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Nvidia CEO: Z6 Moorestown Won't Be Competitive

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

During an interview, Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang took at jab at Intel's Moorestown chip.

Monday Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang said in an interview that he's not buying into the whole "tablets are killing netbooks" buzz. Instead, he envisions a future where both platforms will merge into one device he calls the Leisure Computer. However, until that happens, Nvidia will remain busy supporting both platforms: the Ion 2 that will accelerate netbooks without munching loads of battery reserve, and the Tegra 2 for Android-based tablets and smartphones.

The overall interview covered various topics, from the evolution of the netbook to his take on dual-core netbooks. However, an interview isn't complete without taking a jab at rival chipmaker Intel. When asked on his opinion about the Z6 Moorestown chip, Huang said that it wouldn't be competitive when compared to the Tegra 2. In fact, he said it was impossible.

"You could give an elephant a diet but it’s still an elephant," he said. "And when they think about power they think reducing from 20 watts down to 5 watts down to 4 watts down to 2 watts is really good. But you and I both know that in a mobile phone you need to be in a hundred milliwatts, two hundred milliwatts. So they’re still ten times away. So that’s a big challenge for them."

He goes on to promote the Tegra 2, boasting that it's already superior to Atom from a performance perspective. "And so now we’re already dual-core, and then next year I assume Tegra 3 comes out, and then, you know, here we are increasing performance at a lightning rate and power is incredibly low, so I think it’s going to be tough for them," he said.

To read the entire interview, head here.

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hameem 05/26/2010 9:30 PM
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Is this guy a model?? LOL

bogcotton 05/26/2010 9:33 PM
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How about a tablet sized laptop, but instead of a fold out keyboard, a slide out one?

JeanLuc 05/26/2010 9:34 PM
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Jen-Hsun Huang is a fumbling, blustering fool, if he weren't a major shareholder in Nvidia the board would have gagged this guy years ago as what he has to say just makes him and Nvidia look foolish. Anyone remember when he held up that fake card proclaiming it to be the first Fermi to come of the production line? Yeah that one with the wood screws to hold on the backplate.

Warsaw 05/26/2010 9:35 PM
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Zoonie 05/26/2010 9:38 PM
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Well, for once he is absolutely correct.

rooseveltdon 05/26/2010 9:45 PM
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bogcotton :
How about a tablet sized laptop, but instead of a fold out keyboard, a slide out one?



That's actually not a bad idea

doron 05/26/2010 9:44 PM
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From what I've read I got the impression that Intel did reduce idle power to milliwatts...

Anyway I'm sure Intel isn't stupid enough to dive in the mobile market segment AND make false advertisement about it such as a week long battery without the hardware to back them up (unlike nvidia *cough* Fermi)

eyemaster 05/26/2010 9:44 PM
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Somehow, I'm not really scared for Intel...

anamaniac 05/26/2010 9:47 PM
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bogcotton :
How about a tablet sized laptop, but instead of a fold out keyboard, a slide out one?


Actually, I like that idea. Patent the idea now!
Warsaw :
Toms:Can you please link some of Jen-Hsun Huang's head shots? This photo-shoot isn't complete without them!P.S. I wonder if the "Tegra 3" can run Crysis?(Sorry, had to do it)


Tegra 3 running Crysis? We can hope. :)
Don't mind running 480x320 solution at absolute minimum settings do you?

matt_b 05/26/2010 9:55 PM
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I swear this guy has a shrine built with Steve Jobs as the centerpiece. That or he stole his playbook on how to keep himself and his company's name in the spotlight. Weather good or hot-air publicity, I'm really starting to get tired of his fart-in-the-wind comments.

Anonymous 05/26/2010 9:58 PM
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The "Leisure Computer", eh? How are they going to get the wide lapels to stick to the Tegra3 die? :)

otacon72 05/26/2010 10:13 PM
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"Nvidia CEO: Z6 Moorestown Won't Be Competitive"

Sure he's not talking about Fermi? /sarcasm

figgus 05/26/2010 10:34 PM
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doron :
From what I've read I got the impression that Intel did reduce idle power to milliwatts...


Well, 5000 milliwatts is still measured in milliwatts, right?

nforce4max 05/26/2010 10:45 PM
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OK Nvidia needs to get it's crap sorted out. This is ridiculous, not every one is looking for a crappy dust in the wind trinket or failtop, some of us have real work and other just want something that is actually going to last. These iPads and androids are just toys (fad at that), they got a great concept but they are pure fail all of them when it comes to getting something out that is worth every nickle and dime that is spent on them. How about something like the HP TC1100 that worked and outlasted most craptops and some desktops. Who needs a heater in the arctic when there is Fermi or summer its hot enough already. Hmm 100+/35+ ambient temps.

mobomofo 05/26/2010 10:50 PM
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leisurecomputer :
The "Leisure Computer", eh? How are they going to get the wide lapels to stick to the Tegra3 die?



rofl.
They are going to attach the lapels with a pair of cheesy sideburns...

joytech22 05/26/2010 11:14 PM
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bogcotton :
How about a tablet sized laptop, but instead of a fold out keyboard, a slide out one?



How about after it slides out, the keyboard hinge unlocks, allowing you to use it like a regular laptop?

doron 05/26/2010 11:14 PM
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figgus :
Well, 5000 milliwatts is still measured in milliwatts, right?



Actually the Moorestown articles I've read didn't indicate the actual power the chip will use but the details imply that the chip will require close to zero power since it'll almost be shut down completely during idle thanks to a new technology specified in the article. You should read it actually, it's quite interesting

Pyroflea 05/27/2010 12:17 PM
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Zoonie :
Well, for once he is absolutely correct.



Couldn't agree more. At this point in time, Intel offers no competition whatsoever towards Nvidia.

ta152h 05/27/2010 12:50 PM
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I hate Nvidia, and will never buy their products, but, I agree with his unstated premise - x86 doesn't work except where there's no real competition.

On the desktop, you need it, because there's really nothing else around. POWER is nice, but where are the apps you'd want to run? Maybe ARM will challenge in the future, from the bottom up, but for now, they don't.

But, trying to move the miserably inefficient x86 instruction set to platforms that need efficiency and don't care much about compatibility puts them at a huge disadvantage, and an unnecessary one.

They could be very competitive if they started from scratch, but the penalty of using x86 leaves them non-competitive.

aaron686 05/27/2010 12:57 PM
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After seeing what Intel did/is doing to AMD for the past months, they are capable of doing amazing things and no i'm absolutely not scared for Intel as they are strong enough to compete with Nvidia and possibly...High End GPU's to compete with both AMD and Nvidia, future speaking that is.

Pei-chen 05/27/2010 1:16 AM
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He looks like Tony Stark/Iron Man

Camikazi 05/27/2010 1:45 AM
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bogcotton :
How about a tablet sized laptop, but instead of a fold out keyboard, a slide out one?


So a giant Slider cell phone?

Abrahm 05/27/2010 2:28 AM
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While nVidia's mainstream graphic processors were disappointing this generation, they are doing some good stuff in other areas like the Tegra2. I can't wait to see what Android can do running on a Tegra2

bogcotton 05/27/2010 3:33 AM
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Camikazi :
So a giant Slider cell phone?



Not quite, as it would have a slightly smaller version of the keyboard you have on a notebook, with the trackpad.
Not to mention the full operating system, usb ports etc.

steddy 05/27/2010 3:37 AM
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I like nVidia's products, but I'm beginning to hate its CEO.

nforce4max 05/27/2010 3:51 AM
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Abrahm :
While nVidia's mainstream graphic processors were disappointing this generation, they are doing some good stuff in other areas like the Tegra2. I can't wait to see what Android can do running on a Tegra2




Not every one wants a damn phone, I can't stand cell phones and every one gots one. I WANT A PURE SLATE! For work and play instead of trendy tacky tack crap. It would have to be once in a blue moon night for a business to be caught using these toys for real work.

Kelavarus 05/27/2010 4:52 AM
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nforce4max :
Not every one wants a damn phone, I can't stand cell phones and every one gots one. I WANT A PURE SLATE! For work and play instead of trendy tacky tack crap. It would have to be once in a blue moon night for a business to be caught using these toys for real work.



+1. Thank you for saying it.

jojesa 05/27/2010 5:26 AM
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bogcotton :
How about a tablet sized laptop, but instead of a fold out keyboard, a slide out one?



Toshiba already had built one as far back as 2005 (link below),
then Touch Book showed another in 2009.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/120 [...] splay.html

Now Lenovo has one (IdeaPad U1 Hybrid), which was shown on CES 2010.

j51 05/27/2010 7:12 AM
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Camikazi :
So a giant Slider cell phone?




well.... it depends..

if it is with 10" screen and android OS... then yes.... it does sound like a supersized Droid... It will definitely put Droid under "shadow"...;)

lol

Anonymous 05/27/2010 7:17 AM
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id like to see this vision of his.......

liquidsnake718 05/27/2010 7:17 AM
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Then again your fermi has failed even this late in the game due to "POWER" ranging from 350watts and more on a full load for their fermi cards while the 5970 draws what? 270 watts max load?


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