Hybrid Drive with SSD as its primary storage."

Micron followed up on Tuesday by announcing that its 25-nm NAND memory was used in the new Hybrid Drive. The company said that the first wave of drives will include 16 GB, 32 GB, and 64 GB capacities. Higher NAND capacities of the Hybrid Drive will be available in future versions.

The Hybrid Drive is expected to become available in May 2011, however HLDS did not specify pricing. AVERATEC's All-in-one PC, SHUTTLE's Slim PC, and MONEUAL's HTPC will be showcased at HLDS' booth during CEATEC 2010, all sporting the new Hybrid Drive.

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drwho1 10/07/2010 2:21 AM
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joex444 10/07/2010 2:25 AM
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"But unlike the new version, the first-generation model used two SATA 3 Gbps connectors and offered capacities of only 32 GB and 64 GB."

"The company said that the first wave of drives will include 16 GB, 32 GB, and 64 GB capacities."

Finally I can get it in 16GB!

makingoneup 10/07/2010 2:30 AM
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I didn't realize they could fit hybrid Blu-ray/SSDs in asian chicks.

Darkerson 10/07/2010 2:43 AM
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That has to be the weirdest combination Ive heard of yet. But I almost wasnt able to read the article due to the hot chick holding the device :P

Darkv1 10/07/2010 2:46 AM
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This is a strange but very space efficient solution. I can see Apple offering these as an option in the MBP or even the MB Air.

liveonc 10/07/2010 2:50 AM
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Why couldn't they make a hybrid HDD/SSD with one SATA 3 connector instead?

thillntn 10/07/2010 2:52 AM
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just think, if m$ would just realize bluray as a format...a xbox360 could have bluray and 64 gig of storage in one.I would buy that upgrade :).

littlec 10/07/2010 2:54 AM
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liveonc :
Why couldn't they make a hybrid HDD/SSD with one SATA 3 connector instead?



Cost im assuming, such a device was probably deemed unmarketable at this point.

kelemvor4 10/07/2010 3:18 AM
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I definitely wouldn't call it ground breaking. Convenient, maybe.

fjjb 10/07/2010 3:20 AM
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burning a blu ray disk will burn all your data! lol

jamessneed 10/07/2010 3:36 AM
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Could be a hit in smaller laptops. SSD for OS and a Blu-ray player taking up the same space as a DVD/Blu-ray plus you stil have space for a hard disk. I can see this selling well for cheap business class laptops.

eddieroolz 10/07/2010 3:49 AM
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You know, this is a good idea now that I think of it. If the SSD is, say, 64GB then one can install Windows 7 there, without having to have two drives.

dalauder 10/07/2010 4:04 AM
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I've known lots of laptop hard drives to break. Magnetic Storage just really isn't meant to be moved around constantly.

This can be great for laptops since I don't have any problem with an 80GB HDD on mine (not primary computer)--I could get by with 32GB. It will increase reliability (& speed) and decrease weight (disk platters are heavy).

I just wish they were looking to do this with DVD drives since Blu-Ray is mostly pointless (until they can drop media to 50 cents a disc). I dunno about you but my laptop's not for watching HD movies--that's for my TV or desktop with larger monitors.

Travis Beane 10/07/2010 4:09 AM
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That's nice for saving space. Maybe we can finally get a 9" netbook with a disc drive? Please?

tu_illegalamigo 10/07/2010 4:24 AM
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This would be good for an htpc appliance. I stream from a server so this combo is convenient for me. reduction in footprint and power is always good. Price points anyone?

littlec 10/07/2010 4:58 AM
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dalauder :
I've known lots of laptop hard drives to break. Magnetic Storage just really isn't meant to be moved around constantly.This can be great for laptops since I don't have any problem with an 80GB HDD on mine (not primary computer)--I could get by with 32GB. It will increase reliability (& speed) and decrease weight (disk platters are heavy).I just wish they were looking to do this with DVD drives since Blu-Ray is mostly pointless (until they can drop media to 50 cents a disc). I dunno about you but my laptop's not for watching HD movies--that's for my TV or desktop with larger monitors.



Except this is mostly for use as a boot drive o_0

nukemaster 10/07/2010 5:00 AM
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Tu_illegalamigo :
This would be good for an htpc appliance. I stream from a server so this combo is convenient for me. reduction in footprint and power is always good. Price points anyone?


Would be very good for that

Milleman 10/07/2010 6:49 AM
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I like the look of that girl. Is she added extras when purchase?

wribbs 10/07/2010 7:26 AM
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I was mildly interested in owning a bluray player back when they bested hd-dvd but I no longer have any use for optical media tbh. I would imagine these two expensive technologies will combine to be very cost prohibitive. Maybe Apple can get its deep pocketed drones to buy an Ipad with it.

dalauder 10/07/2010 8:05 AM
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littlec :
Except this is mostly for use as a boot drive o_0



I'm missing what you're contradicting. How does using the drive as my primary HDD and booting Windows from it conflict with using this as a boot drive?

Do you mean that it will, in some way, be unsuitable for use as a hard drive to run programs off of it? Like bad for lots of read/write operations like a flash stick?

littlec 10/07/2010 8:50 AM
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dalauder :
I'm missing what you're contradicting. How does using the drive as my primary HDD and booting Windows from it conflict with using this as a boot drive?Do you mean that it will, in some way, be unsuitable for use as a hard drive to run programs off of it? Like bad for lots of read/write operations like a flash stick?



Boot drive means what it sounds like, everything needed to boot and run constantly. after that you'll still need storage (or most people will), your comment made me think you were going to use this as your only drive, which may work for you but most people will not find that as a viable solution.

dEAne 10/07/2010 9:02 AM
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Not now I am sure there are lots to follow.

bk420 10/07/2010 10:26 AM
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GeeEEeez that's cool, they need to make one for the desktop too! My computer could use a 128 GB SSD performance boost!!!

cmcghee358 10/07/2010 12:59 PM
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Imo a notebook is supposed to be small, and used in a minor way compared to a Desktop.

I installed a 40GB SSD into my wifes Dell Studio 1710, and she hasn't used much of it. If she decides she wants to download movies, I'll buy her a small form factor external USB 2.0 Hard Drive.

Imo 40-60GB SSDs should be standard on notebooks, with the option to add a 2nd HDD for media, or simply use an external for media.

Obviously there are some professionals that store large amounts of data on their netbooks, or simply have a "mobile office" in which case they could just order it with a 500 GB 2.5" internal drive.

My 2c

g00fysmiley 10/07/2010 2:38 PM
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hmm... would i select in the biuos to boot from the ROM drive or the HHD if i put windows on it...

intresting idea i guess if you need the space, could as mentioned be useful in laptops and such. also might be a good option in small media pcs use your 2-3 slots for large hdd and boot from this with the os for better responsivness.

as for regular pc users it will probably not be worth it from a value standpoint to get the combo vs the two sepratly as long as there is room in the case

lamorpa 10/07/2010 2:58 PM
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g00fysmiley :
biuos


bios? BIOS??

nukemaster 10/07/2010 4:50 PM
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g00fysmiley wrote :

hmm... would i select in the biuos to boot from the ROM drive or the HHD if i put windows on it...



It is most likely connected to a port multiplier(inside the drive) so you will see both in the bios anyway. similar to how many external multi drive setups work.

ozzman24 10/08/2010 12:56 PM
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wribbs :
I was mildly interested in owning a bluray player back when they bested hd-dvd but I no longer have any use for optical media tbh. I would imagine these two expensive technologies will combine to be very cost prohibitive. Maybe Apple can get its deep pocketed drones to buy an Ipad with it.


The extras are under the shirt.

dalauder 10/08/2010 1:45 AM
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littlec :
Boot drive means what it sounds like, everything needed to boot and run constantly. after that you'll still need storage (or most people will), your comment made me think you were going to use this as your only drive, which may work for you but most people will not find that as a viable solution.



I disagree. Most people, and by that I mean people who don't read Tom's Hardware, only use more than 60GB of if they download video. I'm talking about a laptop for typical computer usage--not heavy gaming or use as a media center. The people who want a media center probably already own a capable external hard drive. And anyone who knows about computers (and needs more storage than 80GB or so) knows that laptop hard drives break more often than most and would back up their data so that a larger HDD isn't that necessary.

Most people won't know the difference between 80GB & 500GB if you don't tell them one is better, but instead just mention one weighs less, faster, and more reliable. Personally, I'd take 32GB for my laptop. And according to the article, much larger sizes that will accomodate 90% of laptop users will be available in a year.

What do you use your laptop for? Because I put my terabytes of storage on my i7 desktop.

vic20 10/08/2010 3:38 AM
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dalauder :
I disagree. Most people, and by that I mean people who don't read Tom's Hardware, only use more than 60GB of if they download video. I'm talking about a laptop for typical computer usage--not heavy gaming or use as a media center.



I service machines every work day and 60GB isn't cutting it anymore for the average laptop user. 80-100GB of drive useage is very common as many users have no idea how to uninstall things, what to remove or even how to burn a DVD. External drives aren't great for everyone either as even cut/copy and paste to a different drive letter is alien to novices and included backup software can be vague and confusing to people.

I've done lots of data transfers to new machines for people and seen My Pictures folders exceeding 30gigs plus massive music collections. Sure there's lots of video at times, but its not just movie downloading. People love to take video clips on digital cameras and keep them on their laptop.

dalauder 10/08/2010 8:21 AM
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I suppose I know people with a Terabyte of music, so larger drives are useful for novice users. In that case, this drive would be awesome for MY next laptop.

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