EA Explains Why Crysis 2 Was Pulled from Steam
EA wants full control of updates and downloadable content, and Valve doesn't allow that kind of funny business on Steam.
A few weeks ago, EA re-launched its online store as "Origin" and announced that digital PC versions of Star Wars: The Old Republic and Battlefield 3 would be exclusive titles. Shortly thereafter, Crysis 2 disappeared from Valve's Steam digital distribution platform and then re-appeared on Origin, also slated as an exclusive.
At first it appeared as if EA was planning to move all of its high-profile PC games over to Origin, but it was later discovered that GamersGate and Direct2Drive still carried Crysis 2 in their libraries. Speculation thus followed, questioning whether there was some kind of turmoil going on between EA and Valve. Eventually that was indeed proven to be the case: Valve booted Crysis 2 right off of Steam in one swift kick.
"It's unfortunate that Steam has removed Crysis 2 from their service," an EA representative clarified. "This was not an EA decision or the result of any action by EA. Steam has imposed a set of business terms for developers hoping to sell content on that service - many of which are not imposed by other online game services. Unfortunately, Crytek has an agreement with another download service which violates the new rules from Steam and resulted in its expulsion of Crysis 2 from Steam. Crysis 2 continues to be available on several other download services including GameStop, Amazon, Origin.com and more."
EA's head of global e-commerce David DeMartini gave a more thorough explanation on Wednesday, saying that EA authorizes all of its games to be served up on digital distribution platforms, but only on certain conditions. "We take direct responsibility for providing patches, updates, additional content and other services to our players," he said. "You are connecting to our servers, and we want to establish an ongoing relationship with you, to continue to give you the best possible gaming experience. This works well for our partnership with Gamestop, Amazon and other online retailers."
"Unfortunately, if we’re not allowed to manage this experience directly and establish a relationship with you, it disrupts our ability to provide the support you expect and deserve," he added. "At present, there is only one download service that will not allow this relationship (aka Steam). This is not our choice, and unfortunately it is their customer base that is most impacted by this decision. We are working diligently to find a mutually agreeable solution."
DeMartini said that, going forward, EA will continue offering its games to all major download sites. So far, Valve has yet to respond to DeMartini's explanation.
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I Would like to know what happened to the crysis 2 players on steam though. Are they still able to play their game? Were they refunded? or were they left out..
Let the "games" begin!
ROFL
I Would like to know what happened to the crysis 2 players on steam though. Are they still able to play their game? Were they refunded? or were they left out..
I have Crysis 2 through steam and nothing has appeared to change. I still get the updates, online access, and everything else. If I hadn't seen the news articles I would of never known it was pulled.
look EA....I love what you guys did with the published series battlefield and the works on bf3, but listen if you want bf3 to available to the pc market, valve/steam owns the pc market and your going to have to get over that and allow us gamers to enjoy the full extent of bf3, and no we will not use origin.
This article doesn't clearly cover what the disagreement was over. Steam wants to manage DLC on their own, but EA/Crytek did something different with Crysis 2 and wanted to manage the DLC themselves. This went aaginst Steams agreement they have with supported tittles and pulled the plug over this decision.
Crysis pissed off allot of players because of their lack of PC support so no biggie regarding steam. Perhaps an EA pushing out the game too soon but either way it was not ready for PC at launch and required a huge separate patch to get the game PC worthy.
I bet EA does not have the consumers best interest at heart, whereas Steam does. Steam saves, and provides users with a dialog to past the CD key and provides description when there are other limitations (install limits, monthly or ingame fees, etc). I am betting that there is some inherent DRM limitation (via patches and such). Somehow, I trust Steam to be more open, where there has to be more to what this EA PR representative is saying.
I dont get it, what limitations? Lots of text, but nothing is really said. We can buy GFWL games on steam (for example bioshock2), and updates/DLCs are handled seperately from steam (via live client). So this magical Valve control over steam games seams like a big fat lie.
Cloud computing is gonna soak the life out of your wallet, security & Identity and that is where this is all headed
Still can't connect to multiplayer. No support.
Did anyone else catch how EA is complaining that Steam, a distribution platform, is behaving like a distribution platform? A couple tricky PR statements tried to make Steam look like they've done something horrible, and that their system is inadequate. In reality, the way EA wants to control Crysis 2 is what is incompatible.
Here's what EA really said, in layman's terms: "We violated Steam's TOS and got spanked for it. That's ok though, because we want to control you more than Steam will allow."
Wow, that's the longest way I've ever seen to spell "we're a sack of useless dicks".
I really could care less about Crysis 2 being pulled from steam. H hear alot of people saying that they wont buy any games besides though steam. Well I did something a few weeks ago that may come as a surprise. I bought Fallout New Vegas on D2D and once they e-mailed me the CD key I went to steam and gave them the key and steam accepted it as a valid CD key for Fallout NV. Steam asked if I wanted to start downloading it and of course I did. Now during the Summer camp sale I bought the first two DLC for Fallout NV and everything went fine nothing hiccuped so if D2D has a sale on a game you want to you want it though Steam then there is nothing stopping you from using Steam
Steam++ !
EA you care nothing of pc gamers so why should we care about you?
I Would like to know what happened to the crysis 2 players on steam though. Are they still able to play their game? Were they refunded? or were they left out..
I beat the game before this happened (dissapointed with SP) and the multiplayer didn't interest me I will have to fire it up and see if it still works on both!
Edit: Oh someone already beat me to it ha ha looks like everything is still working on mine too!
I have Crysis 2 through steam and nothing has appeared to change. I still get the updates, online access, and everything else. If I hadn't seen the news articles I would of never known it was pulled.
So you got the DirectX11 and High Res Texture updates?
I am HIGHLY less likely to download more programs, just to download my games. The only reason Steam gets my business is because it's quicker/more convenient than you know what, and they offer badass sales.
EA can kiss it.
Wow, that's the longest way I've ever seen to spell "we're a sack of useless dicks".
Almost peed myself I was laughing so hard, Don't do that again.....
Here come the steam train
Good riddance EA.
From David DeMartini's own post, "My new role means that I’m involved in shaping EA’s policies for how players download our online games and services..."
So how's that working out for you, Dave?
I had to read his post twice just to fully appreciate the amount of spin, buzzword bingo, vagueness, and weasel-speak.
Stop being douches EA, just stop being douches.
Steam is a complete platform that also gives updates (don't know how it works though, agreements wise) and you guys telling them they can't, it's just stupid.
Cheers!
If EA cares so much about my games why is BF:BC2 so broken and shitty?
Well, I know I will sound like the lone dissident against Steam here, but I don't like them. I wanted to get Fallout New Vegas, not online, but an actual DVD from Target. However, to play it i HAVE to have a Steam account and logon to Steam to play. Why? Why must I use this "distribution service" for a single player game when I didn't get it from this service?
And what is wrong with EA wanting to control how content for THEIR game is distributed instead of another, competing publisher in Valve? Let's face it, EA and all these other companies made a huge mistake by getting into business with something that is owned by a competitor. It will end up in the consumer getting hurt.
I know when I bought Dragon Age I did so off the EA Store. My download was identical to what was on the CD. A friend of mine bought his off Steam. It was not the same as what a person would have gotten off a CD and he had issues that were different because there was differences in install and setup items. He got them cleared up, but in doing the research to find the fixes, it was indeed clear that there were differences between the versions.
It's really disturbing how people criticize content makers wanting control of their content rather than a competitor controlling their content.
Did anyone else catch how EA is complaining that Steam, a distribution platform, is behaving like a distribution platform? A couple tricky PR statements tried to make Steam look like they've done something horrible, and that their system is inadequate. In reality, the way EA wants to control Crysis 2 is what is incompatible.Here's what EA really said, in layman's terms: "We violated Steam's TOS and got spanked for it. That's ok though, because we want to control you more than Steam will allow."
Is EA not the publisher of Steam? How is it wrong for the publisher of Crysis 2 to want to control how content that they publish and own gets ditributed? Why should Valve, a competitor, get to say how other companies get to do business?
I'm sorry, all I see in your post is how Valve, a competitor, should be the one to decide how content is distributed for EA games. Please explain why that should be?
Typo in my above post. I meant is EA not the publisher of Crysis 2.
There is a Crysis 2 and also FU EA.
It's really disturbing how people criticize content makers wanting control of their content rather than a competitor controlling their content.
Okay, time for a little gaming industry 101. There's a lot of history here too, EAs been around since 1982, and is often referred to as a Evil Empire, and a studio killer.
The "content maker" of Crysis 2 is Crytek (the correct term is Developer).
In this case, EA is the Publisher.
Steam, a service of Valve was the Distributor.
Valve is all three, developer, publisher, and distributor, depending on the title. Valve in this case is not a "competitor". Valve and EA have many partnership agreements, depending again, on the title. Sometimes Valve is a distributor, sometimes EA is a distributor (like Portal 2, Valve is the developer and publisher, but EA is a retail distributor for the game).
look EA....I love what you guys did with the published series battlefield and the works on bf3, but listen if you want bf3 to available to the pc market, valve/steam owns the pc market and your going to have to get over that and allow us gamers to enjoy the full extent of bf3, and no we will not use origin.
You won't? Well you're not gonna be playing BF3 then, are you?
Okay, time for a little gaming industry 101. There's a lot of history here too, EAs been around since 1982, and is often referred to as a Evil Empire, and a studio killer.The "content maker" of Crysis 2 is Crytek (the correct term is Developer).In this case, EA is the Publisher.Steam, a service of Valve was the Distributor.Valve is all three, developer, publisher, and distributor, depending on the title. Valve in this case is not a "competitor". Valve and EA have many partnership agreements, depending again, on the title. Sometimes Valve is a distributor, sometimes EA is a distributor (like Portal 2, Valve is the developer and publisher, but EA is a retail distributor for the game).
EA is still the publisher. Valve, the owner of Steam, is also a publishing company and still EA's competitor.
What people seem to miss in this, is that Valve is wanting to control how one publisher does business and how it manages it's library. If EA wanted to put patch and DLC downloaders into the games own launcher, is that something Valve (Steam) should have any say so over? And from a consumer standpoint, this is allowing Valve to hold all other games hostage forcing the publishers to distribute content the way Steam says so. Shouldn't Steam just stick to selling the games?
It's like the example I gave above about Fallout New Vegas. I was interested in that, a Bethesda title, until I learned I had NO choice but to make a Steam account to play it. Why should I have to make a Steam account to play a game I buy on a physical disc from a store? If it was a Valve game, ok, I would understand that. But it's not. Sorry, but this is something that would make Bobby Kotick proud. Sure he's not secretly running Steam as well?
I think in the end there's nothing wrong with EA trying to control the content that is distributed to its own game, such as crysis 2. However, I do understand that it's hard to support another companies digital distribution since steam is already such a great service and does truly express interest in its customers directly through its actions. But, whether we like it or not, I think a lot of companies are going to try and make their own digital distribution services due to the fact that value/steam have been extremely successful in this area. I do like how everyone uses value on the PC, it's much like are version of XBL except much better lol. But, let the best win I guess
Did EA said they wants full control of updates and downloadable content, and Valve doesn't allow that kind of funny business on Steam?? So now they want to handle this funny business themselves? Did I read something wrong here? So EA is try to be funny here?