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AMD Won't Be Selling 20 nm GPUs This Year

By - Source: Seeking Alpha

Sadly, it seems we also won't be seeing any 20 nm GPUs from AMD this year either.

Recently, we heard a rumor that there likely wouldn't be any 20 nm GPUs from Nvidia this year. Now, it seems that the same applies to AMD.

The meeting in which the information came to light was about AMD's finances, but a couple of details about AMD's future plans also came up. AMD's Senior Vice President Lisa Su indicated that AMD is working on designing 20 nm GPUs, but they won't be arriving this year.

"So what we've said in the past is certainly this year all of our products are in 28-nanometer across both, you know, graphics client and our semi-custom business. We are, you know, actively in the design phase for 20-nanometer and that will come to production. And then clearly we'll go to FinFET. So that would be the progression of it."

"I think what I said earlier sort of what we're doing in terms of technology strategy, we are 28 this year, we have 20-nanometer in design, and then FinFET thereafter."

It is not clear what this means for the graphics market. Expecting 20 nm chips to hit shelves this year still might have been a bit ambitious. Whether AMD is working on another generation of graphics hardware based on the 28 nm lithographic process is unclear, but it is possible that the Rx 300 series of cards, or at least the introductory cards, will still be based on the 28 nm fabrication. This is simply a thought though, so do be sure to take that with a grain of salt.

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    AMD Radeon , April 23, 2014 4:02 PM
    Nooo

    but AMD please spoil something new for us, like nvidia did with gtx 750 ti
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    sha7bot , April 23, 2014 4:14 PM
    Did AMD give a timeline for FinFET? Will they be using Global Foundries for this? Why is Intel not using this, but instead working on 14nm via Tri-Gate? Moar info!!
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    sha7bot , April 23, 2014 4:32 PM
    Quote:
    Did AMD give a timeline for FinFET? Will they be using Global Foundries for this? Why is Intel not using this, but instead working on 14nm via Tri-Gate? Moar info!!


    Guess I should do some research before I post... Tri-Gate is Intel's version of FinFET. So AMD is will be three or four generations behind when they finally manufacture on it.
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    memadmax , April 23, 2014 4:58 PM
    Sooooo...

    Just do what intel does and take the same die design and shrink it onto the 20nm process and pray for a successful hail mary...
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    PlayerTwo , April 23, 2014 5:14 PM
    The fab process is not the only path to better products. I'm sure between now and then, especially with the onset of Mantel and DX12, both AMD and Nvidia would be offering competitive offerings with more features and improved thermal/power efficiency.
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    aggroboy , April 23, 2014 6:32 PM
    Quote:
    Did AMD give a timeline for FinFET? Will they be using Global Foundries for this? Why is Intel not using this, but instead working on 14nm via Tri-Gate? Moar info!!

    If anything, it seems like AMD may skip planar 20nm and wait for FinFET.
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    Shankovich , April 23, 2014 6:57 PM
    gg TSMC
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    DookieDraws , April 23, 2014 7:31 PM
    A lot of PC gamers are saddened by the delay of AMD's and NVIDIA's newest cards. What a shame!



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    de5_Roy , April 23, 2014 9:14 PM
    amd should ask ibm, they have a working 22nm soi process that's producing the new power cpu.... :whistle: 
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    CaptainTom , April 23, 2014 11:52 PM
    The only correct response to news like this is :( 
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    houldendub , April 24, 2014 1:37 AM
    Don't worry, I'm sure AMD will release the 7xxx series again before we get anything at 20nm.
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    Wisecracker , April 24, 2014 5:20 AM

    Quote:
    Don't worry, I'm sure AMD will release the 7xxx series again before we get anything at 20nm.


    I :lol: 'd
    (being that nVidia simply OC'd and re-badged the 600-series)

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    AngryCorgi , April 24, 2014 5:45 AM
    Thanks, TSMC.
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    jasonpwns , April 24, 2014 5:52 AM
    This is a shame, but I guess it was expected. I was looking forward to a 20mm 800 series this year from nvidia and I'm sure AMD fans wanted 20mm too. Disappointing for customers on both ends, but I suppose better to have it done "right" than completely wrong.
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    Shin-san , April 24, 2014 6:10 AM
    I'm not surprised that both AMD and nVidia are affected. They use the same fabs

    Quote:
    amd should ask ibm, they have a working 22nm soi process that's producing the new power cpu.... :whistle: 
    IBM is in a sharing alliance with GlobalFoundries. It's definitely possible, though
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    KelvinTy , April 24, 2014 6:25 AM
    Does this mean the gap between AMD APU and Intel CPU with igp will have less of a gap?
    Damn, AMD is losing battles in all fronts!
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    de5_Roy , April 24, 2014 6:37 AM
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    Does this mean the gap between AMD APU and Intel CPU with igp will have less of a gap?
    Damn, AMD is losing battles in all fronts!

    no, the gap won't lessen. amd has made a big performance jump with kaveri's igpu. intel's igpu is weaker by design and gets worse support from drivers.
    that's not the most important reason. the most important reason is price. intel's top desktop sku with iris pro cost more than twice kaveri's price and comes soldered to the motherboard.
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    Haravikk , April 24, 2014 7:40 AM
    Personally I'm hoping their focus is on pushing FinFETs to market; a 20nm process would be nice, but FinFETs seem to have much higher potential gains. It's not like we're exactly starved for performance right now, the main issue IMO is the cooling that's required, and while a 20nm process could improve the situation, FinFETs ought to do a much better job of it.
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    timaahhh , April 24, 2014 9:51 AM
    Problems TSMC??????
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    Zepid , April 24, 2014 9:54 AM
    Quote:

    Quote:
    Don't worry, I'm sure AMD will release the 7xxx series again before we get anything at 20nm.


    I :lol: 'd
    (being that nVidia simply OC'd and re-badged the 600-series)



    Are you slow or just stupid? It is called the tick-tock strategy and every tech company uses it. You release a new generation of processors on a new die shrink, then you release a 2nd generation of it under optimal conditions/tweaks.

    That is how it has always worked, that is how it will always work, until we hit a wall with modern computing and have to move on to the next great thing.

    400->500
    600->700
    800->900

    Same thing with CPUs and same thing with AMD. They all do this, it is how you operate.
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