Nvidia's Future GPUs Will Be Kepler, Then Maxwell
These are the next baby names for GPUs.
Right now, the Fermi technology is the best that Nvidia is shipping. You can expect to see an ever-growing family of Fermi-based GPUs to be joining the latest GTX 480, GTS 460 and 450 models.
What's beyond Fermi? Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang today revealed that it'll be "Kepler".
Kepler will be hitting production later this year, with the first GPU products based on it to be going on sale in 2011. Kepler will be made off the 28nm process, and will be focused far more heavily on performance per watt than Fermi is.
Nvidia estimates that Kepler will be three to four times the performance per watt over Fermi, giving us a ballpark of five gigaflops of per watt.
And after Kepler, reaching into 2013, will be "Maxwell", which should bring 16 times the performance in parallel graphics-based computing, as well as the ability to work independent of a CPU. Performance per watt will triple over the previous generation, hopefully hitting 15 gigaflops per watt.
(Sources: Nvidia Blog, Engadget)
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Performance/watt improvements sure... but what about price/performance?
That's what i'm more interested in.
Even though Nvidia's behind at the moment, at least they know what they're doing.
Performance/watt improvements sure... but what about price/performance? That's what i'm more interested in.
price/performance? So you can save $100 & wind up paying $100 a month in electricity on that super gaming rig? What will laptop owners say when their laptop on has 30 minutes of battery life even though it uses a 12 Cell battery?
28nm process, three to four times the performance per watt over Fermi..
sounds good to me
looks good
wait until further delays
Even though Nvidia's behind at the moment, at least they know what they're doing.
They know how to do nice powerpoint presentations.
This isnt all that impressive for a die shrink. Also even less so considering they had to show it in watts/performance to make fermi look worse, and in relation the others look better. Fermi in 2009...well...
no more oven's please
I remember reading back in 2008, I think, that nVIDIA was going to start using MIMD for their GPUs, what happened to that plan? As they said, it would bring their GPUs to the next level and leave ATi in the dust until ATi would come out with GPUs based on MIMD.
You know what to expect when you hear "performance per watt" from any tech company. I am having an AMD flashback.
bah these roadmaps they get leaked is like..so uninformative...i wish they would give some kind of actual specs. Im not sure anyone cares that much for just the codenames...
Nice to see some recognition of famous physicists in other areas that I care about.
Maxwell is likely going to be helped by a Department of Defense R&D contract that nVIDIA has been awarded as seen here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other [...] uters.html
Keynesian Economics showcasing its superiority in terms of driving technological advancements once more. Keynesian tends to create revolutions while Mises and Friedman Economics (libertarian/laissez-faire) tends to bring evolutions.
Either way... very interesting.
Before anyone goes on a tangent about the evil's of Keynesian Economics... I am in no way endorsing Keynesian Economics.. simply pointing to one of the benefits.
The Internet, LCD, Satellite, Cell Phone etc tech all owes its start to Keynesian Economics (nearly any technological advancement really).
They may not have the exact specs, besides for marketing purposes you release a little at a time until it gets closer to the time of launch...
And now I know when to make my next PC!
I always wonder how close they are to having valid testing hardware when they do these presentations. I really want to know if they are just making educated guesses or if they actually have something working in the lab that shows similar info as they display in the powerpoint.
If not, I could make outlandish claims as well about future offerings.
It is impressive. And as an ATI fan I do not say that lightly. But comments about price/performance are appropriate. NVidia seems to think the price/performance baseline was the 8800. Everything faster than that got more expensive even though one high end processor costs about as much to make as any other high end processor. I mean we can all appreciate performance, but only until it becomes affordable only to the type of people who drive around in Ferraris.
you know the way i read this.
fermi uses a crap ton of power,
kepler will use less and provide more,
maxwell will use even less and provide even more,
im thinking that kepler will give ati a run for its money with watt to power,
and maxwell will do the exact same, but is a few years ahead of the game and they are exterminating mores law improving the cards 2.5X
I remember reading back in 2008, I think, that nVIDIA was going to start using MIMD for their GPUs, what happened to that plan? As they said, it would bring their GPUs to the next level and leave ATi in the dust until ATi would come out with GPUs based on MIMD.
now i may be wrong, but isn't that what fermi does? i didnt read the wiki but i skimmed it,
If this is a 'Sales' chart, why does the chart say Fermi went on sale in 2009? Something smells fishy...
[citation][nom]cy-kill[/nom]I remember reading back in 2008, I think, that nVIDIA was going to start using MIMD for their GPUs, what happened to that plan? As they said, it would bring their GPUs to the next level and leave ATi in the dust until ATi would come out with GPUs based on MIMD.
now i may be wrong, but isn't that what fermi does? i didnt read the wiki but i skimmed it,[/citation]
No, Fermi is still using SIMD.
price/performance? So you can save $100 & wind up paying $100 a month in electricity on that super gaming rig? What will laptop owners say when their laptop on has 30 minutes of battery life even though it uses a 12 Cell battery?
Some of us don't pay for electricity
You're all talking about gaming performance. They are talking about parallel performance.
CUDA kills ATI Stream... so it looks like this is what they will focus on heavily.
The 450 may suck at gaming, but it crunches numbers like a GTX275. That is phenomenal.
Though it would be nice if Nvidia increased memory bandwidth while focusing on making the parallel processors better.
What the hell is going to happen in 2013? Did you see that curve up?
dont count on it being that high, think half...
@alidan how can u be so sure that kepler will be better than southern islands? I thing they'll go head t head as it did in 6000 series vs x800 series.
I look forward to Kepler's purported improvements, but I'm not sure I can make myself wait so long.
I can pick up a stock GTX470 at Newegg.com for just under $300 after MIR (http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Submit=view). This is such a temptation to me, but I know there will be awesome deals starting Black Friday and into the Xmas holidays.
Decisions, decisions.
I'd like to see AMD's current performance per WATT rating compared to NVidia's road map.
Does this mean nVidia gets that people don't like how hot the current line-up runs? It WOULD be nice to have awesome performance that doesn't require a fan that sounds like a jet engine taking off.
Ahhhh!Gla I'm waiting for 2011.This sounds really good.