What Gates and Jobs Really Think of Each Other
Bill is a gent and Steve comes off as, well, a little more cutting.
The Telegraph recently published an interesting piece entitled, "What Bill Gates and Steve Jobs Really Think of Each other." Putting each man's public comments regarding the other in one place, the piece aggregates some of the more interesting comments made by Bill and Steve over the years and it makes for some pretty interesting reading.
Jobs is definitely the more chatty of the two. The Apple boss has had a lot to say about Microsoft, Windows and Bill Gates over the years. Bill, on the other hand, has been pretty quiet about his Cupertino-based competitor.
In the beginning, Bill was a big fan. In 1984, Gates famously said the Mackintosh had what to took to create a new standard:
"To create a new standard, it takes something that's not just a little bit different; it takes something that's really new, and really captures people's imagination. And the Macintosh – of all the machines I've seen – is the only one that meets that standard."
Bill Gates (1984)
Steve, on the other hand, has been less complimentary of Microsoft's wares. In 1994, he declared he was disappointed with Redmond and its "third rate" products:
"I guess I am saddened, not by Microsoft's success – I have no problem with their success, they've earned their success for the most part. I have a problem with the fact that they just make really third rate products."
Steve Jobs (1994)
1994 was a busy year for Steve. He talked a lot about Microsoft back then; more so than he does now. It was the same year he opined that Windows may be Microsoft's biggest asset but it was also its biggest liability. Jobs also said that Microsoft had only had two goals in the decade leading up to 1994:
"Microsoft has had two goals in the last 10 years. One was to copy the Mac, and the other was to copy Lotus' success in the spreadsheet — basically, the applications business. And over the course of the last 10 years, Microsoft accomplished both of those goals. And now they are completely lost."
Steve Jobs (1994)
Steve also had some kinder words for Bill during that year:
"I think Bill Gates is a good guy. We're not best friends, but we talk maybe once a month. I think Bill and I have very different value systems. I like Bill very much, and I certainly admire his accomplishments, but the companies we built were very different from each other."
Steve Jobs (1994)
In 2008, Bill, ever the gentleman, says Apple is "fantastic" and keeping Microsoft on its toes:
"Whether it's Google or Apple or free software, we've got some fantastic competitors and it keeps us on our toes."
Bill Gates (2008)
However, just two years prior to this, Steve was accusing Microsoft of wasting money on research and development only to turn around and copy Apple and Google:
"Our friends up north [Microsoft] spend over $5bn on research and development, and all they seem to do is copy Google and Apple."
Steve Jobs (2006)
Fast forward to 2009 and Gates' wife, Melinda, reveals that iPhone and iPods are two of the very few things banned in the Gates household
"There are very few things that are on the banned list in our household, but iPods and iPhones are two things we don't get for our kids."
Melinda Gates (2009)
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I would have liked to see some more recent quotes from both of them. And they definitely paint Jobs as quite a jerk; I'm not thoroughly convinced yet, but I have my suspicions that he may very well be..
Jobs seems like quite the self righteous d-bag.
what happened to the caption of the week?
This would have been a great picture for it.
Jobs seems like quite the self righteous d-bag.
I would be too if I was that rich.. haha.
This would have been a great pic for a what are they saying contest!
Something like this:
Jobs: Have you seen the ipad, it's a striped down version of the iphone just this big.
Gates: I've seen your puny ipad, I can crush it with one hand!
Meh - I believe the reality is they've *both* copied each other over the years. Willingly or not; some ideas/features are good enough that they end up being deemed necessary in the eyes of the end users. At that point, you're forced to deliver or lose sales/share.
Regarding the banter itself: I would opine that Jobs has little to lose - and potentially a lot to gain in the eyes of his supporters and fence-sitters - by freely taking shots at Microsoft.
Bill Gates isn't quite as free to express an aggressive opinion in that area, as his comments (right or wrong) would inevitably be portrayed in the worst possible light. About the furthest he could go is to damn with faint praise.
Both men are clearly savvy enough to know this.
Good for Bill. What an awesome nerd!
There is no reason to publicly trash your opponent.
what happened to the caption of the week?This would have been a great picture for it.
My Caption:
"AGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRR STEVE!!!!! WHY DO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO BE SUCH A CONDESCENDING SMUG JERK?"
Bill Gates has always been a gentleman. I've never liked Microsoft, or their products too much, but it's REALLY hard to dislike Bill Gates as a man.
Steve Jobs? Kind of easy. Always has been. If he thinks Apple makes first rate products, he needs a better view through the looking glass. They make expensive garbage. Always have.
And that's why Bill Gates is richer than Steve Jobs.
"There are very few things that are on the banned list in our household, but iPods and iPhones are two things we don't get for our kids."
Melinda Gates (2009)
don't forget Playstation as well...
Well, gates has the look of the peaceful geek with good manors and who sits in his place, on the other side is jobs who looks more like the bully and the guy who can`t hear anybody over the sound of how awesome he is.
I don't blame them for banning the iPod, those headphones get dangerously loud, to the point of damaging people's hearing. The iPhone is just a phone using apples OS, what's the harm in it? I wouldn't be surprised about the Playstation being on that list though. Mrs. Gates seems like the kind of woman that would want to protect her children from violence and such. I find that to be an admirable trait by the way. I'm not trying to insult her in any way.
I think Jobs is Apple's biggest enemy.
Interesting progession of thoughts and comments by both of them.
Jobs is just giving honest criticism. It's true. It's sad seeing some of you crying about this. Gates doesn't need to bitch about Apple because there's enough of it on sites like this.
another "let me stir the pot" article by Jane.
Please try and keep your comments constructive.
Please try and keep your comments constructive.
Jane, your articles are my favorite on Tom's. Keep it up!
Put yourself in Steve's shoes. Here's a guy who always takes ideas from what you make, and turn it into something more successfull and become richer than you. Wouldn't despise that guy? Ofcourse you will. But that's just how the game is played. Everyone takes ideas from one another. So Steve should not hate. Bill overall is a nice guy. You've got to admire his philanthropy hobby. He's doing a lot of good to poor people in the world. Is Jobs doing any philanthropy? If he does I haven't heard about it.
why don't we through some of the Blamer comments in!
They keep comingncomingncoming....
And that's why Bill Gates is richer than Steve Jobs.
Not to mention more well respected.
Jane, your articles are my favorite on Tom's. Keep it up!
Aw, thank you! That's so sweet.
Just goes to prove that Steve Jobs is a stain in the industry.
Jobs' quotes are a huge waste of breath that does nothing to help anyone, except fill Jobs' pockets with cash from brain dead consumers (for the most part). This is the same reason I HATE HATE HATE any kind of fanboy, regardless of the product or service they stand behind. No one gives a f**k what you think is better, except weak minded people you are able to convert. It seems the word competition seems to be used intermittently among these same people... when it doesn't interfere with their fanboyism of course.
Throwing my captions in the ring.
1) Steve: I have this much money. Bill: Well I have this much.
2) Steve: The iPad has a touchscreen this big. Bill: It's a big iPod rofl. *slaps knee*
3) Bill: Catch this ball. Steve: Right through my hands...
[quote=Steve Jobs]"If you say, well, how do you feel about Bill Gates getting rich off some of the ideas that we had ... well, you know, the goal is not to be the richest man in the cemetery. It's not my goal anyway." [/quote]
Although it was said in '94, it's not Bill's goal either. Bill is trying to be the 21st Century Carnegie. Bill has said that he plans to leave, at most, 3% of his fortune to his kids (which is still pretty huge when you think about it) while the rest is used for charity in perpetuity.
Another caption.
Steve: Did you see hot woman?
Bill: She's a cougar. *rawr*
Jane, your articles are my favorite on Tom's. Keep it up!
Id have to agree to the max power.
Mr parrish and whoever that other guy is bores me to death with most of the crap they post just to post.
You should be promoted Mrs!
Keep up the solid work. And have a lovely day.
At first when I read this, I started to think that maybe Gates is a much better person than Jobs is morally. But now I realize that it is a lot easier to be nice when you're winning.
Id have to agree to the max power.Mr parrish and whoever that other guy is bores me to death with most of the crap they post just to post.You should be promoted Mrs!Keep up the solid work. And have a lovely day.
I appreciate the compliments but both Kevin and Marcus are my friends. Marcus in particular, actually (he'd be "that other guy"). Try and be nice!
Id have to agree to the max power.Mr parrish and whoever that other guy is bores me to death with most of the crap they post just to post.You should be promoted Mrs!Keep up the solid work. And have a lovely day.
Wait, what other guy? Is there someone else around here that we don't know about?
Wait, what other guy? Is there someone else around here that we don't know about?
Oh lol... I honestly think all of you are great. I come back to Tom's again and again to read what you guys write, as well as the comments by other posters. The community here never fails to make me laugh, whether it be at a misspelled insult by a passing troll, or just a fun article full of silly comments like this. Don't ever let the trolls get you down, you guys all rock.