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Report: AMD's Catalyst 14.1 Beta Driver to Carry Pack Patch

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Hopefully, we'll soon be re-benchmarking Battlefield 4 with AMD's Mantle API.

Reports all over the web indicate that AMD's next Catalyst driver, Catalyst 14.1 Beta, will carry the Mantle API. Based on the numbering of this driver, it is due for release sometime later this month. So far we've heard great things about Mantle, but never have seen it in action.

Mantle is an API that is intended to rival Direct3D and OpenGL, and while it's optimized for the Graphics Core Next architecture, it allows much more direct access to the hardware, allowing significant performance improvements. A recent slide leak shows that Battlefield 4 will have a performance improvement of up to 45 percent. The corner of the slide shows that this was observed on a system running with an AMD A10-7850K Kaveri APU along with an AMD Radeon R9 290X graphics card.

Are these reports accurate? We don't know, but we certainly can hope so!

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    rolli59 , January 14, 2014 4:29 PM
    Hope we get a follow up with benchmarks as soon as released!
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    Warsaw , January 14, 2014 4:36 PM
    Interesting....I wonder if we'll start getting better CPU performance out of AMD's CPU's then when it's crossed between? Can't wait to see some benchmarks when fully released.
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    ern88 , January 14, 2014 4:48 PM
    Hope this comes out before the end of this week!!!
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    damric , January 14, 2014 5:32 PM
    Needs mantle games for mantle to work. Hope we get some.
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    salgado18 , January 14, 2014 5:32 PM
    If it is true then I'll be happy, as a 7970-owner, but if the A10 is somehow faster than an FX because of it's GPU/OpenCL/Wizardry, then I'll get really excited...If not, then why not use their top CPU?
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    jimmysmitty , January 14, 2014 5:43 PM
    I wonder if it means 45% better throughput or FPS. It seems like an insane claim and the truth is I would hope so but it is all about if the games jump onto it or if they leave it on the side.
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    alextheblue , January 14, 2014 5:54 PM
    Well... it will improve CPU performance in a manner of speaking, because it has less overhead than Direct3D or OpenGL. This will benefit Intel processors too (when equipped with GCN discrete graphics). However, it may actually help AMD more (as a percentage) since they tend to have lower IPC, and thus Mantle helps reduce per-thread CPU bottlenecks. I bet this will provide quite a large boost to GCN-equipped APU-only setups quite a bit (especially mobile), since it somewhat mitigates the need for faster CPU cores. How big of an impact this will have depends on how many engines support it. Frostbite is a really big win, however.
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    iam2thecrowe , January 14, 2014 6:28 PM
    dont really care about this for bf4, but will be interesting to see how well it works when the new thief game is released.With less cpu overhead i guess the greatest benefits will come to those with lower end cpu's.
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    rishiswaz , January 14, 2014 8:02 PM
    The new A10s are not faster than a 7970 on any 6 core or 8 core FX CPU, the 4 core ones will lag behind for sure but the thing is games are not optimized for hsa/huma. If AMD can work out a solution like Virtu MVP or something like that for the APUs, it would allow you to have a full graphics card running when you need it (games or heavy GPU acceleration) and have a very competent iGPU running for smaller things ( web browsing, productivity, web browser GPU acceleration, etc.). If they can get that to market with what the best they have now being the 95W TDP A10 with the iGPU included, they can really lower the TDP and keep the system cooler if the CPU was not running any graphics and a lot of potential in that for Mini-ITX and Steam Machine markets
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    LtRoyalShrimp , January 14, 2014 11:10 PM
    If this is with an A10, imagine the performance with a 4770k. Oogle.
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    chumly , January 14, 2014 11:39 PM
    I'm sure if it were true, they would've already let the cat out of the bag. Sounds like a load of more horse shit to me.
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    west7 , January 15, 2014 1:26 AM
    i think mantle is one of the best thing happen in long time performance boost for free
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    Mathos , January 15, 2014 1:29 AM
    Wonder if people realize NVidia has been doing this for years? Thats why Previous Battlefield games have historically always performed better on Nvidia cards than ATI/AMD. Did people not realize that's what the nvapi thing was that popped up from most the way it's meant to be played games? And they were able to do this not through actual superior product, but because they controlled both consoles video hardware for the last generation. This is just AMD doing the same thing, so it's a sure bet we'll see many more games supporting mantle at least as long as AMD hardware is in all 3 current consoles.
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    Mousemonkey , January 15, 2014 1:31 AM
    Any takers?

    http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=385614
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    renz496 , January 15, 2014 2:16 AM
    Quote:
    Any takers?

    http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=385614


    wow 500mb for drivers? also this is interesting:

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    This will be promoted with a game called Thief, which is scheduled to release next month, while Battlefield 4′s Mantle patch is also expected to go live in February, although an actual date has not been pinned down yet.


    http://www.inentertainment.co.uk/20140107/mantle-api-running-bf4-with-speed-increase/

    i thought we are going to see BF4 in jan?

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-mantle-battlefield-4,25560.html
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    qlum , January 15, 2014 2:30 AM
    If those figures are accurate I think this warrants amd exclusivity especially since there is nothing preventing nvidea from making a similar thing and games / engines using both in addition to regular dx or opengl.
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    Mousemonkey , January 15, 2014 2:34 AM
    Quote:
    Quote:
    Any takers?

    http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=385614


    wow 500mb for drivers? also this is interesting:

    Quote:
    This will be promoted with a game called Thief, which is scheduled to release next month, while Battlefield 4′s Mantle patch is also expected to go live in February, although an actual date has not been pinned down yet.


    http://www.inentertainment.co.uk/20140107/mantle-api-running-bf4-with-speed-increase/

    i thought we are going to see BF4 in jan?

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-mantle-battlefield-4,25560.html


    According to the comments this is a pre-release of the upcoming beta but I can't say for sure, obviously.
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    bobforapples , January 15, 2014 3:53 AM
    Quote:
    If it is true then I'll be happy, as a 7970-owner, but if the A10 is somehow faster than an FX because of it's GPU/OpenCL/Wizardry, then I'll get really excited...If not, then why not use their top CPU?
    They are using the A10 because the FX series is dead in the water, they want to advertise their latest and greatest and that's Kaveri.
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    TheinsanegamerN , January 15, 2014 7:46 AM
    Quote:
    Wonder if people realize NVidia has been doing this for years? Thats why Previous Battlefield games have historically always performed better on Nvidia cards than ATI/AMD. Did people not realize that's what the nvapi thing was that popped up from most the way it's meant to be played games? And they were able to do this not through actual superior product, but because they controlled both consoles video hardware for the last generation. This is just AMD doing the same thing, so it's a sure bet we'll see many more games supporting mantle at least as long as AMD hardware is in all 3 current consoles.
    the xbox 360 runs on an ati x1800 spin-off. so no, they did not have this kind of technology, nor control. they controlled a larger market share, and help developers make games run better on THEIR architecture. nvidia's drivers are still superior to AMDs, that is why they perform better in most games. not sure where your facts are coming from, but they are dead wrong.
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    06yfz450ridr , January 15, 2014 8:58 AM
    now lets hope it works with xfire from the starts haha
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