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China, now more than ever, wishes to become technology independent. Following the nation’s impressive show to the world at the summer Olympics in Beijing, China hopes to continue its rise.
Already producing its own automobiles, China is looking to the next industrial area for growth – technology. In particular, there is a specific reason that China is looking to make its own CPUs, and that’s because current U.S. laws prohibit the export of state-of-the-art microprocessors into certain nations. China is now looking to design its own chips so that it will not have to use generations-old hardware.
"Twenty years ago in China, we didn’t support R&D for microprocessors," said Zhiwei Xu, deputy director of the Chinese Academy of Sciences’ Institute of Computing Technology (ICT), according to Technology Review. "The decision makers and [Chinese] IT community have come to realize that CPUs [central processing units] are important."
The Chinese Academy of Sciences’ Institute of Computing Technology started design of China’s first general-purpose CPU in 2001, with the single-core chip named Godson-1 emerging the year after. The Godson-2 lived throughout 2003 to 2006, with each iteration faster than the last.
While the Godson chips are Chinese designed, they are actually manufactured by ST Microelectronics and can be bought under the commercial name of Loongson.
Like the rest of the CPU world, the next step is in multiple cores. Xu revealed during a presentation at last week’s Hot Chips conference in Palo Alto that the Godson-3 will contain four cores and is slated for completion sometime in 2009. An eight core version is also in the works, with the design currently planned for a 65nm process.
The Godson-3 is to be scalable, with more cores easily added without significant changes in design, and contain power-saving features.
Perhaps the biggest upgrade for the Godson-3 is the 200 addition instructions that will allow the Chinese chip to run x86 code. The upcoming chip hopes to dodge any license fees for Intel, as the Godson-3 will only simulate the x86 architecture.
Because of this setup, Intel patent attorney Erik Metzger believes that the Godsend-3 will only perform at 80 percent of the speed of a native x86 chip. Understandably, Intel is keeping a close eye on its x86 patents and the work of the ICT.
Source : Tom's Hardware
Cool!!! GO CHINA!!! competition!!! u no like this INtel?? hehe
No doubt copied off intel and AMD's designs, just like they copy our software for free and use it like shareware.
THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING. We have a huge market in china for selling american company product and we have it locked out?!?!?! Here's an idea, open up the market and put intel, amd, and via (who forgot about via? ) and let us get some of the money back that we are barrowing from china to stay afloat as a country. btw, typing in the box in chrome is messed up. cant go back and edit very easily, refresh isn't working correctly.
in the last paragraph, you wrote "believes that the Godsend-3 " I believe that is a different movie. Greetings from Mexico
We will see
Yes, why on earth aren't we exporting technology to China? For cryin' out loud, we're wasting enough of our money on cheap Chinese junk, supporting their booming economy, while our economy is tanking. Let them buy decent technology from us so they can use it to make stuff that's actually worth buying. Just think, if AMD could get into that market ahead of Intel, they might actually be able to make a fast turnaround in sales volume, which would make for a more even playing field in the processor wars. The healthier the competition, the better off everybody is.
I really don't care they will only run a 1 ghz per core, also this is no competition for AMD and Intel because they are at least 5 years behind in architecture complexity which can shoot out better n better performance.
im down for some chinese competition. Hell at the rate they're developing, they will be hot on Intel's heels forcing em to cook up some great processors.
Go Intel!..and AMD, just not...China.
"Already producing its own automobiles"
Have any of you guys actually seen what Chinese automobiles look like? The quality is horrendous, they come from the factory with visible defects on the body, LOL. I thought people were just talking shit about China until I saw pictures of it. In the likely event that they rip-off either AMD or Intel designs, the CPUs could be decent.
i do support competition, but not this... this would plunge the value of the dollar, and we are so far in debt as it is... we owe TRILLIONS to china, this will just make everything worse... U.S. as the strongest world power will soon be just history
intel and amd should start shipping their chips before they decide to boycott them... i forgot the exact terminology of this method, but it's to allow domestic companies to grow so that major companies don't stomp it down in it's infancy
A lot of anti-China feelings here...
I hope their processor develop as fast as their economy in general. More competition means cheaper prices for all of us.
It'll interesting to see when they begin to sell chips to America once they surpass AMD/Intel without the country setting any restrictions. American government is really the only one that shoots itself in the foot like this. Countries like Japan and Germany have been willingly exporting their technology at a profit for years.
i do support competition, but not this... this would plunge the value of the dollar, and we are so far in debt as it is... we owe TRILLIONS to china, this will just make everything worse... U.S. as the strongest world power will soon be just historyintel and amd should start shipping their chips before they decide to boycott them... i forgot the exact terminology of this method, but it's to allow domestic companies to grow so that major companies don't stomp it down in it's infancy
Unlikely. It's the American government we're talking about here. You think Intel and AMD like not being able to make a profit? They've been lobbying for years, and been shot down "in the interest of national security."
There is a reason that chinese products are usually regarded as some of the lowest quality things in any market.
I dont care how big Intel is, theyre peanuts compared to this. Not so sure if this is good. Remember, this isnt a company, this is a nation, with much more money and influence thatn lil ol Intel. I dont like it, and maybe thats why the US doesnt allow free and open trade like this, because this really isnt a company
lots of racism in here.. WOW..! competition can only make things better for us...
cheaper processor price, better processor...
lets all be patient!
with all the money they can spend... Go china...help make things affordable for us asians..
Why the hell would they not be exported to? To be honest, I would start my own development too if I had to use stuff that old.
China to fail miserably.
I don't trust alarm clocks that are made in china would why I put one of their bound to be half-assed chips in my computer?
wow racism... i thought you CAPITALISTS honor competition... you do know that for capitalism to work you need competition right....
thats right china's capitalistic.. look that up....
I jokingly posted this in the forums back on 1/3/08.......
"Once China gets its tech industry on a role all our chips will be made in China. That means lead in your CPU again."
I'd like to see how well there chips will perform against Intel and AMD, before i judge China on anything to do with this. By all means competition is always a good thing, helps lower prices, and if china pulls this off, we just might see prices fall even faster XD.. YES!!!!!
yay, cant wait till every part of my computer is made in china...then i can game crysis at 2560 x 1600 @ 120 fps for only $500.
You see this business relationship is very simple, China is willing to buy but the US is not willing to sell.
You lot just imagine this, even if China cannot sell this cheap overseas, they still have a monstrous market at home to sell it with the government and people endorsement, they will have the whole market to themselves, Intel and AMD will lose out a huge share of the pie, and it is China we are talking about, a huge country. It is the US's fault here, we are basically shunning the customer, so they are forced to develop their own or buy from other countries.
And J-D, about Chinese automobiles, one needs to keep in mind that the Chinese automobile sector only started to rise about 4 years ago and guess what their own national brand already kicked Ford in the ass in their own home market, so far the only two American brands that are dominating in Chinese market is GM and Buicks. But I don't know how long GM and Buicks will stay on the top in China, every domestic sectors in China are rising so fast, their young home brands with government endorsement is making a killing in their own market but also at some overseas market.
You see this is a loss situation for the US, the US does not want to export to China, China can just develop their own things, but America on the other hand loses a very very large market. I don't know what the hell the American politicians are thinking.
You see this business relationship is very simple, China is willing to buy but the US is not willing to sell. You lot just imagine this, even if China cannot sell this chip overseas, they still have a monstrous market at home to sell it with the government and people endorsement, they will have the whole market to themselves, Intel and AMD will lose out a huge share of the pie, and it is China we are talking about, a huge country. It is the US's fault here, we are basically shunning the customer, so they are forced to develop their own or buy from other countries. And J-D, about Chinese automobiles, one needs to keep in mind that the Chinese automobile sector only started to rise about 4 years ago and guess what their own national brand already kicked Ford in the ass in their own home market, so far the only two American brands that are dominating in Chinese market is GM and Buicks. But I don't know how long GM and Buicks will stay on the top in China, every domestic sectors in China are rising so fast, their young home brands with government endorsement is making a killing in their own market but also at some overseas market.You see this is a loss situation for the US, the US does not want to export to China, China can just develop their own things, but America on the other hand loses a very very large market. I don't know what the hell the American politicians are thinking.
China really has nothing to lose here , it is the US that will lose out if the export restriction is still in place.
I think Intel should go to the US government, smash China in this endevor. Trillions of dollars invested instead of billions, and put China away. Now thats not racist, nor is it capitalist, but thats what were saying here.Its not as if China were Intel. Get it? This is more of a political scenario than a capitalist one. Like what was said, "Intel is keeping a close eye". There you go. China in no way is compelled to obey by business laws. Why not sell to China? Learn a few things, find out how this all plays first. This could kill Intel. Youd like that? AMD would be history long before that. Theres reasons why the government does what it does. Its not merely exchanging money, but, as they say, more about doing business, which China has no restraints, nor true responsibilty in a fair, true market
"I don't know what the hell the American politicians are thinking." Maybe a war 20 years from now would make US companies profit more than just sell some silicon to them. Why dont keep an treat on horizon of US citizens to justify trilions of dollars spent on "national defense"?
Reading all this comments make me feel like american are afraid of china
Now thats racist
It's Nationalism as in China and US are both nations. Racism is saying a derogatory remark about the people living in Asia or far east. Don't be so ready to say "racism" without knowing what it really means. Shame on you.