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Adobe Responds to Apple, is Fine With Breakup

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Adobe says that it is totally over Apple and is ready to move on.

Yesterday, Steve Jobs made it painfully clear what Apple's stance was towards Adobe and Flash – not going to happen for iPhone OS devices.

Adobe quickly responded in its blog section, essentially saying that they won't bother sticking around if they're not wanted. Kevin Lynch, CTO of Adobe, wrote in a post titled "Moving Forward" that the company will be shifting "to all the other major participants in the mobile ecosystem, including Google, RIM, Palm (soon to be HP), Microsoft, Nokia and others." Basically, no Apple.

This morning Apple posted some thoughts about Flash on their web site. The primary issue at hand is that Apple is choosing to block Adobe's widely used runtimes as well as a variety of technologies from other
providers.

Clearly, a lot of people are passionate about both Apple and Adobe and our technologies. We feel confident that were Apple and Adobe to work together as we are with a number of other partners, we could provide a terrific experience with Flash on the iPhone, iPad and iPod touch.

However, as we posted last week, given the legal terms Apple has imposed on developers, we have already decided to shift our focus away from Apple's iPhone and iPad devices for both Flash Player and AIR. We are working to bring Flash Player and AIR to all the other major participants in the mobile ecosystem, including Google, RIM, Palm (soon to be HP), Microsoft, Nokia and others.

We look forward to delivering Flash Player 10.1 for Android smartphones as a public preview at Google I/O in May, and then a general release in June. From that point on, an ever increasing number and variety of powerful, Flash-enabled devices will be arriving which we hope will provide a great landscape of choice.

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    Nakal , May 3, 2010 2:56 PM
    I am waiting for Adobe to pull their entire CS suite from Apple. Now that would be funny :p 
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    Caffeinecarl , May 3, 2010 2:49 PM
    Great... make yourself incompatible with something so universal that every browser should just come with it installed!

    Way to back yourself into a corner, Apple!
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    itadakimasu , May 3, 2010 2:53 PM
    *sigh*

    Does Steve not realize that flash support is probably the biggest downfall of the iphone?

    I do enough w\ my iphone but i'd use it alot more if I had flash.
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    Caffeinecarl , May 3, 2010 2:49 PM
    Great... make yourself incompatible with something so universal that every browser should just come with it installed!

    Way to back yourself into a corner, Apple!
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    itadakimasu , May 3, 2010 2:53 PM
    *sigh*

    Does Steve not realize that flash support is probably the biggest downfall of the iphone?

    I do enough w\ my iphone but i'd use it alot more if I had flash.
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    MrHectorEric , May 3, 2010 2:53 PM
    I'm looking forward to flash on my Droid. Even though Adobe wouldn't limit their market, it would be interesting if Adobe discontinued all products for OS X also.
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    Nakal , May 3, 2010 2:56 PM
    I am waiting for Adobe to pull their entire CS suite from Apple. Now that would be funny :p 
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    prince_david , May 3, 2010 3:00 PM
    Amazing, in the past weren't Apple & Adobe close partners? I always heard that Apple were the computers built for artistic programs like Photoshop and such.
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    ajcroteau , May 3, 2010 3:01 PM
    I commend Adobe for at least attempting to make Apples latest products a little better experience for users.

    But that goes to show you how far Steve Jobs has his head shoved up his a$$...
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    Tindytim , May 3, 2010 3:02 PM
    Eh, no huge loss.

    I'm excited for the day that flash dies, mostly because it's hugely inefficient, is reliant of proprietary software, and needs a third party application installed on your system to run. HTML 5 and SVG are the future.

    I'm happy Apple made the decision, however we all know it wasn't well intention. But it still may sway public opinion, so yay.
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    Anonymous , May 3, 2010 3:06 PM
    @ Nakal

    Adode already said they were not going todo this.

    After all the can't afford to cut off 40 % + of their customer base
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    stratplaya , May 3, 2010 3:16 PM
    Adobe should stop making a MAC version of Photoshop. That would get Apple's attention real quick!
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    jacobdrj , May 3, 2010 3:17 PM
    Flash is a battery hog, doesn't support x64, and has been known to be so awful that even a dual core system will be unable to display flash without being choppy as the ocean in a hurricane.

    I wish Flash would either die or become lean and mean, like Silverlight or HTML5... In my experience using both (SL in Netflix, HTML5 in YouTube) both technologies are FAR superior and more well suited to the internet platform.
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    zoemayne , May 3, 2010 3:17 PM
    Apple better show Adobe some respect. Photoshop and many of Adobes other software are greatly responsible for their Mac sales. Putting all this negative press against Adobe is a bad move.
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    jakmove , May 3, 2010 3:26 PM
    I'll believe it when I see it. Flash was supposed to be "released" months ago for the Pre, but it's been pushed back again and again.
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    donovands , May 3, 2010 3:43 PM
    RDS@ NakalAdode already said they were not going todo this.After all the can't afford to cut off 40 % + of their customer base


    Maybe so. It depends on how badly they see themselves threatened by the rift. If Adobe feels threatened enough in other markets they may pull the plug on OSX support. They would lose some business but quickly pick it up again as developers switch to linux or windows based machines for their work. After all, the main difference between an Imac and a regular PC for photoshop is the Imacs excellent monitor. Of course, that wouldn't hurt Mac sales, as the portables don't benefit from the same screen tech as the iMac.
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    fonzy , May 3, 2010 3:44 PM
    I hope people turn away from the Iphone, there are better phones out there ...personally I'm looking forward to the HTC EVO 4G.
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    Ragnar-Kon , May 3, 2010 3:44 PM
    stratplayaAdobe should stop making a MAC version of Photoshop. That would get Apple's attention real quick!

    That will get Apple's attention real quick. However, I think it'll do Adobe more harm since Mac users accounts for just over half of their Photoshop sales. Apple, meanwhile will just continue to charge forward with their iPad, iPhone, iPod and iTunes.

    And while Jobs may be right about Flash (very hard for me to admit I agree with him), and the world may one day move towards HTML5. But the fact remains that we're not there YET. Someday, maybe, but not yet.

    On top of that, what is so bad about Apple working with Adobe to bring down power consumption and help fix their bugs with Flash? And I still fail to see what was so bad about their Flash CS5 iPhone app compiler.
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    hoofhearted , May 3, 2010 3:46 PM
    Flash is crap. It has been the "security leak" as for my wife and kids computers getting "flash" viruses. It is responsible for the most intrusive "wiggly", "take over your screen" advertisements. I will be glad when this product just dies!
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    hoofhearted , May 3, 2010 3:47 PM
    As for the iPhone, I hope to see another competitor take the reigns for a while (At least at the moment my contract with ATT ends :) 
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    kelldore , May 3, 2010 3:52 PM
    As stated earlier by others, I do enjoy my iphone and use it regularly but not providing Flash support realy bites. I think apple is overstepping their bounds with this one and instead of listening to us the consumer they are now deciding what is best for us. After my 2g phone moves on to greener pastures I will most likely be getting a Android instead. Shame, I really enjoyed the innovation that the Iphone brought with it and was holding out for flash support but this is it for me. It may not be the same for everybody but considering most other smartphones run it and utilize it, it would be only logical for apple to follow suit.
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    Godfail , May 3, 2010 4:09 PM
    SimonettiMy thoughts exactly as I was reading the article. Apple owes Adobe big time, because Apples Creative Suite has ALWAYS pushed Apple sales for professionals, since the early days of Adobe Photoshop.As I've said before, Apple is on a shoot-yourself-in-the-foot streak for the past few weeks.

    So Adobe can buy any new technology firm (Macromedia) and slump on the update of their products to work with mobile devices (Adobe cancelled the mobile version of Flash that Macromedia was working on years ago) and x64 browsers - and Apple should just jump on board with anything they do? Not having Flash on the iPhone really shouldn't be a big deal to anyone since it's not a common feature on any smartphone out there, let alone iPhone, but people have been complaining for 3 years. Most of the complainers do not own iPhones and probably never will, they just use it as an arguing point in their anti-Apple crusade. I'm not sure Apple would want to be the beta tester for Flash on the iPhone even if it were available over the past few years. Adobe dropped the ball...Apple hasn't done anything but point that out.

    As far as their compiler goes, I'm not really sure I care as an end user what is used to develop apps. I definitely prefer software designed specifically for the platform it's being used on, though. As an app developer, I still don't care since I don't use their stuff.
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