AMD Introduces A6-3500 Desktop APU

Just ordered my first A8 mobo/CPU. Looking forward to playing with the new tech. Very promising platform for mainstream uses.

Should have typed A6 (brain cramp). Doh!!!

A big part of me doesn't want to hear anything else from AMD unless it's, "Hey everybody, here's Bulldozer."

Davendork, I think 90% of readers of this site feel exactly the same way. Just shut up and get bulldozer out. Enough delays.

IMO, the clocks are too low for the CPU, should be clocked at 2.5 ghz at least ( non turbo ) to match the old Athlon IIs...but then again, this chip has a hell of a GPU

i can hardly wait for a cheap 2 core version - HTPC dream!

Guys. They are releasing these chips as well. Bulldozer has a hard release date of Sept 18th.

I sure hope so.

Interesting how they left the mobile versions with unlocked multipliers while the desktop is locked. Worse higher wattage samples. Low clocks are the losing point of all the recent apu-s. I got a a4 3300m but at least it overclocks to 2.35ghz thus far but performance scaling isn't noticeable until 2.2ghz. The gpu is good though.

WTB BD

my a4 3300m runs really hot at stock clocks when running games, how hot is yours overclocked?

Even if it competes with Sandybridge, which it won't, Ivy will be out in 6 months putting it a generation behind....again.

See AMD's last priority is bulldozer, apparently it's everyone elses priority. AMD is playing the smart game, releasing products that can actually make them money. Bulldozer won't, that's why it's at the bottom of their "release" list.

yay heres a cookie for you and your mom

lol

So, did Bulldozer get released yet. Until then, AMD is not allowed to make another announcement, if AMD has cured cancer, invented cold fusion, solved world hunger, and landed a manned mission to Mars they better not announce it unless it involves the words Bulldozer Released.

Exactly how is AMD going to be "a generation behind" Intel?? They use completely different release schedules and product cycles.

Intel uses the "tick-tock" release cycle. AMD uses the "we'll release a new product when we have a new product ready to be released" cycle. They make no attempt what so ever to keep up with Intel's release cycle.

The also make no attempt to release a competitive product as it pertains to the CPU market.

Truth hurts...

AMD might just be trying to maximise its income in order to put as much into Bulldozer as possible. They can't still be struggling with bad silicon.

yes and no, the high end processors are not where the money is, bulldozer could wipe intel out and yet their fusion APUs will still make them more money

Not quite; a lot of AMD's money comes from the server business, an area they've lost a lot of market share in.

I really dont understand why anyone is using these A6 or A8 chips in desktop builds. Maybe if you have barely any money, but the performance level is so low that a i3 and a low end gpu would trump it.

This is because you know *** about markets and how the monney are made. Take for example Nvidia / AMD have the most powerfull GPUs yet they are not the leaders in GPU sales ... Intel is. So is not really about the top performance ... entry level and mainstream are the money makers not the enthusiast. And in entry / mainstream as you can see AMD is doing quite fine with competition.

If you're looking for more GPU power, chances are you'd be buying a different platform anyways. This is aimed at the mainstream market that does no gaming, does not crunch numbers on the CPU or GPU and people within a lower budget. Not everyone needs the fastest tech out there. You wouldn't build a i7 2600k with a GTX 570 for an office computer that only would be running Word, IE and Outlook, would you?

( smiles wider and wider, mad look appears on his face)
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All power to the engines!

Big + for amd and their kickass APU :-]

Intel seems to be doing only wrong steps in this region (now)
I just wander if Ivy Bridge will also pack strongest gpu where no1 will actually use it.

That would be true if the one and only factor of computation power was clock speed...

^ Agreed. Moreover, with $90 you'll get a $60 CPU + $60 GPU, make it $50 for the lowered clocks... The cheapest Pentium G620 is $65, which leaves $25 for a GPU. Did someone just said LOW END GPU?

Yawn

its not really about the apu being slower than an intel cpu + gpu. Its more about pc manufacturers. In the casual market, people look for simplicity and saving money. The APU is dirt cheap and is low power, and manufacturers are already noticing this and swarming in. The APU can do just fine for the casual user and can support stronger apps like games. and all of this can be done with a tiny pc. If some motherboard makers decide to get rid of the pci-e(no use for casual user)the can make cases even smaller than mini towers. Simple, gets the job done, and saves money on power.

And theyre not that slow either. I have an A4 laptop (the weakest apu) and it runs bioshock and any valve game at high settings with 30fps. the cpu isnt as powerful as a core i3, but the casual user doesnt really notice or care about compression times, decoding, and renderng, and such things like that. it just gets the job done easy.

It's certainly less important than Bobcat, but it's not at all clear it won't make money. You have the AMD dorks that try to portray Bulldozer as a real competitor to Sandy Bridge in a broad sense, and it won't be. The design is well known, and it's not intended to compete head on.

Having said that, it's going to offer great price/power/performance for situations where you have a lot of threads (more than the true CPU cores, or modules in AMD talk) and they are using integer. Or, really, where hyper-threading (with regards to integer workloads) is important, AMD will beat hyper-threading. It's not everything, but it's better they are now, and it's not a tiny segment of the workload.

But, what you seem to understand, and most do not, is that Bobcat is a huge game changer. It's a huge market, and it's an extremely attractive product in that segment. The GPU is a bit strong for the CPU though, but otherwise AMD hit a home run, and this product is going to hurt Intel much more than Bulldozer will. But, saying Bulldozer won't make money is taking it too far. It's going to be very attractive for a segment, and AMD can still price low enough where it will work in other segments as well. I think they can make money on it, unless Intel is very aggressive. I know Bobcat is making money, and gaining market share. It should, it's an excellent product.

Er... no.
AMD doesn't have the deep pockets that Intel has. Ever notice how many AMD TV ads you see vs. Intel? Oh yeah, NONE. Yet AMD has a good chunk of the CPU market.

Also, Intel used illegal business tactics (keeping AMD out of DELL, etc) which reduced their sales. So back in the P4 days, intel was making money out the nose with a big hot slow CPU... advertising its HIGH speed (clocks), etc. While tech people were buying AMDs, but AMD was slowly gaining sales.

Just before Core2 came out, AMD was actually selling very very well. Going into Office supply stores, etc - there were 4 AMD systems to each intel (desktops / not notebooks). The info us techies knew was filtering down to the common users.

Then Core2 came out and knocked AMD down hard... and with Intel Selling the Core2 for a LOW price, they were kicking AMD in the balls, over and over again.

If AMD has more money, making more profit, etc... they can afford more techs to work on technology. If AMD has 500 people working on a CPU design, Intel would have 2000... guess who will finish first?