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OEMs Could Be Including Cheap DVD Playback For Win 8 PCs

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PC vendors who are concerned that the lack of DVD playback ability in Windows 8 could hurt their sales have a new opportunity to custom configure their PCs with such a feature.

AMD recently mentioned a blog post of James DePloy, founder of commercial app distribution platform AppAttach, which enables PC makers to access discounted OEM deals of apps with "reduced" volume commitments.

It appears that the lack of DVD playback support may have spurred some interest from DVD playback software makers to cater to PC makers. DePloy noted that CyberLink's PowerDVD 12 is available to OEM's as a "quality, cost-effective DVD playback solution at an affordable price." He did not reveal how much CyberLink charges for PowerDVD 12 via AppAttach. The retail version of PowerDVD 12 is currently offered by CyberLink for $40.

Microsoft removed DVD playback capability in Windows Media Player to save codec licensing fees that were required in previous Windows versions. For every Windows 7 version sold, Microsoft paid $2 to the MPEG-LA.

Windows 8 users, however, can easily add this playback capability by installing the Windows 8 Media Center Pack, which is offered by Microsoft free of charge until January 31, 2013. After that date, consumers could opt to play DVDs via software such as the non-profit open source media player VLC.


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    velocityg4 , January 8, 2013 3:06 AM
    Why don't OEMs just include quality free open source software or freeware? Like HP could include VLC, Thunderbird, LibreOffice, Firefox/Chrome, Picasa and Gimp. Covering most consumer uses for computers.
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    SchizoFrog , January 8, 2013 3:31 AM
    It is quite funny how Microsoft is advertising Win8 as an all round home PC media centre and then withholds basic DVD playback. Not only should DVD playback be included as standard, but so should basic Blu-Ray playback.
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    thecolorblue , January 8, 2013 3:08 AM
    velocityg4Why don't OEMs just include quality free open source software or freeware? Like HP could include VLC, Thunderbird, LibreOffice, Firefox/Chrome, Picasa and Gimp. Covering most consumer uses for computers.

    ask microsoft... it's no accident that those programs are not included by OEMs
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    velocityg4 , January 8, 2013 3:06 AM
    Why don't OEMs just include quality free open source software or freeware? Like HP could include VLC, Thunderbird, LibreOffice, Firefox/Chrome, Picasa and Gimp. Covering most consumer uses for computers.
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    thecolorblue , January 8, 2013 3:08 AM
    velocityg4Why don't OEMs just include quality free open source software or freeware? Like HP could include VLC, Thunderbird, LibreOffice, Firefox/Chrome, Picasa and Gimp. Covering most consumer uses for computers.

    ask microsoft... it's no accident that those programs are not included by OEMs
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    SteelCity1981 , January 8, 2013 3:15 AM
    i have powerdvd 12 yeah i paid 40 bucks for it but it was worth every dollar and i tend on having it as my main playback for a very long time.
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    SchizoFrog , January 8, 2013 3:31 AM
    It is quite funny how Microsoft is advertising Win8 as an all round home PC media centre and then withholds basic DVD playback. Not only should DVD playback be included as standard, but so should basic Blu-Ray playback.
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    jerm1027 , January 8, 2013 3:40 AM
    velocityg4Why don't OEMs just include quality free open source software or freeware? Like HP could include VLC, Thunderbird, LibreOffice, Firefox/Chrome, Picasa and Gimp. Covering most consumer uses for computers.

    I say why don't OEMs do people one better, and just install Ubuntu or other Linux distribution? Most of that software is pre installed, and there aren't any licensing fees for any of it.
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    Anonymous , January 8, 2013 3:44 AM
    "ask microsoft... it's no accident that those programs are not included by OEMs"

    Average computer users are stupid. They don't know how to use Firefox or Chrome instead of IE. I assume that the majority of us have a side gig... And personally, I've encountered MANY people that can't figure out how to bookmark a page outside of IE.

    If HP began using VLC as their default media player, how many people would run away to Sony or Lenovo because they know how to use "their" software?
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    bustapr , January 8, 2013 4:19 AM
    ID10T@mailinatorcom"ask microsoft... it's no accident that those programs are not included by OEMs"Average computer users are stupid. They don't know how to use Firefox or Chrome instead of IE. I assume that the majority of us have a side gig... And personally, I've encountered MANY people that can't figure out how to bookmark a page outside of IE.If HP began using VLC as their default media player, how many people would run away to Sony or Lenovo because they know how to use "their" software?

    Please dont call the majority of people stupid just because they're not pc savy.

    this article is about OEMs considering intalling some DVD playback software in their PCs to help boost sales. Win8 remoed this feature, so no OEM win8 pc will be able to play DVDs with media player without the media center pack or some 3rd party software. If an OEM decides to conveniently include a playback software like VLC, people are very likely to not run away cowering in fear of the convenience.
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    zybch , January 8, 2013 4:46 AM
    Or people with Win8 Pro or higher could just grab the FREE Media Centre add on from MS till the end of this month. Then its $9.99.
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    zybch , January 8, 2013 4:47 AM
    velocityg4Why don't OEMs just include quality free open source software or freeware? Like HP could include VLC, Thunderbird, LibreOffice, Firefox/Chrome, Picasa and Gimp. Covering most consumer uses for computers.

    Coz most free software, including some of those you mentioned, are utter crap! Thats why.
    Not as crap as the crapware they DO include on OEM PCs though.
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    firemachine69 , January 8, 2013 5:03 AM
    ....Orrrrr.... People could just keep sticking to Win 7....
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    gravewax , January 8, 2013 6:14 AM
    SchizoFrogIt is quite funny how Microsoft is advertising Win8 as an all round home PC media centre and then withholds basic DVD playback. Not only should DVD playback be included as standard, but so should basic Blu-Ray playback.

    why? including them just increases licensing costs, the vast majority of machines are not used to play DVD's or blu-rays so all that happens is those licensing bodies get a large undeserved income, far better off paying less when you don't need the codecs and then buying playback software if and when you actually need it.
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    tpi2007 , January 8, 2013 8:23 AM
    velocityg4Why don't OEMs just include quality free open source software or freeware? Like HP could include VLC, Thunderbird, LibreOffice, Firefox/Chrome, Picasa and Gimp. Covering most consumer uses for computers.


    As far as I know VLC can't come pre-installed with Windows for the simple reason that the MPEG-2 decoder required to playback DVDs can't be distributed legally without paying royalties (like the ones Microsoft has to pay) to the MPEG-LA in several countries. However, since it's not illegal in all countries around the world, it's the consumer that has to download the software from videolan instead depending on if the country he is in allows it or not.

    It's also because of this (or at least was , I haven't installed Linux in a while) that some Linux distributions that come with VLC pre-installed don't come with certain codecs and you have to add them manually.

    It's because of this sort of loophole that VLC is so popular and why Microsoft can get away with not supplying the MPEG-2 codec with Windows, because people think that VLC is a perfectly legal option and therefore think it's not a big deal that Microsoft is not supplying it anymore by default.
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    abbadon_34 , January 8, 2013 9:37 AM
    Win8 doesn't play DVD's out-of-the-box? Wow, the more I know the more I H8
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    godfather666 , January 8, 2013 12:14 PM
    Quote:
    ask microsoft... it's no accident that those programs are not included by OEMs

    I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with Microsoft.

    OEMs can't include software like VLC because the codec license holders (such as MPEG-LA) will sue them for royalties.

    The reason they don't sue VLC is because VLC makers/owners have no money and are not selling the software for a profit.

    MPEG-LA will milk the fat cats, but won't or can't do anything about the non-profit little guys.

    Actually, if you go the VLC website, it'll say that you as the user are responsible for contacting MPEG-LA in order to pay the licensing fees if you use VLC (of course nobody does that).
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    lradunovic77 , January 8, 2013 12:17 PM
    Why you people bother with Windows 8?
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    TeraMedia , January 8, 2013 1:06 PM
    Yay. We're right back where we were with Windows XP, when computers came with WinDVD, PowerDVD or some other crap installed. And more often than not, it was the "basic" or "starter" version that wouldn't even stream AC3 or DTS.

    I thought MSFT forced the use of its own codecs in Win 7 MC because they got tired of the crap that other vendors were shipping marring the use of a PC as an entertainment system.

    And why is this spell checker so useless? It drops about 1/4 of the characters I type.
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    kellybean , January 8, 2013 1:13 PM
    I can't believe MS is so cheap. OS X and even Linux has that feature right in the basic OS.
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    ojas , January 8, 2013 1:49 PM
    gravewaxwhy? including them just increases licensing costs, the vast majority of machines are not used to play DVD's or blu-rays so all that happens is those licensing bodies get a large undeserved income, far better off paying less when you don't need the codecs and then buying playback software if and when you actually need it.

    I'll accept the Blu-Ray angle, but not the DVD one. The world isn't the US, where people can stream stuff from a dedicated streaming service.
    Most of the people i know do or have played DVDs on their computers, so i don't know where those vast machines of your came from.
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    ddpruitt , January 8, 2013 2:06 PM
    godfather666I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with Microsoft.OEMs can't include software like VLC because the codec license holders (such as MPEG-LA) will sue them for royalties.The reason they don't sue VLC is because VLC makers/owners have no money and are not selling the software for a profit.MPEG-LA will milk the fat cats, but won't or can't do anything about the non-profit little guys.Actually, if you go the VLC website, it'll say that you as the user are responsible for contacting MPEG-LA in order to pay the licensing fees if you use VLC (of course nobody does that).


    Actually this is only partially correct. The MPEG licenses are free for individual non-profit use. However the moment you begin selling on a commercial level you're required to pay licensing fees. To give a general idea of why Microsoft doesn't want to this consider the following example: There is no hardware difference between a cheap Chinese knockoff DVD/Blu-Ray player and a name brand one. The only difference is the licensing fees they have to pay. They have to license the file format, multiple video decoders, multiple audio decoders, etc. Imagine having to pay an extra $20-$30 dollars for your OS just to play DVD's or Blu-Ray. You have to admit Microsoft is actually going in the right direction with this.
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    bigpinkdragon286 , January 8, 2013 2:16 PM
    How many of you actually used the native DVD capabilities of Vista or 7? Being unsatisfied with the DVD playback, and complete lack of both native HD DVD and Blu-ray playback, I have used alternatives for years. Upgrading from XP, which has a lack of native support, I already owned decent playback software, which was fully eligible for upgrading. How many people are running out to purchase Windows 8 machines to replace their set top boxes?
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