Antec Debuts Its First Liquid Cooling System
Antec's KÜHLER H2O 620 LCS will be available by the end of the month.
Thursday Antec Inc announced its very first liquid cooling system for CPUs, the Antec KÜHLER H2O 620. The product is the result of a partnership with Asetek and promises easy installation, zero maintenance and up to 20-percent greater performance under full load than stock CPU coolers. It's also the result of feedback based on a survey offered to customers last year.
"The KÜHLER H2O 620 features Asetek's low-profile pump for exceptional liquid circulation while preserving internal airflow, and easy-bend tubes for maximum flexibility in radiator positioning," the company describes in a press release. "Additionally, the KÜHLER H2O 620 utilizes liquid temperature controlled fans to deliver Antec's renowned Quiet Computing technology for quiet, efficient performance and uses the latest generation copper cold plate for optimal conduction."
According to Antec's Dennis Pang in a blog dated Thursday, the company tested the new cooler on Intel's Core i7 980x CPU and saw a 20-percent performance increase over the stock Intel cooler. Pang also said the cooler includes kits to mount Intel LGA 775, 1155, 1156 and 1366 as well as AMD AM2, AM3, AM2+ and AM3+.
"The performance advantage doesn’t just apply to the CPU," he said. "Routing all the CPU heat directly out of your chassis means lower overall ambient temperature, which helps out your other components. And the low profile of the pump (just 27 mm) drastically reduces the footprint of your CPU cooler, which greatly increases overall airflow in your chassis."
Pang said the cooler is easy to install. Users simply attach a bracket to the motherboard, mount the pump to the CPU, and attach the radiator and fan to the chassis. For those who've previously mounted an aftermarket air cooler, the only difference is mounting the radiator/fan assembly to an open fan slot.
"Forget about having to purchase coolant and filling/refilling," he said. "Ironically, the beauty of this liquid cooling solution is never having to see the fluid."
The KÜHLER H2O 620 is backed by Antec's Quality 3-year (AQ3) limited warranty on parts and labor and is available at the end of January for an estimated price of $69.95 through major retailers, e-tailers and distributors.
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Looks like the Corsair H70, which looks like the Asetek 570LC. I put my bets that it won't cool any better than the Hyper 212+ with dual-fans.
20% better than stock Intel cooler....that has to be the worst asetek cooler I have seen yet then....
I own the H70 and I replaced the hyper 212+ with it. I haven't seen any difference in cooling and in most cases my 212+ has cooled better...
Looks like the Corsair H70, which looks like the Asetek 570LC. I put my bets that it won't cool any better than the Hyper 212+ with dual-fans.
Yeah, I was debating the Corsair H50 and the Hyper 212+ (had an extra 120mm fan too). I love the 212+, and it's not even loud.
my V10 cooler master is quite nice so id has to be quite good for me to switch
Why did I expect it to be a REAL water-cooling setup when I read the title...
Well lets look at the marketing here. They clearly aren't even aiming for enthuasists. But i give them props because they aren't lying to themselves about it either. They flat out say its only a 20% increase over stock, and instead of talking about overclocking or faster speeds, they talk about easy installation and how it can fit in tight spaces. So is it super effective? No, but it wasn't aimed for us anyways. At 70$ I assume they are aiming at entry level DIYers or OEM owners who want to improve there cooling headroom. It looks like a solid product to me but no, I wouldn't buy it myself. I need more than 20% LOL.
Don't go for these fake liquid cooling systems,
Other than saving physical space, they generally offer no benefit compared to a decent aftermarket air cooler, in many cases, they perform worst.
I tried the corsair one, and it did about the same or worst than my much cheaper sunbeam core contact cooler, only problem with the corsair is that it has a built in pump that can fail and require the entire unit to be replaced, if the fan on my sunbeam cooler fails, $3-4 is all it takes to replace it. I also have plenty space in the case so it doesn't matter if there is a massive cooler in it.
If you want the benefits of liquid cooling, you need to go for a higher end system where you can use multiple radiators.
These liquid CPU coolers are very underwhelming. They don't appear to provide any advantage on noise, cooling, or price compared to midrange/highend heatpipe coolers. I'm guessing the limitation is the amount of liquid in the system. Perhaps a reservoir that sits in a 5.25" bay or two would finally give these systems the cooling advantage, noise advantage, or both?
The biggest problem with real liquid cooling systems..240 and 360 radiators..is that to maintain a great OC you have to crank the fans up and they are loud. They perform fantastic, but not quiet. These all-in-ones perform midpack compared to big air and are mid pack on noise as well. They really don't have an appeal. A Noctua NH-D14 is super quiet when cranked all the way up and cools better by far than any all-in-one water cooler.
Don't go for these fake liquid cooling systems,Other than saving physical space, they generally offer no benefit compared to a decent aftermarket air cooler, in many cases, they perform worst.I tried the corsair one, and it did about the same or worst than my much cheaper sunbeam core contact cooler, only problem with the corsair is that it has a built in pump that can fail and require the entire unit to be replaced, if the fan on my sunbeam cooler fails, $3-4 is all it takes to replace it. I also have plenty space in the case so it doesn't matter if there is a massive cooler in it.If you want the benefits of liquid cooling, you need to go for a higher end system where you can use multiple radiators.
Fake liquid cooling system? You are aware that it maintains all the components of a "real" liquid cooling system right??
Pump, radiator and liquid transfer tubing....same components that a "real" water cooling system has...
I love how people say this is a fake water cooling system..lol I've had a "real" water cooling system and it I got rid of it. Sounded like a jet engine with all the fans going. Probably give this one a go.
cant you get 20% better coolin gwith just air cooling?
Meh no mess no risk of spillage
BUT HEY WHEN DO I SPILL? if we are= smart enough for a custom liquid cooling
go for it!
if you do everything good you will not mess up
mes hyper 212+ is good running only one fan but will soon upgrade to dual
Seems like a copy of the H70.......
And for the rest of everyone who's really not getting the concept of this CL Liquid Cooling setup, for people like me, who like in a very high dust environment, maintaining the temps around 60C comes at a price of 4 to 8 fans in the rig since the ambient temps around here itself are pretty high... Having 4 fans even the best of them makes a din that makes a car engine seem silent.... having eight of them is like a Cessna pre flight.
Not to forget the suction power and the dust inside after a week of running would make you feel like the rig put on 5 kgs in 7 days....
So a liquid cooling closed loop with one fan on the radiator and one fan for the air intake on the case seems to be the beast option.... even though it may not cool like the heavenly tower like air coolers....with multiple fans....
^^ Oops! Sorry for the typos, I meant "who live in a very high dust environment"
Seems like a copy of the H70....... And for the rest of everyone who's really not getting the concept of this CL Liquid Cooling setup, for people like me, who like in a very high dust environment, maintaining the temps around 60C comes at a price of 4 to 8 fans in the rig since the ambient temps around here itself are pretty high... Having 4 fans even the best of them makes a din that makes a car engine seem silent.... having eight of them is like a Cessna pre flight.Not to forget the suction power and the dust inside after a week of running would make you feel like the rig put on 5 kgs in 7 days....So a liquid cooling closed loop with one fan on the radiator and one fan for the air intake on the case seems to be the beast option....
Or a positive air pressure type case..great cooling and less dust.
Don't go for these fake liquid cooling systems,Other than saving physical space, they generally offer no benefit compared to a decent aftermarket air cooler, in many cases, they perform worst.I tried the corsair one, and it did about the same or worst than my much cheaper sunbeam core contact cooler, only problem with the corsair is that it has a built in pump that can fail and require the entire unit to be replaced, if the fan on my sunbeam cooler fails, $3-4 is all it takes to replace it. I also have plenty space in the case so it doesn't matter if there is a massive cooler in it.If you want the benefits of liquid cooling, you need to go for a higher end system where you can use multiple radiators.
yeo, I agree with the "fake" water cooling moniker. I bought the Domino ALC for $70. Should have known, it was louder than my TRU and didn't cool better. Also went belly up after 6 months. Total waste of time and money.
Positive air pressure matters most on paper, it's more hype than anything. Try running positive air pressure in one of the CoolerMaster HAF series for about 4 months, in a typical room that suffers from dust, and see how much less dust you actually wind up with.
I using a Corsair H50 cooling a AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3.4GHz 125watt "non-clocked" and I'm running about 29C-38C.
The CON: These liquid type cooling systems take longer to bring down your cpu temp.
cant you get 20% better coolin gwith just air cooling?
"... and up to 20-percent greater performance under full load than stock CPU coolers."
I saw that also. I'll stick with air.
That's great, except for the fact that the IDEAL situation is for the radiators of these units to draw FRESH air directly into them instead of working as an exhaust fan. Drawing-in fresh, unheated air yields maximum cooling. Working as an exhaust, the radiator would use air from within the case (which is likely pre-heated due to passing over HDDs, chipsets, etc.) through it, reducing the cooling effect.
What bugs me is that statements was made as if air coolers can't route CPU-heated air directly out of a case. Mine does, with a little help. It's aimed directly at another fan on the back of the case, which just happens to be identical fan to the one on the cooler on the same header, meaning they spin at the same speed. It's basically a push-pull setup without having them both mounted on the HS.
All that and it costs $70? I'll stick to a standard air cooler, since they're much cheaper and work just as well.
Positive air pressure matters most on paper, it's more hype than anything. Try running positive air pressure in one of the CoolerMaster HAF series for about 4 months, in a typical room that suffers from dust, and see how much less dust you actually wind up with.
The key to a proper positive pressure configuration is controlling the intake of dust through the use of easily accessed and removable dust filters. (Preferably, external filters.) Cleaning and maintaining these filters simply comes with the territory. In a high-dust environment, positive, balanced, and negative pressure setups all end up with dust inside them if the intake ports are not filtered. The advantage a filtered positive pressure design would have is the dust can only enter through the filtered intake fan ports, rather than through every small crack in a case.
Positive pressure is far from hype.
An H70 clone?? Looks like Antec has run out of inovative ideas.
Following in the footsteps of Crosair? I am quite satisifed with my original Coolermaster Hyper 212 cpu heatsink (not the 212+).
Looks like the Corsair H70, which looks like the Asetek 570LC. I put my bets that it won't cool any better than the Hyper 212+ with dual-fans.
I personally have had the 212+ as well as the megahalems and they do keep temps low very well but i would have to say that the Venomous X cooler knocks the competition out for the fact that I have my i7 950 @ 4.34ghz vcore (1.32) and my temps at full load are @ 70 to 78 celcious tops
These coolers all look the same, except of for the different logo slapped on it.
The problem with these coolers is, for half the price you can get an air cooler that does at least as well.
20% ? That's gotta be the worst liquid cooling solution.
It isn't a full liquid cooling system so you won't get the same cooling performance. However look at the benefits.
1. It takes a ton less room than an aftermarket cooler that can pull the same amount of cooling.
2. From experience with the technology you will lower your ambient temperature compared with an aftermarket air cooler.
3. Noise is way down as you completely eliminate the CPU fan and end up with a quieter case fan that is muffled by the radiator.
4. It costs less than a full liquid cooling system.
5. Zero maintenance.
So yeah, its not a replacement for extreme overclocking but its the perfect solution for everything from stock to mild overclocking.
Working as an exhaust, the radiator would use air from within the case (which is likely pre-heated due to passing over HDDs, chipsets, etc.) through it, reducing the cooling effect.
What do you think generates most of the ambient heat in a system? Surely you know it would be an air cooler discharging CPU heat directly into the case?
The whole premise of air cooling is to dump heat into the case and then try to create enough air flow to discharge that heat outside which is highly inefficient. Personally I've never seen an overheating issue with core CPU temperature...but I have seen overheating chipsets due to ambient temperature.
These self contained CPU coolers take the #1 source of heat inside the case and deposit it directly outside. In a way its a self contained cooling method similar to isolating the power supply air path.