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Frustrated Facebook Founder Calls Obama About NSA Spying

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Mark Zuckerberg speaks out against the NSA.

Mark Zuckerberg isn't happy, and for good reason.

Documents leaked by Edward Snowden on Wednesday claim that the NSA has erected fake Facebook servers in order to conduct surveillance on millions of computers. When a watched individual sits down at his/her PC and attempts to load up Facebook, the individual is redirected to a fake NSA server. While downloading the page, the user also downloads a virus that siphons information from his/her computer.

"When our engineers work tirelessly to improve security, we imagine we're protecting you against criminals, not our own government," Zuckerberg says in an open letter to Facebook users. "The US government should be the champion for the internet, not a threat."

Zuckerberg said that he called President Barack Obama to express his frustrations over the damage the government is creating for everyone. Zuckerberg didn't go into any details about the call, only saying that it seems as though true full reform will take a very long time to achieve.

A Facebook representative told The Wall Street Journal that the social network hasn't seen any evidence that the NSA is re-directing Facebook users to fake servers. In fact, the method described in the leak will not work given that Facebook began using a higher level of security last year.

"To keep the internet strong, we need to keep it secure," Zuckerberg writes. "That's why at Facebook we spend a lot of our energy making our services and the whole internet safer and more secure. We encrypt communications, we use secure protocols for traffic, we encourage people to use multiple factors for authentication and we go out of our way to help fix issues we find in other people's services."

He says that the government needs to be more transparent about what they're doing, or otherwise everyone will assume the worst.

"It's up to us -- all of us -- to build the internet we want," Zuckerberg writes. "Together, we can build a space that is greater and a more important part of the world than anything we have today, but is also safe and secure."

"I'm committed to seeing this happen, and you can count on Facebook to do our part," he concludes.

In a follow-up statement received by the Wall Street Journal, the NSA says it monitors communications "exclusively where there is a foreign intelligence or counterintelligence purpose." The firm also says that "all of NSA's operations are strictly conducted under the rule of law."

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    southernshark , March 13, 2014 6:37 PM
    Zuckerman just needs to hit them where it hurts and spend 1 billion running adds against all sitting politicians who continue to support funding for the NSA. Then put a banner on everyone's FB page reminding them who to vote against in their home state.
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    K2N hater , March 13, 2014 5:52 PM
    We can always say facebook users are used to privacy breaches, right? Now tell us what NSA does to akamai and all the DNS services around the globe.
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    southernshark , March 13, 2014 6:37 PM
    Zuckerman just needs to hit them where it hurts and spend 1 billion running adds against all sitting politicians who continue to support funding for the NSA. Then put a banner on everyone's FB page reminding them who to vote against in their home state.
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    brandonjclark , March 13, 2014 7:02 PM
    Zuckerberg wins actor of the year. What a fake. He's no doubt helping. In these times enemies will fake friendship.
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    longshotthe1st , March 13, 2014 9:33 PM
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    I wish you guys could all figure this out for yourself. All of this makes sense when you do. I'm not going to discuss it with you because i support the the cause and method that is in play here and if you understood you would too. A government willing to take blame and be discredited in order to protect the people in a way that they will never know is a noble purpose. You just have to know that every name in this article is absolutely working for the same plan even if some may not appear to be.
    You mean like how the NSA protected us from 9/11, Ft. Hood, or Boston Marathon Bombing? Name 1 attack that the NSA prevented since you have it all figured out.
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    g-unit1111 , March 13, 2014 10:29 PM
    Off topic political and personal attacks removed. Keep this thread civil or multiple moderators will be watching.
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    ttcboy , March 13, 2014 10:53 PM
    He just fed up that government is bypassing him and collect the infos instead of buying from him. That's all there to it.
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    milktea , March 13, 2014 10:56 PM
    Mark Zuckerberg must be dreaming. The Government will always have control. Anything that prevents control from the Gov will deem illegal.
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    cypeq , March 14, 2014 1:40 AM
    Zuckerberg is the only one who has right to spy on everyone! I understand him perfectly.
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    cats_Paw , March 14, 2014 2:17 AM
    This is more marketing than anything else.We all know nothing will change, since noone will change.
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    DrBackwater , March 14, 2014 5:34 AM
    Face books a double edged sword.Who uploads them selves after a robbery, or even a prison break.
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    abimocorde , March 14, 2014 5:39 AM
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    We can always say facebook users are used to privacy breaches, right? Now tell us what NSA does to akamai and all the DNS services around the globe.
    akamai being from Israel, pretty sure you can figure it out easy. :p 
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    kawininjazx , March 14, 2014 6:04 AM
    This is all a farce, Zuckerberg loves Obama, he is waiting for him to grant amnesty and allow everyone into the country so he can pay his employees half as much.
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    Master467 , March 14, 2014 6:25 AM
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    Zuckerman just needs to hit them where it hurts and spend 1 billion running adds against all sitting politicians who continue to support funding for the NSA. Then put a banner on everyone's FB page reminding them who to vote against in their home state.


    Yeah, if he was serious this is what he would do...
    But hes not. Its probably a farce, but at least its spreading the word....
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    waikano , March 14, 2014 7:15 AM
    "The firm also says that "all of NSA's operations are strictly conducted under the rule of law.""

    I have a bridge to sell anyone interested?
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    RCguitarist , March 14, 2014 8:25 AM
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    I wish you guys could all figure this out for yourself. All of this makes sense when you do. I'm not going to discuss it with you because i support the the cause and method that is in play here and if you understood you would too. A government willing to take blame and be discredited in order to protect the people in a way that they will never know is a noble purpose. You just have to know that every name in this article is absolutely working for the same plan even if some may not appear to be.
    You mean like how the NSA protected us from 9/11, Ft. Hood, or Boston Marathon Bombing? Name 1 attack that the NSA prevented since you have it all figured out.


    Attacks will always happen, you can't stop everything. The reason you can't think of attacks that the NSA prevented is because they didn't happen. And the fact that the NSA is making it impossible for the bad guys to use modern technology to communicate, slows them down immensely. Can you imagine how many attacks there would be if terrorists could simply talk and plan attacks using Facebook PMs? It would be too easy. But if you make them resort to couriers and in-person meetings, well then that slows things down a lot. It's not about stopping ever one, it's about reducing the amount and making it very hard to pull off. You are not going to see any news stories about that. And that is the way the NSA likes it.
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    g-unit1111 , March 14, 2014 11:30 AM
    REMEMBER: THIS IS NOT A WEBSITE FOR POLITICAL DEBATE. There are plenty of other forums on the internet for that purpose.

    If you want to talk politics we have a sub forum just for that purpose: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum-65.html
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    Christopher Shaffer , March 14, 2014 11:54 AM
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    REMEMBER: THIS IS NOT A WEBSITE FOR POLITICAL DEBATE. There are plenty of other forums on the internet for that purpose.If you want to talk politics we have a sub forum just for that purpose: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum-65.html
    I'm not sure how you differentiate comments about a politically motivated article from those about political debate, but discussing this article is inevitably going to bring up concerns around how the NSA handles things which is a political subject. I don't think it's right to condemn opinions surrounding this as debate.
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    g-unit1111 , March 14, 2014 12:06 PM
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    REMEMBER: THIS IS NOT A WEBSITE FOR POLITICAL DEBATE. There are plenty of other forums on the internet for that purpose.If you want to talk politics we have a sub forum just for that purpose: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum-65.html
    I'm not sure how you differentiate comments about a politically motivated article from those about political debate, but discussing this article is inevitably going to bring up concerns around how the NSA handles things which is a political subject. I don't think it's right to condemn opinions surrounding this as debate.


    Yeah it's definitely a tricky subject but these kinds of threads always devolve into personal attacks and infighting. I have been around the internet way too long and this type of discussion never ends well. What may start out as a harmless debate usually provokes lots and lots of personal attacks and infighting between users - and this isn't the forum for that, so we moderators usually try to stop it before it starts.
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    stingstang , March 14, 2014 7:55 PM
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    I wish you guys could all figure this out for yourself. All of this makes sense when you do. I'm not going to discuss it with you because i support the the cause and method that is in play here and if you understood you would too. A government willing to take blame and be discredited in order to protect the people in a way that they will never know is a noble purpose. You just have to know that every name in this article is absolutely working for the same plan even if some may not appear to be.
    You mean like how the NSA protected us from 9/11, Ft. Hood, or Boston Marathon Bombing? Name 1 attack that the NSA prevented since you have it all figured out.
    Attacks will always happen, you can't stop everything. The reason you can't think of attacks that the NSA prevented is because they didn't happen. And the fact that the NSA is making it impossible for the bad guys to use modern technology to communicate, slows them down immensely. Can you imagine how many attacks there would be if terrorists could simply talk and plan attacks using Facebook PMs? It would be too easy. But if you make them resort to couriers and in-person meetings, well then that slows things down a lot. It's not about stopping ever one, it's about reducing the amount and making it very hard to pull off. You are not going to see any news stories about that. And that is the way the NSA likes it.
    You'd better be careful, using logic around here. People here don't like that.
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