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Asustek has unveiled the first USB 3.0 motherboard.
Asus Wednesday unveiled the first motherboard to support SuperSpeed USB. SuperSpeed USB, also known as USB 3.0, boasts transfer rates of up to 10 times faster than what users can expect with USB 2.0.
The Asus Xtreme Design P7DP55DE-E Premium packs two USB 3.0 ports and, given that the motherboard uses Intel's P55 Express Chipset, which doesn't even support USB 3.0, it's not surprising to learn some folk were a little confused when they first heard the news. However, Asus has enlisted the help of a third party controller, which makes for a pretty handy workaround.
Aside from the two USB 3.0 ports, the Xtreme Design P7DP55DE-E Premium has 10 USB 2.0 ports, six 3GB per second SATA ports, two 6GB per second SATA ports, two PCIe x16 graphic card slots and two Gigabit Ethernet ports.
All together now, ooooh!
Source : Tom's Hardware US
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still waiting for sata 3 and pcie 3
Man is this going to get annoyingly confusing with USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 ports right near each other
Man is this going to get annoyingly confusing with USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 ports right near each other
the usb 3s are blue.
i would rather just buy the p7p55d pro and their usb3 sata3 pcie x4 card, which is 29.99.
Jesus how the hell did they fit it all on that board?
still waiting for sata 3 and pcie 3
"two 6GB per second SATA ports"
Thats SATA gen 3.
Why isn't this X58?
So, the buying price of $299 is inflated for just TWO USB 3.0 ports? Like that's a buying factor for a motherboard anyway... but we'd also have to buy a third-party controller? Sounds like a "great" deal.
certainly has plenty of USB ports!
I'm with El_Capitan with the wait for USB 3. Sata 3.0 can wait as well. As for PCIe 3.0 WHY!? Nothing that has come out can even saturate a single 16x bus. The only use that I see is for SLI and even then if you buy a decent board you can at least get 2 2.0 x16 slots.
For $299, I'd want the USB 3.0, all the SATA to be 6.0, etc.
Otherwise, I'll stick with $200 and less for hardware I can get now.
but we'd also have to buy a third-party controller? Sounds like a "great" deal.
The controller is built on to the motherboard, so you would not need to buy anything other than the board.
They just wanted to be the first to jump out on this..., soon enough, USB 3.0 will be the standard as it is backwards-compatible with USB 2.0 devices. all motherboards will have only USB 3.0 ports soon enough, chipset design will follow suit, thy have to...
So is the USB 3-controller implemented in such a way as to not be bottlenecked on a single PCIe-line?
If it is this would be kinda pointless as USB 3-devices are likely to be backwards compatible anyway.
still waiting for sata 3 and pcie 3
SATA 3 will be worth waiting for... IF YOU USE A SOLID STATE DRIVE!
Otherwise SATA 2 is more than enough.
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Same story for PCIe 3.0
I don't know of any video cards that can reach the max capability of a PCIe (16X) slot. You really don't need more until technology advances on other fronts.
I think its really good to see a company step up and push 3.0 out to market. I've always liked Asus products and it seems that they are always pushing the standards at least on motherboards. Along with Gigabyte, they make some of the best mobo's around. So its no surprise they did this.
Not sure what 3.0 devices are currently out! Anyone know?
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Gigabyte was actually the first company to unveil a new line of mobos with USB 3.0 slots, which was about 2 days ago.
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileLis [...] models.htm
What is the selling point of USB 3.0. Faster data transfer with storage devices? eSATA aready offers that and my keyboard does not need something 10 times faster USB 2.0 to work correctly.
Not for most of us. Maybe in 10 years.
World's first USB 3.0 motherboard with very horrible RMA support. I'll be impressed when Evga comes out with theirs. *sweeps this Asus product under the carpet*
What is the selling point of USB 3.0. Faster data transfer with storage devices? eSATA aready offers that and my keyboard does not need something 10 times faster USB 2.0 to work correctly.
eSATA is adequate for a fixed implementation, but a portable device would work much better with USB3.0 since it supplies the power also.
Aside from the two USB 3.0 ports, the Xtreme Design P7DP55DE-E Premium has 10 USB 2.0 ports, six 3GB per second SATA ports, two 6GB per second SATA ports, two PCIe x16 graphic card slots and two Gigabit Ethernet ports.
This is incorrect and is likely confusing people. GB = gigaBYTE. Gb = gigabit. (8 bits in a byte) Those numbers should DEFINITELY not be gigaBYTE. You've got the numbers correct, but they're gigaBIT speeds.
Awesome, I wasn't expecting USB 3 boards until early next year. Aside from them being blue colored, are the USB 3 connections the same shape as USB 1 & 2?
Is there any equipment out there that supports USB 3 to use it with?
Same goes for SATA 3, though I think a few drives were introduced with SATA 3, just not sure if they actually sell them yet.
And of-course the biggest problem - bottleneck. Especially with P55 that only has a 2GB/s DMI linking the peripherals.
I think USB 3 and SATA 3 will only pay off once PCI Express 3 comes out, assuming by then there will be affordable devices that can actually benefit from all those three new 3rd generation technologies.
I'm confused... why not make all the USB ports 3.0...
all the ports arent usb3 as the usb3 controller chip costs $15 and supports only 2 ports, for them to make all 12 ports usb3 would cost alot of $$$. usb3 is indeed the same size and shape connector, it can also supply alot more power so external harddrives wont need a power supply too.
there is a sata3 hdd out: http://benchmarkreviews.com/index. [...] &Itemid=46
I'm confused... why not make all the USB ports 3.0...
I think it has something to do with how the USB3 ports are added in the first place. I think they are added on through a chip outside of where the USB is usually found. So they would need a larger chip to support more USB3 ports, which isn't feasible at this time.
kinda cool would like to demo this board for a few months..
Ok so now where is the X58? This should be standard in X58 mb's 2.0.......
Well lets's see.... a total of 12 USB ports on one motherboard. How much is enough?
Hmm... Since there's so much bandwidth on USB3, I wonder if I can get a hub and connect my keyboard, mouse, modem, MP3 player, thumb drive, bluetooth dongle, etc into one port...