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Another Patch for RAGE on PC Coming Soon

By - Source: John Carmack via Twitter | B 42 comments

id Software will soon release a new patch for the PC version that will help sharpen some of the game's textures.

Friday id Software's John Carmack said that a patch is on the way to help alleviate the blurry textures in the PC version of RAGE. The patch will reportedly add a bicubic-upsample+detail texture option that should "de-blur" some of the game's textures.

A "detail texture" is essentially a small texture with some generic detail that's "tiled" across the base texture of an object. Epic Games offers a few screenshots showing the difference, with detail-texturing in the Unreal Engine Development Kit turned off here, and turned on here. This method makes the overall object textures look sharp and detailed even though the base texture is dull and blurry.

"Bicubic-upsample is just a form of interpolation, it isn't going to make it hardly any better," points out one Bethesda forum member. "To make it actually better, we need higher res texture packs, and I hope we don't have to wait a whole year for that."

Unfortunately, it doesn't look as if Carmack & Co. will release a higher-resolution textures pack anytime soon. "Our first test of a higher res page file didn't help much, because most source textures didn't actually have any more detail," Carmack said via Twitter.

So far the team hasn't indicated when the new patch will be released, so stay tuned.

UPDATE: One Tom's reader sent in a very interesting proposition to id Software about hosting hi-res textures for RAGE:

From my understanding, Carmack's statement - "Our first test of a higher res page file didn't help much, because most source textures didn't actually have any more detail" - was about changing the page file's resolution when converting the current HD Photo/JPEG XR insanely compressed textures that shipped with the game.  With those as a starting point, it makes no difference if you transcode them to DXTC at 8192 or 16384 res...

However, should a higher res HD Photo/JPEG XR or native DXTC texture pack come in the future, it would weigh close to 170 GB - 200 GB and would definitely bring better image quality to the game, but I feel they're shying away from such a big download or there would be issues with current PC/videocards having to deal with as much hi-res material for a single scene.  Detail texture overlays smell's like compromise...  Anyway, I feel the tech is very much "forward looking" and it'll only get better with future PCs.  After my initial underwhelmed feeling, I'm actually warming up to Id tech 5!


Hey John, I would gladly help pay for the bandwidth requirements should you release a SIGNIFICANT graphical update through DLC for a reasonable price...

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    saxplayingcompnerd , October 18, 2011 3:30 AM
    Rage= massive flop, the end.

    I was thinking about getting rage when i heard about it, but after seeing how awful the textures are and how the developers seem to not care that oblivion with a few mods has better textures, I don't think ill get it until I can find it for less than $15.
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    Browser , October 18, 2011 3:51 AM
    Yes it is actually a fun game, it's just that it's had such a marred release.

    I've only finished the first few missions / few hours because I figured I'd wait for the patches to come out before really digging into it.

    Once the glitches are sorted out it will be a great game, though id software really dropped the ball on the PC version at release time. It's like they paid little to no specific attention for the PC, which is shocking and disappointing especially from id software.

    To make it worse I don't buy their claims of blaming drivers for pretty much everything and then releasing patches, after all didn't they need drivers to test the game on the PC before release, or did they just skip that part. Also all this talking they're supposedly doing with the driver vendors should have been done before release if there were problems. If the game does present new problems for drivers you can hardly expect updated drivers to come out before the vendors have had time to test, update, retest etc. It's all 100% id software's fault.

    Good game, but id failed in a truly epic fashion with the PC release and their attitude about both that and the PC in general doesn't make me want to be very sympathetic.

    Great game or not, it is the last one I buy from id purely because it's an "id" game.
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    polly the parrot , October 18, 2011 3:37 AM
    Too late for a patch, the game is shit. Non-existent story, invisible walls, terrible problems upon launch, etc.

    id, you really shot yourself in the foot here.
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    thesnappyfingers , October 18, 2011 3:25 AM
    Eewuhhh, I would be pretty irate if I had an awesome gaming PC, then that funky stuff happens.
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    Anonymous , October 18, 2011 3:28 AM
    Is this game even remotely fun? Even the videos of it working properly seem so "blah". Just seems like the most generic rehashed game of all time, with a car thrown in.
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    saxplayingcompnerd , October 18, 2011 3:30 AM
    Rage= massive flop, the end.

    I was thinking about getting rage when i heard about it, but after seeing how awful the textures are and how the developers seem to not care that oblivion with a few mods has better textures, I don't think ill get it until I can find it for less than $15.
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    fb39ca4 , October 18, 2011 3:31 AM
    never mind fkin unreliable internet connection
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    polly the parrot , October 18, 2011 3:37 AM
    Too late for a patch, the game is shit. Non-existent story, invisible walls, terrible problems upon launch, etc.

    id, you really shot yourself in the foot here.
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    FulmeR , October 18, 2011 3:38 AM
    Quote:
    Is this game even remotely fun? Even the videos of it working properly seem so "blah". Just seems like the most generic rehashed game of all time, with a car thrown in.


    Thank you! I was starting to feel like I was the only one that was NOT pumped for this game before its realease. It looked like complete crap! Glad to know my "crap-game" spider senses are still working
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    clonazepam , October 18, 2011 3:40 AM
    I'd pick it up on Steam for $5-$10, by the time it drops to that price, it might be spiffy.
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    Browser , October 18, 2011 3:51 AM
    Yes it is actually a fun game, it's just that it's had such a marred release.

    I've only finished the first few missions / few hours because I figured I'd wait for the patches to come out before really digging into it.

    Once the glitches are sorted out it will be a great game, though id software really dropped the ball on the PC version at release time. It's like they paid little to no specific attention for the PC, which is shocking and disappointing especially from id software.

    To make it worse I don't buy their claims of blaming drivers for pretty much everything and then releasing patches, after all didn't they need drivers to test the game on the PC before release, or did they just skip that part. Also all this talking they're supposedly doing with the driver vendors should have been done before release if there were problems. If the game does present new problems for drivers you can hardly expect updated drivers to come out before the vendors have had time to test, update, retest etc. It's all 100% id software's fault.

    Good game, but id failed in a truly epic fashion with the PC release and their attitude about both that and the PC in general doesn't make me want to be very sympathetic.

    Great game or not, it is the last one I buy from id purely because it's an "id" game.
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    v1ze , October 18, 2011 4:01 AM
    I would like to file an internet motion to change the commonly used phrase from "epic fail" to "rage fail"
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    festerovic , October 18, 2011 4:01 AM
    i was waiting for about 20 seconds for the texture to load on the pic above.
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    Teddy Weddy , October 18, 2011 4:12 AM
    Bordershock. :V
    Scooter looks really different in Rage.
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20323786/Cars.jpg
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    clonazepam , October 18, 2011 4:40 AM
    Browser...I've only finished the first few missions / few hours because I figured I'd wait for the patches to come out before really digging into it...


    How's the AI up to this point? 1 guy shoots from cover, and alternates between popping out of cover either high or low, and the guy charges you in a zig-zag pattern. Repeat. Repeat. How many enemy combatants ever attacked you all at the same time? 2-3?

    I'm just asking... following up on some comments I heard/came across.
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    drew_nikel , October 18, 2011 4:42 AM
    This is a GREAT GAME. after the first patch and the the updated catalyst beta drivers, Rage runs absolutely smooth for me. Though it is lacking in story, it makes up for it with much diversity. As a shooter its very smooth and very fun to play. The few mini games are pretty good too. I've been sitting in my chair for hours trying to perfect the the knife/finger minigame. I get beat at round 5. The card game is nice as well. The car racing/shooter experience is simply awesome, and adds to the depth of gameplay. The graphics are equivelant to most directx 10 games but with much higher frates. Its unfortunate that so many others are having difficulty running this game, but for me this game runs almost flawless.
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    DjEaZy , October 18, 2011 5:18 AM
    ... no freeroam after ending... sad... and too short... but very beautiful...
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    alidan , October 18, 2011 5:36 AM
    saxplayingcompnerdRage= massive flop, the end.I was thinking about getting rage when i heard about it, but after seeing how awful the textures are and how the developers seem to not care that oblivion with a few mods has better textures, I don't think ill get it until I can find it for less than $15.


    id mande the game not brethersta, which roaly fd oblivion for the consoles, look at early pc only ai demos.

    ragesuxIs this game even remotely fun? Even the videos of it working properly seem so "blah". Just seems like the most generic rehashed game of all time, with a car thrown in.


    if you like shooters, this is by FAR the best one you can get, as the ai is that good.

    BrowserYes it is actually a fun game, it's just that it's had such a marred release. I've only finished the first few missions / few hours because I figured I'd wait for the patches to come out before really digging into it.Once the glitches are sorted out it will be a great game, though id software really dropped the ball on the PC version at release time. It's like they paid little to no specific attention for the PC, which is shocking and disappointing especially from id software.To make it worse I don't buy their claims of blaming drivers for pretty much everything and then releasing patches, after all didn't they need drivers to test the game on the PC before release, or did they just skip that part. Also all this talking they're supposedly doing with the driver vendors should have been done before release if there were problems. If the game does present new problems for drivers you can hardly expect updated drivers to come out before the vendors have had time to test, update, retest etc. It's all 100% id software's fault.Good game, but id failed in a truly epic fashion with the PC release and their attitude about both that and the PC in general doesn't make me want to be very sympathetic.Great game or not, it is the last one I buy from id purely because it's an "id" game.


    not everyone had problems with the game on the pc when it was launched, amd seams to have suffered the most, but even than many people had no problems at all.

    giving the game a patch to help the people who drivers had nothing to do with it is a nice little gesture.

    clonazepamHow's the AI up to this point? 1 guy shoots from cover, and alternates between popping out of cover either high or low, and the guy charges you in a zig-zag pattern. Repeat. Repeat. How many enemy combatants ever attacked you all at the same time? 2-3?I'm just asking... following up on some comments I heard/came across.


    the ai id different on different difficulties, from what i underatand, easy is... well... bad. normal shows you what the ai can do, and not sure about the higher difficulties, because i dodnt keep up with talk post launch. the girst few hours of the game are said to be kind of a grind, with mixed impressions, some love it some hate it, but once you are out of that, people generally praise the game.

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    all that said, i want a game to come out, that had 5 graphical settings, 1 for low end, one for mid, one for high, one for dual card high, and one as a higher than that joke. as in you pick the highest one, the graphics are broken to the point its worse than the low end, but eats the crap out of system resources, with an ongoing joke of patching the game to make the 4 low end look better on less resources, but the highest end fixes one aspect but completely breaks another, just to screw with everyone who has to have the best of the best or its crap.
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    the associate , October 18, 2011 7:12 AM
    My drivers aren't even up to date and I haven't run into any bugs...
    The only problem this game seems to have is that delayed texture loading BS.

    The Ai isn't bad, their decently elusive. I'm on hard and these guys pull acrobatic shit everytime they spot me...
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    the associate , October 18, 2011 7:17 AM
    I also forgot to mention...
    Don't these dupes even bother installing their bloody games on a PC that "isn't" configured to their specifics just to see wtf happens???
    Just a thought, since this "Bicubic-upsample" seems to be the largest fail that a game was completely built upon I've ever seen...
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    jjtober1 , October 18, 2011 7:42 AM
    I got Rage about 4 days after release, I'm not a huge shooter fan but mostly enjoyed it. In the past Carmack and id have been very community minded and I wanted to support them.
    As far as the game, I put in the Catalyst preview driver for Rage and it worked fine on my 5850. I upgraded to a GTX580 recently and it worked excellent on that as well w/o any preview drivers.
    Over all the game really did look beautiful, ran super nice too. Used about 40% of my 580 most of the time, constant 60fps. A few ugly textures, but I only remember seeing a couple that really bothered me.
    Wish they would mega-texture a more appealing world than a desert wasteland though... that's id for ya.
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    trandoanhung1991 , October 18, 2011 7:55 AM
    This game is a big, big letdown for me. The game starts out fine, I played it fine, no major beef with it. But, it's just too short!!!

    I mean, what the hell, the final mission was utter crap!!! It just ends, abruptly, making me feel very frustrated for investing time into it. The story seemed like it was just unfolding, and then poof it ends.
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