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Valve Appeals Left 4 Dead 2 Ban in Australia

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10:51 PM - September 25, 2009 by Kevin Parrish

Valve Software has appealed Australia's decision to ban Left 4 Dead 2 in that territory.

Yesterday Valve Software sent along a small announcement that it has formally appealed the OFLC's Australian ruling that has virtually banned the sale and distribution of Left 4 Dead 2 in that territory. Currently the game has scored ratings in all other foreign countries including Europe, Japan, Germany (gasp!), and even Korea. However, New Zealand and the United Kingdom are still marked as "in progress."

Last week the Australian Classifications Board refused to classify Valve's upcoming zombie shooter sequel, banning the game based on its "realistic, frenetic, and unrelenting violence," a feature many FPS games of late actually share. The game's high-impact violence was thus deemed unsuitable for gamers less than 18 years of age, and since there are no Adult Only ratings in Australia, the game thus remains in limbo.

"We were surprised to hear of this news yesterday," Valve's Doug Lombardi said last week. "Obviously, everyone at Valve is pretty bummed. It would be a shame if folks in Australia, or anywhere else, are unable to purchase Left 4 Dead 2 because of a ratings issue."

But there might be hope for L4D2. Apparently, there are some members on the OFLC who believes that the game could still classify under the MA 15+ rating, but with an added caption that advises consumers against strong violence as seen with the first Left 4 Dead installment. Valve said it would keep us informed on the issue.

Source : Tom's Hardware US

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Anonymous 09/26/2009 5:08 AM
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All they need to do is introduce an R18+ rating for games in Australia. Ppl will play the games anyway its just going to make it safer and more controlled.

rebel conquest 09/26/2009 5:29 AM
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That's a very backward law :S

the associate 09/26/2009 5:38 AM
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it's a game about shooting zombies isn't it? how in hell is that a bad thing? I wouldn't mind having a populace mentally trained and prepped for popping a zombie horde, would you?

charlesxuma 09/26/2009 5:47 AM
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rebel conquest :
That's a very backward law :S



seriously ..... i mean how stupid can it get..... this is by far the dumbest thing iv heard ..... (until the next dumbest country makes some new crap up) we'v got australia in #1 dumbest .... second we have germany in #2 ....... any one else for 3rd (new zealand or UK maybe) ?

.......to be continued

B-Unit 09/26/2009 5:47 AM
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Yes, because we all know how effective a training tool an FPS is for actual use of a firearm.

That and all these damn zombies running around...

r0x0r 09/26/2009 5:48 AM
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And the government can also get the taxes on it.

Seriously, if I want to play L4D2 here what is stopping me from buying it digitally from overseas and playing on an overseas server? If the overseas retailer won't sell it to me then I'll just fire up utorrent and then everyone loses.

Just another example of how backward South Australia* is.

*The only reason we do not have R18+ games in Australia is because of the South Australian attorney-general Michael Atkinson is opposed to it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Atkinson

pirateboy 09/26/2009 5:48 AM
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just replace the zombies with politicians and we will have heaven on earth

the associate 09/26/2009 5:52 AM
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Kelavarus 09/26/2009 6:01 AM
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eklipz330 09/26/2009 6:09 AM
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Last week the Australian Classifications Board refused to classify Valve's upcoming zombie shooter sequel, banning the game based on its "realistic, frenetic, and unrelenting violence," a feature many FPS games of late actually share.


yes, because shooting zombies is real, against the law, and racist. they have feelings too.

no but seriously, its a rehash of the first game which came out not even a year ago, why do they make asses of themselves

trashit 09/26/2009 6:42 AM
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Michael Atkinson > Common sense

Unfortunetlty Aus has laws that allow one person to ruin fun for every one. Solution: replace ingame zombie skins with Michael Atkinson. Then the whole world can have fun mowing down zombie Michael Atkinsons (which is actually closer to the real thing lol).

...patiently awaits L4D2....

virtualban 09/26/2009 6:49 AM
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In or out of topic:
All those adds of 'resident evil 5' lying around were really really really annoying me. They're built in such a way my 'hardware visual processor' and my 'software mental processor' can't automatically ignore, so I installed addblock just to feel free to read the articles. After that, peace at least. So much peace I actually forgot the name of the game and had to disable the filter to check it again for this comment.
NO! I won't be playing your game if you keep bombarding me like that!

r0x0r 09/26/2009 6:59 AM
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trashit :
Michael Atkinson > Common senseUnfortunetlty Aus has laws that allow one person to ruin fun for every one. Solution: replace ingame zombie skins with Michael Atkinson. Then the whole world can have fun mowing down zombie Michael Atkinsons (which is actually closer to the real thing lol)....patiently awaits L4D2....



Brilliant idea!

Michael Atkinson is Australia's Jack Thompson (probably).

sciencectn 09/26/2009 7:28 AM
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Why ban violent games? Because humans TOTALLY weren't violent before video games!

randomizer 09/26/2009 8:10 AM
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the associate :
it's a game about shooting zombies isn't it? how in hell is that a bad thing? I wouldn't mind having a populace mentally trained and prepped for popping a zombie horde, would you?


It's not about zombies, it's about (quoting the report) "living humans infected with a rabies-like virus that causes them to act violently." Now of course, no other games with gore have living humans. :sarcastic:

manitoublack 09/26/2009 11:13 AM
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All that means is that the only way to get it here in OZ is to get it illegally. Top move OFLC ;)

No body wins

Regulas 09/26/2009 12:05 PM
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Australia says, "All your game belongs to us". I didn't buy the first one, no Steam control for me.

anamaniac 09/26/2009 12:30 PM
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B-Unit :
Yes, because we all know how effective a training tool an FPS is for actual use of a firearm. That and all these damn zombies running around...



I headshot boom in games. =D
With an actual rifle, I can't hit the side of a fucking barn... so yeah...
sciencectn :
Why ban violent games? Because humans TOTALLY weren't violent before video games!


ha
No, not at all...
Hey, who's up for some games in the colliseum? I'll bring the popcorn. Hope I catch some guys arm.

blackened144 09/26/2009 3:30 PM
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Does Australia have a large zombie population that they are worried about offending?

trashit 09/26/2009 7:18 PM
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blackened144 :
Does Australia have a large zombie population that they are worried about offending?



Why yes, we do have a large zombie population. We keep them in our capital building and just gave them a pay rise so they would leave our brains alone. Sadly though all we get in return is our games banned. This is to go with our nice filtered, capped and overpriced internets.

ryanb213 09/26/2009 7:20 PM
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and yet a game like grand theft auto 4 isnt banned?

nisallik 09/27/2009 12:08 PM
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ryanb213 :
and yet a game like grand theft auto 4 isnt banned?



In GTA4, you could kill people of all colors which was not discriminatory. In L4D2, you kill solely zombies... That is the problem. ;)

socrates047 09/27/2009 6:51 AM
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hey guys stop fighting each other, us gamers need to unite in times like these, and fight (peaceful rallying or similar acts) for well crafted video games.

Dirtman73 09/27/2009 8:16 PM
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WTF is wrong with Australia? I used to think it'd be cool to live there, but they've got such a huge boner for censorship nowadays I think it's draining the blood form their collective brains. Fascism sucks.

rambo117 09/27/2009 8:53 PM
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charlesxuma :
seriously ..... i mean how stupid can it get..... this is by far the dumbest thing iv heard ..... (until the next dumbest country makes some new crap up) we'v got australia in #1 dumbest .... second we have germany in #2 ....... any one else for 3rd (new zealand or UK maybe) ? .......to be continued


umm, i was actually more along the lines of China as #1

remember the stupid deal with WoW?

FSC 09/28/2009 7:57 AM
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They'll do anything just to get ripped the money from Australia too.

connacht 09/28/2009 10:05 AM
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Banning video games is a socialist act. It's why Chavez does it, and it's why Australia does it. It is blatant, in-our-face, socialism. The idea that the "Government knows better for you then you do for yourself" is socialism.

“Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.”
-Ronald Reagan

connacht 09/28/2009 10:05 AM
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Banning video games is a socialist act. It's why Chavez does it, and it's why Australia does it. It is blatant, in-our-face, socialism. The idea that the "Government knows better for you then you do for yourself" is socialism.

“Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.”
-Ronald Reagan

connacht 09/28/2009 10:08 AM
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rambo117 :
umm, i was actually more along the lines of China as #1 remember the stupid deal with WoW?



This is tyranny under the "goodwills" of socialism. Just read this quote from C.S. Lewis. It's explains it much more eloquently then I can.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
-- C.S. Lewis

connacht 09/28/2009 10:10 AM
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Dirtman73 :
WTF is wrong with Australia? I used to think it'd be cool to live there, but they've got such a huge boner for censorship nowadays I think it's draining the blood form their collective brains. Fascism sucks.



I apologize for the above post. I meant to repy to Dirtman73.

This is tyranny under the "goodwills" of socialism. Just read this quote from C.S. Lewis. It's explains it much more eloquently then I can.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
-- C.S. Lewis

neiroatopelcc 09/28/2009 10:52 AM
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This piece makes me want to cite a line of text from Clawfinger's song Reality "if you want to ban a violent show then ban the news"
Sure the game may be violent, but it's no more violent than the real world. And being born isn't rated M.


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