Gaming Systems Reaching 'Tens of Teraflops' by 2019
Nvidia says gaming systems of 2019 will be able to render today's cut-scenes and cinematics in real-time, and reach a performance of "tens of teraflops."
Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang said on Wednesday that gaming systems will likely reach a performance of "tens of teraflops" by 2019, and be capable of rendering real-time visuals equal to the pre-rendered cutscenes and cinematics we currently see in games today. These systems will eventually have the same level of performance as some of today's supercomputers, he said.
As it stands now, the PlayStation 3 has a peak speed of only a several hundred gigaflops. But by the end of the decade, gaming systems will feature computing speeds matching the Red Storm supercomputer which was initially designed to reach 41.5 teraflops (a trillion floating point operations per second). Despite that kind of horsepower, they won't require megawatts of power to operate, but instead will consume the same amounts of power as today's machines.
"We will be able to deliver that level of capability in 2019 in a game console with a 100 watts," Huang said.
Huang went on to talk about making improvements to the performance of GPUs in supercomputers a top priority. Currently Nvidia has GPUs installed in some of the world's fastest supercomputers which, when paired with CPUs, allow for higher speeds and better performance without the need for extra loads of power. Huang said this should allow for a supercomputer to have a peak speed of an exaflop (quintillion operations per second) by the year 2019 using only 20 megawatts.
IDG News reports that U.S.-based supercomputer Titan will use 18,000 Nvidia GPUs when construction is finally completed, and will feature a peak speed of 20 petaflops. The world's fastest supercomputer, Japan's K computer, only has a peak speed of 8 petaflops and consumes around 10 megawatts of juice.
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Wonder what AMD has to say about this...
nvidia eh.. they will reach that kind of computing power while consuming obscene amount of electric power like their current cards. nvidia should implement better power management in their gpus.
Moore's law and the current trends makes this seem pretty likely.
About that electric bill...I can I take an IOU for this month?
Yea, but nobody will take the time to put that much effort into a game in the first place.
1. They want the game to run on as many platforms as possible (mobile, tablets, laptops, etc...) That right there will be the "bottleneck"
2. They will want to ship their games as fast as possible. Taking extra time to pump out a game that needs 10 Tflops probably won't get enough of a return to make it profitable in the first place.
Wonder what AMD has to say about this...
The usual - whatever Nvidia does, we will make sure we do better - even if it means making a PCIe card that barely fits into your Tower Case and needs 20 or 30 PSU connectors.
i still don't think that we have single cards doing quite the pre-rendered scenes from 5 or 8 years ago. They look really good today, but they had a lot more polygons. I'd say close though! Although 3 580s in SLI just about do it. haha
I've always wondered what the point of these articles are?
News flash everything will be more advanced in the future!..........no way, really
News flash everything will be more advanced in the future!..........no way, really
If what the Mayans have been predicting about 2012 is true... well... it might not be.
Well, rendering cut scenes in current game engines in real time with 10 year later hardware doesn't sound that impressive. By the year 2019, when game engines would also have evolved to better visual levels, games will be developed with those engines and then again it won't be possible to render cut scenes in real time.
Yeah right, wishful thinking, how many years have the PS3 and 360 been around and how many years are left before they replace them. They will have the 720 and PS4 by then and they will be better but not near what Nvidia is claiming.
Well, by then maybe the game engines will also evolve to more realistic visual levels that again it won't be possible to render cut scenes in real time.
+1 reading comprehension fail.
I think we will play the games of graphics like avatar movie in near future before 2019.
tens of teraflops on consoles...wow, imagine how fun quick time and scripted events will be with that much horsepower.
If the next consoles come out in 2013 (sorry, wii doesn't count in this race) then in 2019 they will only be 5 years old, and will not be replaced (sadly) for another 3 years. nVidia may have the parts to get the job done, but that does not mean anyone will be using them.
On a related note, we are already hearing about how the next gen consoles will have 3 year old (4 year old by the time of release) parts in them. This could be the first console release where even mainstream game rigs will be able to beat consoles on quality right out of the box. With the PS2/xBox consoles were a little ahead, then PS3/x360 it was the same quality as a main stream game PC for a few months. I remember being excited to buy a PS3 until I purchased my 9800GT for $180. Then I was really disappointed in the graphics of the consoles and never did end up buying one (besides, I would have to buy a TV to go with it... I think I'll stick with my nice 28" monitor).
But the point is, if you have to have a PC anyways to do work/internet, then why buy a console when you could put the money into a GPU and controller and enjoy better quality games, while getting a better experience for what work you do on it? At least before you could get better/equal performance to a PC, but I doubt that with the next gen.
Yeah right, wishful thinking, how many years have the PS3 and 360 been around and how many years are left before they replace them. They will have the 720 and PS4 by then and they will be better but not near what Nvidia is claiming.
What's the point of a better GPU in a TV Console system when it's mostly pre-teens and frat boys playing them. They wouldn't know the difference, thus why they play most, if not all of their games on a console on the biggest TV they can find.
Doesn't surprise me... however...
I'd really like to see how the cut-scenes will look... now THAT will be amazing.
After this iteration of consoles I believe consoles will be in the cloud. I don't trust anything nvidia says because they've been waffling and the whole Fermi thing ended up being all talk.
If the next consoles come out in 2013 (sorry, wii doesn't count in this race) then in 2019 they will only be 5 years old, and will not be replaced (sadly) for another 3 years. nVidia may have the parts to get the job done, but that does not mean anyone will be using them..
So he is saying the xbox 720 with its 4800 AMD based video card will be doing tens of teraflops in 2019?!?!?
Because if the 720 launches in 2013, and has a lfe cycle anything life the 360, then it will only be 6 years old in 2019 with a GPU that came out on 2009
If what the Mayans have been predicting about 2012 is true... well... it might not be.
The Mayans didn't predict anything for 2012, and you are stupid to believe in the hype that the media and movies are making out of it. The only thing that happens in 2012 is that the stars align back to what they were at the start of the Mayan calender. Meaning their calender restarts.
This could be the first console release where even mainstream game rigs will be able to beat consoles on quality right out of the box. With the PS2/xBox consoles were a little ahead, then PS3/x360 it was the same quality as a main stream game PC for a few months.
You do realize this is dedicated special purpose hardware they use that in no way compares to mainstream PC parts right?
(besides, I would have to buy a TV to go with it... I think I'll stick with my nice 28" monitor).
Not sure why you would have to purchase a TV. I use my 24" monitor for both my gaming computer and my xBox with both connected to HDMI with a optical switch to switch to external speakers if I decide not to use my headphones for one reason or another.
The Mayans didn't predict anything for 2012, and you are stupid to believe in the hype that the media and movies are making out of it. The only thing that happens in 2012 is that the stars align back to what they were at the start of the Mayan calender. Meaning their calender restarts.
True. Mayan calender doesn't end, it restarts in 2012. It's like when a vehicle's milometer reaches its max, it resets to zero, not that if it reaches 999999999 miles and you drive it even one more inch, it will explode!
You do realize this is dedicated special purpose hardware they use that in no way compares to mainstream PC parts right?Not sure why you would have to purchase a TV. I use my 24" monitor for both my gaming computer and my xBox with both connected to HDMI with a optical switch to switch to external speakers if I decide not to use my headphones for one reason or another.
It is more about keeping the console free from bloated OS. PCs with exact same hardware as a console would probably be left in dust because they also have other processes going on other than games and it is always easier to optimize for one set platform. For PCs, the drivers add an interface to run the hardware in OS thus slowing down the system.
Nah, my 3 overclocked 6970s can already do about 9 terraflops, and they still choke on high resolutions with AA on in certain games.
Guessing how things will be in 10 years is ridiculous.
Nvidia said on Wednesday that gaming systems will likely reach a performance of "tens of teraflops" by 2019 NOT....
Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang said on Wednesday that gaming systems will likely reach a performance of "tens of teraflops" by 2019.
This means our PC's will be able to do this in 2013. BTW, there's nothing that special about console hardware, unless you mean a custom motherboard that fits in a custom case (none of which being upgrade-able). As previously mentioned, the only way consoles can do anything close to what a PC can do is because of the purpose built OS. Consoles are for kids or having fun with friends on the couch. Hardcore gamer != console gamer.
Imagine the PC speeds..... Maxwell is supposed to be ~8x the ppW than Fermi (if the leaked roadmap is correct) and that's only ~2014 (give or take ~6 months or so perhaps?). Another 2/3 gens of cards after that, possibly much more powerful CPU's too.... Omnomnom. Low-end cards equivelant to dual 590's? That would be SO cool.
It is more about keeping the console free from bloated OS. PCs with exact same hardware as a console would probably be left in dust because they also have other processes going on other than games and it is always easier to optimize for one set platform. For PCs, the drivers add an interface to run the hardware in OS thus slowing down the system.
Meh not really. On one 5/6 y/o PC I have an E6600 w/ an X1600, it runs CoD4 on medium/high at 720p at about 45fps average, dipping to 25 minimum in high action parts (loads of 'nades going off, smoke and airstrikes etc) and max of 80 I think. Given the fact that I play 16-64 servers (can't remember what console max is but iirc they don't have more than 16 players on PS3, 360 is lower, or is that in another game?) it's pretty good. Anyone know what settings console has compared to PC? This PC has 2gb RAM though so that'd help, although I don't know what the equivelant CPU is.
Tl;dr:
Some effect but it's not that bad.
Stating the obvious, i wonder what's the point of this? this is no surprise, unless the technology gets worse then post something. im not surprise computers and technology gets better every year...
+1 reading comprehension fail.
That would be "failure". "Fail" is a verb, son. Please return to Third Grade English and go for the gold, and return to us when you're able to conjugate words properly.
maybe on a PC, PS and XBOX are way behind and do not update systems that fast. So if it's true next systems will be released 2013 that means maybe another one by 2019. I just don't see Sony or Microsoft using current technology in new systems. They haven't yet.