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iPhone OS Caused a 'Crisis of Design' at Samsung

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Was Samsung Just Caught With Its Hand in the Cookie Jar?

If it looks like an iPhone and if it feels like an iPhone, it must be an iPhone. Not necessarily. It could also be another smartphone, a Samsung smartphone, for example. A company memo recently released as part of the Apple-Samsung trial seems to confirm that Samsung may have been working on a blatant copy of the iPhone.

The memo, published by All Things Digital, and brought up in the arguments of legal counsels in the court case between Apple and Samsung appears to not have just one smoking gun against Samsung, but several in a rapid fire succession. Here are some examples:

“I hear things like this: Let’s make something like the iPhone.”

“When everybody (both consumers and the industry) talk about UX, they weigh it against the iPhone. The iPhone has become the standard. That’s how things are already.”

 “Do you know how difficult the Omnia is to use? When you compare the 2007 version of the iPhone with our current Omnia, can you honestly say the Omnia is better? If you compare the UX with the iPhone, it’s a difference between Heaven and Earth.”

Of course, these are product discussions that are held in many industries about many products. Intel's competitors may have had discussions that surrounded around the thought "let's make something like an Ultrabook" (purely speculating here), but the Samsung emails are rather damaging for the company under the aspects of the accusation that it has copied the iPhone.

 

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    Netherscourge , August 8, 2012 6:05 PM
    Of course Samsung based their initial designs on the iPhone - and then they added to it and made it BETTER!

    It's called innovation.
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    Desertlax , August 8, 2012 6:15 PM
    Unfortunately I can't take credit for this analogy, but another journalist mentioned of course you compare yourself to your competition, do you think that the current Olympic athletes don't look at how fast the person next to them is running? You look at your competition, and then attempt to beat them. I feel like this is apple entering the Olympics, and then claiming that they invented and patented the left-foot-then-right-foot style of running, everyone on of the things they are claiming was stolen from then existed before. Rectangles with rounded corners.....uh better call apple, my griddle copied their shape exactly, and an all glass from to a screen, uh oh, TV manufacturers were copying them even before they got the chance to patent it.
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    NightLight , August 8, 2012 6:20 PM
    NetherscourgeOf course Samsung based their initial designs on the iPhone - and then they added to it and made it BETTER!It's called innovation.

    could not have said it better.
    competition is what drives technology. all these documents prove is that samsung said: hey, our products need to improve, and they did that. Anyone who can't tell an iphone and a samsung apart needs glasses.
    these apple lawsuits are getting ridiculous.
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  • 27 Hide
    Netherscourge , August 8, 2012 6:05 PM
    Of course Samsung based their initial designs on the iPhone - and then they added to it and made it BETTER!

    It's called innovation.
  • 24 Hide
    Desertlax , August 8, 2012 6:15 PM
    Unfortunately I can't take credit for this analogy, but another journalist mentioned of course you compare yourself to your competition, do you think that the current Olympic athletes don't look at how fast the person next to them is running? You look at your competition, and then attempt to beat them. I feel like this is apple entering the Olympics, and then claiming that they invented and patented the left-foot-then-right-foot style of running, everyone on of the things they are claiming was stolen from then existed before. Rectangles with rounded corners.....uh better call apple, my griddle copied their shape exactly, and an all glass from to a screen, uh oh, TV manufacturers were copying them even before they got the chance to patent it.
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    NightLight , August 8, 2012 6:20 PM
    NetherscourgeOf course Samsung based their initial designs on the iPhone - and then they added to it and made it BETTER!It's called innovation.

    could not have said it better.
    competition is what drives technology. all these documents prove is that samsung said: hey, our products need to improve, and they did that. Anyone who can't tell an iphone and a samsung apart needs glasses.
    these apple lawsuits are getting ridiculous.
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    cscott_it , August 8, 2012 6:21 PM
    The only reason those e-mails are "damaging" is because that these patent trials have become more emotional than logical - several important bodies agree with this. I don't care who the patent holder is, you shouldn't be able to patent a "thin rectangular tablet" or "swipe to unlock" or "location of 'X'". Blatant copying is wrong, but this really isn't the case - it's the nature of all industry.
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    zzz_b , August 8, 2012 6:26 PM
    These articles from Wolfgang are getting worse!

    It is like Wolg Gang -ing on Samsung, and everything that is not Apple :) 
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    Tab54o , August 8, 2012 6:26 PM
    "iPhone OS Caused a 'Crisis of Design' at Samsung"

    So what you're saying is it can't run crysis....
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    dalethepcman , August 8, 2012 6:26 PM
    I fail to see how this is a smoking gun. Maybe every auto maker should start lawsuits because the other automakers compare their vehicles to each other in emails. That should be proof enough that their design was stolen by the competition.
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    Tab54o , August 8, 2012 6:29 PM
    I think this is a very bad idea. The iphone is only a standard because it never changes but i think Android is far ahead of iJunk
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    cookoy , August 8, 2012 6:32 PM
    It's normal when people brainstorm on developing or improving a product to start at looking what products are currently selling well out in the market. They look at what are their competitors' strengths and what they are weak at. It's absurd to build your product on failed items that people don't want.
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    Netherscourge , August 8, 2012 6:36 PM
    So when Apple releases the iPhone 5 with a bigger screen, aren't they copying all their competition?

    Aren't they copying Google Maps by adding turn-based navigation to their in-house Apple Maps?

    Aren't they copying every other Smartphone manufacturer by adding 4G instead of just 3G?

    Do you see where I'm going here...?
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    Netherscourge , August 8, 2012 6:36 PM
    ...turn-by-turn navigation I mean
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    Anonymous , August 8, 2012 6:49 PM
    While I call this BS, same as everyone else here, I do think Apple may actually get somewhere in this law suit. If only because the law let's them patent rectangles (and, unlike other patents, design patents are never examined at time of registration. Absurd.)

    I do think (and hope) that they may be shooting themselves in the foot in the long term, though. Many techies already think Apple is losing its touch. And who does the "average consumer" listen to about tech? That's right, their geek friends who know best!

    Fingers crossed.
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    saturnus , August 8, 2012 6:55 PM
    Tab54oI don't know why they decided to use that UGLY POS shape. I always hated the way apple products looked and really this isn't innovation. You take a rectangle and round the corners and that's it. This design is shit.


    I won't say I like the design of the iPhone but it's iconic.

    It's also a blatant copy of danish designers Jacob Jensen (B&O) and Piet Hein (Super ellipse).
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    guru_urug , August 8, 2012 6:59 PM
    Apple doesnt realise that its hurting itself! I mean this patent war is getting ridiculous every day. I truly believe that this isnt about the money anymore(Apple makes plenty by stealing from its customers)...no no...Apple's got its ego hurt and its behaving like a kid who's been pushed on the playground. This is just causing more and more hate towards Apple. I refuse to support a company that would fall to such a level. This will come back to bite them..sooner or later(hoping sooner). I don't know what they think of themselves, I agree the iPhone was an amazing device when it was first launched but by no means can Apple claim all these utterly ridiculous patents. Now that the competition has caught up and bettered, Apple's just being a cranky kid. The world should reap the benefits of every innovation/invention. If every inventor had an attitude like Apples' we'd never progress or have the consumer culture and competition. I really marvel how the legal system even tolerates this kind of nonsense!! Atrocious!
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    ddpruitt , August 8, 2012 7:09 PM
    I don't see anything here about Samsung copying Apple's design. I see Samsung discussion their products against the benchmark, something everyone does.

    In fact if you actually READ the memo then it appears that it deals with early ideas regarding UI design. This article may as well have been written by Apple
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    d_kuhn , August 8, 2012 7:22 PM
    I can't believe that those statements could be damaging at all... change the names and products around and those same statements could be heard in any company that's fighting in a competitive market.

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    subaru41 , August 8, 2012 7:27 PM
    So how many manufactures copied the Blackberry when it was at it peak? Motorolla, Sony, Samsung, etc. So why is Apple different from any other company.

    Samsung compared its products to competition Apple to make its products better, so Apple feels like they deserve money. So my question is, where did Apple get its idea for the notification drop down screen? and why does the Siri icon look exactly like Google voice search icon? So in Apple's eyes, it is ok to copy Android, but nobody can mimic them.
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    subaru41 , August 8, 2012 7:30 PM
    Does anybody else think Apple needs a diaper change?
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    classzero , August 8, 2012 7:45 PM
    Tab54oI don't know why they decided to use that UGLY POS shape. I always hated the way apple products looked and really this isn't innovation. You take a rectangle and round the corners and that's it. This design is shit.


    Don't pretend that auto companies copy each other. You do not have a GM knock off of the Mini-cooper, or a Dodge knock off of the Ferrari. In fact the Porsche 911 was the 901 at first. But the French carmaker Peugeot claimed the copyright to any car names with a numeral zero in the middle, so when the 901 went into regular production in the fall of 1964, its name was changed to 911.

    http://www.edmunds.com/porsche/911/history.html
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    internetlad , August 8, 2012 7:45 PM
    I actually thought this was a legitimate post until I saw what the email entailed, At which point I looked at the author and realized that the article was no longer noteworthy.
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