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China Expects to Compete with Intel, in 20 Years

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China, which recently ascended to the top of the world's supercomputer powers, said that, by the end of this year, it will not be using foreign processors for its future supercomputers anymore.

Instead, the country intends to rely on its own Loongson series of processing cores.

The upcoming Dawning 6000 supercomputer is expected to use 10,000 of these chips to achieve an estimated 1 Petaflop of processing performance. While it is a national priority to use its own processors, scientists admitted that it is difficult at this time to exploit the full potential of the chips as there aren't programmers who can squeeze every bit of horsepower out of them.

China's Tianhe-1A supercomputer, currently the world's fastest supercomputer, uses a total of 186,368 cores and achieves a peak performance of 4.7 PFlops. The systems uses Intel Xeon X5670 CPUs as well as Nvidia Tesla GPUs.  

China expects that it will take at least 10 years until the chips will be able to supply the domestic market. In 20 years, China wants to compete with companies such as Intel here in the U.S.      

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    Anonymous , March 14, 2011 11:10 PM
    I'd suspect that these computers utilizing Chinese-made cpus will probably fail constantly. :) 
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    atminside , March 14, 2011 11:14 PM
    cool, that means intel prices will drop
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    pelov , March 14, 2011 11:20 PM
    aaron11I'd suspect that these computers utilizing Chinese-made cpus will probably fail constantly.


    The plastic that it's made from will fall apart and crumble.
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    someguynamedmatt , March 14, 2011 11:21 PM
    ...yeah. Good luck with your junk, China.
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    Anonymous , March 14, 2011 11:48 PM
    20 years is like a century in tech terms, when china says they going be competitive is that with current chips or future chips
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    duk3 , March 14, 2011 11:49 PM
    I wonder if they will encourage their own citizens to create CPUs in their backyards. It worked out for smelting steel, right? Oh wait I guess not...
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    sonofliberty08 , March 14, 2011 11:51 PM
    haha ...... maybe they can just buy out the foreign processor company , then it is not using foreign processor anymore :p 
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    11796pcs , March 15, 2011 12:05 AM
    Hmm, look what AMD was producing in 1991 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am386
    I think this is a legitimate threat though. All China has to do is reverse-engineer all of the processors on the market and they're in business. What I believe China will do is undercut Intel and AMD by making extremely cheap low-performance processors that will ruin Intel and AMD's foothold in the normal non-entusiast market (ex. my parents who don't know anything about computers and would just buy the cheapest thing out there). This can only mean bad because as China starts pulling the rug out from underneath Intel and AMD they will pull their focus away from high-end processors and try to battle China (a battle they will inevitably lose because 1. They aren't countries and 2. They won't be able to sell products as cheap). The next 20 years will be a very interesting time in history in which I will be looking at through my fingers.
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    alidan , March 15, 2011 12:10 AM
    here is the better question. why?

    its probably going to cost close to 50billion to 100billion over the next 10 years to make a competitive (the same way amd is competitive to intel, they are close, and may be better in some areas but not over taking them) processor, and even than probably another 10 years and minimum 25billion to match intel, and probably even more time and money to over take them, ASSUMING they can buy the title of number 1 processor.

    i see little point in doing this, other than to p@## away money.
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    liveonc , March 15, 2011 12:12 AM
    Please Appreciate 1 billion Chinese buying these things (because they're forced to) & "think" about it...
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    omnimodis78 , March 15, 2011 12:14 AM
    someguynamedmatt...yeah. Good luck with your junk, China.

    You know you're talking nonsense - not to mention, if the Americans are so great at everything, then you have nothing to worry about. Sadly, what exactly are the Americans superior in? Please let me know. Oh right, computer stuff right? Hmm...I guess Taiwan (Republic of China), isn't relevant in that field, right? Dude, everything in your computer IS from China!!!
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    andy5174 , March 15, 2011 12:29 AM
    omnimodis78You know you're talking nonsense - not to mention, if the Americans are so great at everything, then you have nothing to worry about. Sadly, what exactly are the Americans superior in? Please let me know. Oh right, computer stuff right? Hmm...I guess Taiwan (Republic of China), isn't relevant in that field, right? Dude, everything in your computer IS from China!!!

    Republic of China (Taiwan) is NOT the China referred to here. I am sure you know this very well!
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    znegval , March 15, 2011 12:35 AM
    atminsidecool, that means intel prices will drop

    I find it easier to belive that Intel will be completely unable to compete with the chinese product because the chinese ones are probably gonna be priced lower than Intel can handle. China is an export juggernaut for a reason you know.
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    dogman_1234 , March 15, 2011 1:02 AM
    Bitch no...!

    China will destroy the USA and anyone in their way.
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    elusion11 , March 15, 2011 1:02 AM
    andy5174Republic of China (Taiwan) is NOT the China referred to here. I am sure you know this very well!


    I am an ethnic Chinese brought up in the west, and I've lived both in China and the west. I want to make a clarification here, while the average Chinese product is of lower quality than their western counterpart, however, that does not mean exclude China from producing high-end equipment/electronics. Just for a fact, China was the third country to send man into space, the 2nd country to invent their own stealth fighter technology, etc, and one of the few countries that did not experience an economic crisis during the past few years – businesses are booming in China as we speak, - I doubt you have any clue of what I’m talking about because you are blinded by your American patriotism, and that might possibly be your ultimate downfall. And if you think everything in China is worth 50 cents and comes out of sweat shops, then you are very wrong. I've been working in China for couple of years and I can say that I make way more money, and way more productive here than I would ever be in the west, not everyone here is in slave labor. 20 years is still a long time, and they have nearly unlimited resource at hand, we should wait and see what China can come up with.
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    beayn , March 15, 2011 1:04 AM
    So in 20 years, Intel will pull an IBM and retreat to the enterprise only sector because they can't compete with the el-cheapo CPUs that everyone will be buying up to support foreign economies instead of their own.

    Even China knows this and is going to start using their own processors instead of supporting an external economy... It's too bad America doesn't realize how stupid it is.
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    bondnumber , March 15, 2011 1:43 AM
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    the 2nd country to invent their own stealth fighter technology


    Just so you know there is a small difference between copy and invent.
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    falchard , March 15, 2011 1:57 AM
    I think China can pull it off considering the produce so many in the technology sector who end up imigrating to the US. All they have to do is make sure US companies don't hire and further educate their graduates.
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    christop , March 15, 2011 1:59 AM
    who knows whats going to happen in 20 years. Maybe we will have socket implants and we will plug chips into ourselves. O you have socket 2033 you are so outdated.
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    jimmysmitty , March 15, 2011 2:01 AM
    pelovThe plastic that it's made from will fall apart and crumble.


    It will have lead built into them poisoning the computer.
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