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China Says U.S. Accusations are 'Groundless'

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

The saga continues in the ongoing Google China drama series.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton yesterday in a speech called on the Chinese government to look at the recent happenings leading up to Google's threat to pull out of China.

Clinton said in Washington, "We look to the Chinese authorities to conduct a thorough review of the activities that led Google to make its announcements… Chinese authorities need to provide an explanation for the cyberattacks originating on Chinese soil…"

The Chinese Foreign Ministry has responded indirectly to those comments through a spokesman comment on its website.

"The U.S. has criticized China’s policies to administer the Internet and insinuated that China restricts Internet freedom," said spokesman Ma Zhaoxu, as translated by Wired. "This runs contrary to the facts and is harmful to China-U.S. relations. We urge the United States to respect the facts and cease using so-called Internet freedom to make groundless accusations against China."

The Chinese spokesman did add that the government didn't want issue with Google to overwhelm cooperation with the Obama government. Ma said each side should "appropriately handle rifts and sensitive issues, protecting the healthy and stable development of China-U.S. relations."

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mp562 01/22/2010 11:41 PM
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Good for Hilary, it's about time someone speaks up.

happi 01/22/2010 11:46 PM
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It's politic, nobody knows the real truth, they all twist and turn using words.

If China really did it, you think they would admit that they did?
On other hand US gov want a pinch at China ways of doing things

IzzyCraft 01/22/2010 11:47 PM
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eh it's china fault every country does a bit of hacking espionage but china does a ways too much it's starting to tick people off.

doc70 01/22/2010 11:52 PM
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This is so typical of communist regimes, they lie in your face and call white as black while you look at it and see that it is white.
Did not expect any other answer from them...question is, will the US accept this and look the other way, as it has done repeatedly whenever China was involved, or will take a different stance this time? I am willing to bet on the first option.

logitic 01/22/2010 11:57 PM
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happi 01/23/2010 12:03 PM
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logitic :
There is an old saying I want to bring up here..."Don't bite the hand that feeds you!"We are so in dept to China Hilary needs to keep her ill informed trap shot!



China is so rich to lend out so much money, maybe use the money to better its citizen life style?

gorehound 01/23/2010 12:07 PM
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The only thing I dislike about China is it's Government.I do love the country,people,the foods,the films, etc.
We have a lot of Asians who live here in Portland, Maine.

Gulli 01/23/2010 12:09 PM
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"The U.S. has criticized China’s policies to administer the Internet and insinuated that China restricts Internet freedom," said spokesman Ma Zhaoxu, as translated by Wired. "This runs contrary to the facts..."

Right, I wonder how the Chinese dictionary explains the word "freedom"...
Mr. Zhaoxu knew he was lying, his superiors knew he was lying, the whole world knew he was lying, it's ridiculous how this regime embarrasses itself to stay in power.

haunted one 01/23/2010 12:18 PM
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If politicians were pinacchio's they could probably bridge the Pacific with their noses. LOL

aford10 01/23/2010 12:35 PM
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We should believe them, because China has always been forthcoming and truthful.

winner4455 01/23/2010 1:24 AM
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I hope US doesn't back down because of this.

d-block 01/23/2010 1:53 AM
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Get Bill Gates on the phone!

pakardbell486dx2 01/23/2010 1:58 AM
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Listen guys,
The US has done some rather shady stuff and as a US citizen i am not to proud about that. But Fortunately for us living in most western countries there is this thing called accountability. Govt should be held accountable for their actions on the people. The role of the govt is to serve the people and not the other way around. This something the people from the Chinese govt does not care about and rather views its own people as a commodity and expendable resource. No matter how much you try to put pressure on the Chinese govt they will not budge. Freedom of speech is a direct assault to their power. Every dictator and authoritative regime are absolutely scared shitless about this and will do and say anything to stop it. It's all right for other leaders of other countries to advocate freedoms but it is not right for them to force it on other nations. It's up to the Chinese people to decide if they want to keep their communist govt or not. Personally i would really like to see that oppressive govt kick the bucket, i just hope the next govt that comes in is not the same or worse as the one that precededs it. What ever decision the Chinese people make we should as members of the world, respect them for it.

DejaVuBoy 01/23/2010 2:33 AM
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The people working at Google are smarter than the ones working for the US government. If Google has a beef with China, they can make their own demands and decisions, because money talks, and politics have no place here.

I thought the US govt would stay out of this one.
Fine then. Stay. Out.

drowned 01/23/2010 2:58 AM
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"and insinuated that China restricts Internet freedom...this runs contrary to the facts"

Saying stuff like that only works on brainwashed commies, not Americans.

christop 01/23/2010 2:59 AM
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Gov sticking it nose in where it doesn't belong whats new?

wussupi83 01/23/2010 3:01 AM
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specialist 01/23/2010 3:04 AM
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As a R.P.C. resident living in Beijing, I can strongly feel the restriction on Internet by the gov interuption has been more and more obviously. What the gov's actions doesn't according to its announcements. But it may useless the controversy between US-China govs, I believe there is a great chasm between the two. Actually, the Constitution gives the power to our gov cannot be well controlled. And so the definition of freedom is very different with U.S. law. I once have a facebook account but now it cannot be log in unless I would live China. I don't know why someone has the authority to blocking YouTube, Twitter, etc., let alone you are a U.S. resident. Now, I am afraid about whether I can use my Gmail account tomorrow. I am afraid whether I can say on this website tomorrow. I don't know.

Oh, forgive my English.

jsc 01/23/2010 3:08 AM
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And right below this story in the News section is this:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/i [...] ,9493.html

razorblaze42 01/23/2010 3:15 AM
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Anonymous 01/23/2010 4:01 AM
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demonhorde665 :
Just because walmart and other retailers are handing buisness to china it doesn't mean they "fed" us. Quite the oposite actually , in the famous words of south park ... THEY TUK ER JUBS !



Seriously? you are aware that China holds the bulk of the Trillions of debt the Usa owes. Its not simply about jobs and goods it is about the inability of the Usa to support itself now and in the future.

Razorblaze42 it isn't simply porn that is being filtered, it's about filtering news; current event's; educational sites; religous sites; libraries and many others.. It is important for someone to take a stand and if the world's lobbiest infested goverments won't then I applaud a company for doing so..

this is a cultural and idealogical issue that must be addressed in tendem to managing the national debt.

twu 01/23/2010 4:28 AM
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d-block :
Get Bill Gates on the phone!



Bill Gate will say it again; If anyone wants to pirate software, please pirate Microsoft.

In another word, Bill Gate will say; please hack me more so my people can learn and my developer can do a better job to write un-hackable software.

abbadon_34 01/23/2010 4:37 AM
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can we believe anything that comes from Chairman Mao?

twu 01/23/2010 4:39 AM
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Google co-founders to sell $5.5B combined in stock.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Goog [...] et=&ccode=

It seems the co-founders know something and the stock holder don't.
Or they just cash in and leave others to die.

eddieroolz 01/23/2010 4:48 AM
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Every time a legitimate issue arises between US and China, China responds to accusations with "it's harmful to US-China relations". They skirt the real question every single time. It's starting to get irritating.

China, you won't be considered a real world power until you are held accountable to your actions.

Regulas 01/23/2010 5:51 AM
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doc70 :
This is so typical of communist regimes, they lie in your face and call white as black while you look at it and see that it is white.Did not expect any other answer from them...question is, will the US accept this and look the other way, as it has done repeatedly whenever China was involved, or will take a different stance this time? I am willing to bet on the first option.



Lie in your face, is that not what Obummer and all the leftist Marxist hacks in DC been doing the whole time? Open government my arse, closed door after closed door meetings. They are a bunch on Commie wannabe union thugs, nothing more. Thank you Massachusetts' voters for waking up.

omnimodis78 01/23/2010 6:18 AM
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IzzyCraft :
eh it's china fault every country does a bit of hacking espionage but china does a ways too much it's starting to tick people off.


By "china" do you mean the Chinese Central Government, or some Chinese university genius who grew tired of StarCraft and decided on some crafting of his own? I am certain the CIA does more hacking than all the security agencies put together, maybe with the exception of the FSB (Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation).

DalaiLamar 01/23/2010 6:38 AM
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Unfettered internet? My Hillary. Right here in America, you don't get that. How about telling the world 'no gun control'?

trevorvdw 01/23/2010 6:50 AM
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China also says lead paint promotes healthy bone growth in children.

MrJbot 01/23/2010 6:56 AM
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back in the 90s after a Chinese fighter hit a U.S observation plane the Chinese government retaliated and hacked the white house web page. The next day U.S hackers defaced over 2500 Chinese web sites. Its not the first time the Chinese have openly used cyber warfare, and not the last. Last time the hit a target that could fight back, but the U.S and google are in a sensitive spot and can not just fire back with there own hacking barrage without risk of loosing favor with the Chinese. China is very vulnerable to the same kind of attack and would suffer greatly if there internal networks were disrupted.

Here is my source
Hansen, B. (2002, April 12). Cyber-crime

pocketdrummer 01/23/2010 7:32 AM
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I agree that China needs to own up. Just because there's no bloodshed, that doesn't mean there wasn't an attack. I can already see this spiraling into a giant shitty war. YAAAY!

Maybe if people would stop sucking, the world could actually get on peacefully.


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